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[IPL] FC43: Leenock v Sting - Page 9

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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 18 2012 03:24 GMT
#161
Woohoo, go Sting!

Please invite a Terran next week! Would love to see a tvt Bo9. TheBest or Heart vs Sting gogogogo
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
December 18 2012 03:50 GMT
#162
On December 18 2012 12:22 theException wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 11:47 JJH777 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:38 theException wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:31 JJH777 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:29 theException wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:28 JJH777 wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On December 18 2012 11:24 Elite_ wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [lololololololololololololololol] +
On December 18 2012 04:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Go Leenock! 5-2 or better

On December 18 2012 04:59 kyllinghest wrote:
Leenock on a tear, Sting getting destroyed here I fear!

On December 18 2012 05:11 Harvey18 wrote:
I think leenock will destroy sting 5-2 orso

On December 18 2012 05:27 decado90 wrote:
oh god, this is the best T they could find?

5-0, 5-1 Leenock. They're going to have to start recycling players if they can't get anyone from Kespa to play. Tho, MLG would probably be pretty pissed if the next IPL FC was Leenock vs Flash.

On December 18 2012 05:34 TeeTS wrote:
5-0, perhaps getting scarlett into it would make an interesting match, she seems pretty stable in ZvZ.

On December 18 2012 06:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This will not be pretty...

Leenock 5-1

On December 18 2012 06:18 Beavo wrote:
Leenock 5 to 1

On December 18 2012 06:34 Inzan1ty wrote:
Leenock 5-0

The Tyler Durden Slayer shall not be bothered here

On December 18 2012 06:59 BondBlue wrote:
Leenock 5-0 he too stronk!

On December 18 2012 07:12 GumBa wrote:
Hope Sting atleast puts up a fight!

On December 18 2012 07:15 decado90 wrote:
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On December 18 2012 07:58 Emptyness wrote:
On December 18 2012 07:53 paradox719 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet ten dollars than Sting can take at least 2 games off him


Sting can take 1-2 games, but I don't see him taking the series in any way .

Leenock is just a beast .

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On December 18 2012 08:33 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote:
Leenock 5-2. Sting is the average (But still pretty good) Korean terran. Leenock heavily favored ~!

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On December 18 2012 08:47 Laryleprakon wrote:
This is gonna be pretty brutal I think, Leenock 5-0

His series against Grubby was one of the ugliest I've seen in SC2. Same vs Vortix.

This won't be pretty.


Sorry I can't hear anything over my laughter of how completely fucking wrong you all were...


Do you need to be so condescending? I'm pretty sure the majority of TL would have favored Leenock either way after the Infestor nerfs, and he just seemed a little off that day, though Sting played well.


Leenock was definitely favored heavily but you guys were being pretty harsh on Sting trying to downplay his IEM win even though it's impossible for Terran to win tournaments right now.

I don't think you mean right now do you? Terran is doing really good (with the exception of Mvp) after the patch. In fact zerg actually seems to be struggling a bit.


Idk about right now we need more time to see how big the patch really is. I'm talking about since the queen patch as a whole. Taeja, MVP, and Sting are the only Terrans that have won a tournament since the queen patch.

Ah I see. Although I think tournament wins is kind of misleading as Polt, Bomber and Gumiho have all had lots of success in the matchup.

Also would you count WCS Sweden as a major tournament?


It's actually misleading in the opposite direction. If you go by top 4s or top 8s Terran would look even worse than if you go by championships. Terran is a top heavy race outside of GSL. I also don't think it's only TvZ. For WCS Sweden not really but even if you do count it then you just have to add a ton of other tournaments so much that it's still a ridiculously low % that Terran has won.

hmm I would disagree simply from the tournaments I watched

IPL - 2 out of top 4 Terran
GSL5 - 2 out of Top 4 Terran
Dreamhack Winter - Terran finalist
NASL - 3 out of Top 8 Terran

Just recent tournaments off the top of my head. Anyway I guess my point is it isn't even close for it being impossible for Terran to win tournaments recently. Also with the recent Terran dominance we will probably have a Terran GSL 2013 season 1 winner.


There have been like 30-40 tournaments since the queen patch and you chose 4. You also used a different round for each one to make it look like Terran is doing better than they are top 16 for all those tournaments:
IPL: 3 Terran
GSL5 - 6 Terran (did well here but it was guaranteed since they had so many in the ro32)
Dreamhack - 2 Terran
NASL - 5 Terran (another pretty decent one)

So still not that bad but lets look at some recent tournaments you conveniently left out
IEM Singapore - 3 Terrans in the entire tournament and 1 in top 8 (who is Sting of course and he ends up winning but very low rep overall)
WCS World - 0 Terrans in top 8
WCG - 2 Terrans in top 8 who both lose 0-2 to a Zerg and Protoss
Blizzard Cup - 1 Terran in tournament who got eliminated 0-4 in series and 1-8 in games.
MLG Fall - 4 Terran top 8 (good tournament for Terran but still ended in ZvZ finals)

Currently running you have the MLG toc which has a PvP finals despite having Flash and MKP in it. You have Iron Squid where only 2 Terrans have got out of groups (and they both got 2nd) so far and there is only 1 group left which only has 1 terran.

If you go back further it just gets worse as well with tournaments like WCS Asia and WCS Korea having 0 Terrans in top 10 of both and some Z/P dominated MLGs. The MLG Taeja won he was the only Terran in top 8.
Regardless even if they do place well if they never win then it just means that Terrans can't beat the tip top players of the other races they can just beat the mediocre ones. If it wasn't nearly impossible for Terran to win tournaments they would be winning more often. I also doubt they'll win the next GSL. Yes they have a lot of Terrans in it but they had 14 of them in this season and they didn't end up winning.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 18 2012 04:11 GMT
#163
rofl all the people making predictions on the first page and shitting on Sting got owned pretty good! Awesome! =D

Great job by Sting, definitely going to check out some of these vods.
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
December 18 2012 04:31 GMT
#164
Way to go Sting! Glad to see that Leenock's reign of terror only lasted for a single week. I'm still glad he was able to take out Hyun though.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
December 18 2012 04:38 GMT
#165
Well done by Sting.
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
December 18 2012 05:57 GMT
#166
Awesome. Too bad I missed these matches.
But now I really want some kind of WW/NSH merger so that NSH can avoid slipping into oblivion even more.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 18 2012 07:50 GMT
#167
On December 18 2012 06:44 TheBB wrote:
Yeah.

Leenock vs. Sting

Leenock wins (97.60%):
      5-0: 30.77%
      5-1: 32.31%
      5-2: 20.36%
      5-3: 9.97%
      5-4: 4.19%

Sting wins (2.40%):
      5-0: 0.04%
      5-1: 0.16%
      5-2: 0.38%
      5-3: 0.70%
      5-4: 1.11%

Most likely winner: Leenock (97.60%)
Median outcome: Leenock 5-1 Sting

[image loading]

details, data source, code

Great. Now I look the fool.
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Mia
Profile Joined November 2012
75 Posts
December 18 2012 08:10 GMT
#168
To all ppl who sayed sting was going to be destroyed, HA!

On srs note, i have been watching sting stream recently and his mechanics are really good, micro/multitask/macro. Once his game knowledge catches up to his mechanics, he will be beast.
"Terran, who is missing in action" - me
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
December 18 2012 08:16 GMT
#169
On December 18 2012 16:50 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 06:44 TheBB wrote:
Yeah.

Leenock vs. Sting

Leenock wins (97.60%):
      5-0: 30.77%
      5-1: 32.31%
      5-2: 20.36%
      5-3: 9.97%
      5-4: 4.19%

Sting wins (2.40%):
      5-0: 0.04%
      5-1: 0.16%
      5-2: 0.38%
      5-3: 0.70%
      5-4: 1.11%

Most likely winner: Leenock (97.60%)
Median outcome: Leenock 5-1 Sting

[image loading]

details, data source, code

Great. Now I look the fool.


At least it was 5-4 =P
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
December 18 2012 08:20 GMT
#170
On December 18 2012 16:50 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 06:44 TheBB wrote:
Yeah.

Leenock vs. Sting

Leenock wins (97.60%):
      5-0: 30.77%
      5-1: 32.31%
      5-2: 20.36%
      5-3: 9.97%
      5-4: 4.19%

Sting wins (2.40%):
      5-0: 0.04%
      5-1: 0.16%
      5-2: 0.38%
      5-3: 0.70%
      5-4: 1.11%

Most likely winner: Leenock (97.60%)
Median outcome: Leenock 5-1 Sting

[image loading]

details, data source, code

Great. Now I look the fool.


You've been trolled.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 18 2012 08:24 GMT
#171
On December 18 2012 10:28 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 10:27 Mask DeMasque wrote:
On December 18 2012 10:23 Pandain wrote:
I don't know why but I always cheer for Sting because I love watching a player who literally always cheeses and gets far.

It's like Gaulzi getting to championship bracket through cannon rushes. It's just hilarious to watch and makes awesome intense games.

You should check out Heart! If you haven't already lol


No I hate heart.
Sting is at least creative with his cheeses, but Heart usually just does a 1-1-1 or something already done.

Also Sting can play macro games, and he's pretty good at them, he just likes to always cheese/allin.

to be honest you just exactly described heart lol

sad leenock lost
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 18 2012 08:26 GMT
#172
Heart is the BOMB man. He can play macro games too, don't be hating you fool.
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xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:30:30
December 18 2012 08:30 GMT
#173
On December 18 2012 07:19 xmungam wrote:
Sting 100% gonna win

called it!!!!!!

On December 18 2012 16:50 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 06:44 TheBB wrote:
Yeah.

Leenock vs. Sting

Leenock wins (97.60%):
      5-0: 30.77%
      5-1: 32.31%
      5-2: 20.36%
      5-3: 9.97%
      5-4: 4.19%

Sting wins (2.40%):
      5-0: 0.04%
      5-1: 0.16%
      5-2: 0.38%
      5-3: 0.70%
      5-4: 1.11%

Most likely winner: Leenock (97.60%)
Median outcome: Leenock 5-1 Sting

[image loading]

details, data source, code

Great. Now I look the fool.



yeah how does that fell?? LOLOLOL
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
Dr.Hydralisk
Profile Joined December 2012
United States50 Posts
December 18 2012 08:31 GMT
#174
That was unexpected by Leenock. He says 2 hours for $500, not a great payrate, my time better spend on other tournaments.
scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
December 18 2012 10:10 GMT
#175
Oh wow... patchterrans... they are coming :D
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 18 2012 10:19 GMT
#176
On December 18 2012 06:44 TheBB wrote:
Yeah.

Leenock vs. Sting

Leenock wins (97.60%):
      5-0: 30.77%
      5-1: 32.31%
      5-2: 20.36%
      5-3: 9.97%
      5-4: 4.19%

Sting wins (2.40%):
      5-0: 0.04%
      5-1: 0.16%
      5-2: 0.38%
      5-3: 0.70%
      5-4: 1.11%

Most likely winner: Leenock (97.60%)
Median outcome: Leenock 5-1 Sting

[image loading]

details, data source, code


1.11% for Sting, haha
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
December 18 2012 10:39 GMT
#177
TvT next please, rare opportunity.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37041 Posts
December 18 2012 15:36 GMT
#178
On December 18 2012 17:30 xmungam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 07:19 xmungam wrote:
Sting 100% gonna win

called it!!!!!!

Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 16:50 TheBB wrote:
On December 18 2012 06:44 TheBB wrote:
Yeah.

Leenock vs. Sting

Leenock wins (97.60%):
      5-0: 30.77%
      5-1: 32.31%
      5-2: 20.36%
      5-3: 9.97%
      5-4: 4.19%

Sting wins (2.40%):
      5-0: 0.04%
      5-1: 0.16%
      5-2: 0.38%
      5-3: 0.70%
      5-4: 1.11%

Most likely winner: Leenock (97.60%)
Median outcome: Leenock 5-1 Sting

[image loading]

details, data source, code

Great. Now I look the fool.



yeah how does that fell?? LOLOLOL

IDK. You tell me how you fell about that?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
December 18 2012 15:48 GMT
#179
I was the very first person to vote for Sting in the Who Will Win poll, everybody smells except me.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 16:17:38
December 18 2012 16:17 GMT
#180
wow sting came around and won. jeez, congrats to him
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