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On December 18 2012 11:28 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 11:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:On December 18 2012 11:24 Elite_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler [lololololololololololololololol] +On December 18 2012 04:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Go Leenock! 5-2 or better On December 18 2012 04:59 kyllinghest wrote:
Leenock on a tear, Sting getting destroyed here I fear! On December 18 2012 05:11 Harvey18 wrote:
I think leenock will destroy sting 5-2 orso On December 18 2012 05:27 decado90 wrote:
oh god, this is the best T they could find?
5-0, 5-1 Leenock. They're going to have to start recycling players if they can't get anyone from Kespa to play. Tho, MLG would probably be pretty pissed if the next IPL FC was Leenock vs Flash. On December 18 2012 05:34 TeeTS wrote:
5-0, perhaps getting scarlett into it would make an interesting match, she seems pretty stable in ZvZ. On December 18 2012 06:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This will not be pretty...
Leenock 5-1 On December 18 2012 06:18 Beavo wrote:
Leenock 5 to 1 On December 18 2012 06:34 Inzan1ty wrote:
Leenock 5-0
The Tyler Durden Slayer shall not be bothered here On December 18 2012 06:59 BondBlue wrote:
Leenock 5-0 he too stronk! On December 18 2012 07:12 GumBa wrote:
Hope Sting atleast puts up a fight! On December 18 2012 07:15 decado90 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 07:58 Emptyness wrote:On December 18 2012 07:53 paradox719 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet ten dollars than Sting can take at least 2 games off him Sting can take 1-2 games, but I don't see him taking the series in any way  . Leenock is just a beast  . Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:33 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote:
Leenock 5-2. Sting is the average (But still pretty good) Korean terran. Leenock heavily favored ~! Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:47 Laryleprakon wrote:
This is gonna be pretty brutal I think, Leenock 5-0 His series against Grubby was one of the ugliest I've seen in SC2. Same vs Vortix. This won't be pretty. Sorry I can't hear anything over my laughter of how completely fucking wrong you all were... Do you need to be so condescending? I'm pretty sure the majority of TL would have favored Leenock either way after the Infestor nerfs, and he just seemed a little off that day, though Sting played well. Leenock was definitely favored heavily but you guys were being pretty harsh on Sting trying to downplay his IEM win even though it's impossible for Terran to win tournaments right now.
I don't think you mean right now do you? Terran is doing really good (with the exception of Mvp) after the patch. In fact zerg actually seems to be struggling a bit.
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Tightrope Terran does it again. If the series is tied and it all comes down to one game, you're going to lose to Sting.
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On December 18 2012 11:28 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 11:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:On December 18 2012 11:24 Elite_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler [lololololololololololololololol] +On December 18 2012 04:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Go Leenock! 5-2 or better On December 18 2012 04:59 kyllinghest wrote:
Leenock on a tear, Sting getting destroyed here I fear! On December 18 2012 05:11 Harvey18 wrote:
I think leenock will destroy sting 5-2 orso On December 18 2012 05:27 decado90 wrote:
oh god, this is the best T they could find?
5-0, 5-1 Leenock. They're going to have to start recycling players if they can't get anyone from Kespa to play. Tho, MLG would probably be pretty pissed if the next IPL FC was Leenock vs Flash. On December 18 2012 05:34 TeeTS wrote:
5-0, perhaps getting scarlett into it would make an interesting match, she seems pretty stable in ZvZ. On December 18 2012 06:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This will not be pretty...
Leenock 5-1 On December 18 2012 06:18 Beavo wrote:
Leenock 5 to 1 On December 18 2012 06:34 Inzan1ty wrote:
Leenock 5-0
The Tyler Durden Slayer shall not be bothered here On December 18 2012 06:59 BondBlue wrote:
Leenock 5-0 he too stronk! On December 18 2012 07:12 GumBa wrote:
Hope Sting atleast puts up a fight! On December 18 2012 07:15 decado90 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 07:58 Emptyness wrote:On December 18 2012 07:53 paradox719 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet ten dollars than Sting can take at least 2 games off him Sting can take 1-2 games, but I don't see him taking the series in any way . Leenock is just a beast . Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:33 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote:
Leenock 5-2. Sting is the average (But still pretty good) Korean terran. Leenock heavily favored ~! Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:47 Laryleprakon wrote:
This is gonna be pretty brutal I think, Leenock 5-0 His series against Grubby was one of the ugliest I've seen in SC2. Same vs Vortix. This won't be pretty. Sorry I can't hear anything over my laughter of how completely fucking wrong you all were... Do you need to be so condescending? I'm pretty sure the majority of TL would have favored Leenock either way after the Infestor nerfs, and he just seemed a little off that day, though Sting played well. Leenock was definitely favored heavily but you guys were being pretty harsh on Sting trying to downplay his IEM win even though it's impossible for Terran to win tournaments right now.
This is going to be kicking a dead horse, but I feel I have to mention it again. Lets compare the two players: Leenock, the IPL5 champion, with arguably the greatest line-up outside of GSL, and the player who just took first in his Blizzard Cup group. On the other hand, Sting, who went 3-2 in a tournament with almost all foreigners. Not downplaying Sting, he is an incredibly talented player, but favoring him over Leenock was absurd at the time because his results simply aren't as impressive as Leenock's.
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I'm happily stunned. Well played Sting, congratz !!!
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Btw, really well done by sting! Beating leenock in a bo9 while he is at his best, that's a worthy achievement!
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On December 18 2012 11:29 theException wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 11:28 JJH777 wrote:On December 18 2012 11:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:On December 18 2012 11:24 Elite_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler [lololololololololololololololol] +On December 18 2012 04:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Go Leenock! 5-2 or better On December 18 2012 04:59 kyllinghest wrote:
Leenock on a tear, Sting getting destroyed here I fear! On December 18 2012 05:11 Harvey18 wrote:
I think leenock will destroy sting 5-2 orso On December 18 2012 05:27 decado90 wrote:
oh god, this is the best T they could find?
5-0, 5-1 Leenock. They're going to have to start recycling players if they can't get anyone from Kespa to play. Tho, MLG would probably be pretty pissed if the next IPL FC was Leenock vs Flash. On December 18 2012 05:34 TeeTS wrote:
5-0, perhaps getting scarlett into it would make an interesting match, she seems pretty stable in ZvZ. On December 18 2012 06:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This will not be pretty...
Leenock 5-1 On December 18 2012 06:18 Beavo wrote:
Leenock 5 to 1 On December 18 2012 06:34 Inzan1ty wrote:
Leenock 5-0
The Tyler Durden Slayer shall not be bothered here On December 18 2012 06:59 BondBlue wrote:
Leenock 5-0 he too stronk! On December 18 2012 07:12 GumBa wrote:
Hope Sting atleast puts up a fight! On December 18 2012 07:15 decado90 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 07:58 Emptyness wrote:On December 18 2012 07:53 paradox719 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet ten dollars than Sting can take at least 2 games off him Sting can take 1-2 games, but I don't see him taking the series in any way . Leenock is just a beast . Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:33 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote:
Leenock 5-2. Sting is the average (But still pretty good) Korean terran. Leenock heavily favored ~! Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:47 Laryleprakon wrote:
This is gonna be pretty brutal I think, Leenock 5-0 His series against Grubby was one of the ugliest I've seen in SC2. Same vs Vortix. This won't be pretty. Sorry I can't hear anything over my laughter of how completely fucking wrong you all were... Do you need to be so condescending? I'm pretty sure the majority of TL would have favored Leenock either way after the Infestor nerfs, and he just seemed a little off that day, though Sting played well. Leenock was definitely favored heavily but you guys were being pretty harsh on Sting trying to downplay his IEM win even though it's impossible for Terran to win tournaments right now. I don't think you mean right now do you? Terran is doing really good (with the exception of Mvp) after the patch. In fact zerg actually seems to be struggling a bit.
Idk about right now we need more time to see how big the patch really is. I'm talking about since the queen patch as a whole. Taeja, MVP, and Sting are the only Terrans that have won a tournament since the queen patch.
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I love you Sting even if you killed Grubby I could never hate someone as cute as you.
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I feel like the Patch really does have an impact, lets see what the future holds, but Terran might be just days away from its comeback
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On December 18 2012 11:31 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 11:29 theException wrote:On December 18 2012 11:28 JJH777 wrote:On December 18 2012 11:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:On December 18 2012 11:24 Elite_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler [lololololololololololololololol] +On December 18 2012 04:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Go Leenock! 5-2 or better On December 18 2012 04:59 kyllinghest wrote:
Leenock on a tear, Sting getting destroyed here I fear! On December 18 2012 05:11 Harvey18 wrote:
I think leenock will destroy sting 5-2 orso On December 18 2012 05:27 decado90 wrote:
oh god, this is the best T they could find?
5-0, 5-1 Leenock. They're going to have to start recycling players if they can't get anyone from Kespa to play. Tho, MLG would probably be pretty pissed if the next IPL FC was Leenock vs Flash. On December 18 2012 05:34 TeeTS wrote:
5-0, perhaps getting scarlett into it would make an interesting match, she seems pretty stable in ZvZ. On December 18 2012 06:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This will not be pretty...
Leenock 5-1 On December 18 2012 06:18 Beavo wrote:
Leenock 5 to 1 On December 18 2012 06:34 Inzan1ty wrote:
Leenock 5-0
The Tyler Durden Slayer shall not be bothered here On December 18 2012 06:59 BondBlue wrote:
Leenock 5-0 he too stronk! On December 18 2012 07:12 GumBa wrote:
Hope Sting atleast puts up a fight! On December 18 2012 07:15 decado90 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 07:58 Emptyness wrote:On December 18 2012 07:53 paradox719 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet ten dollars than Sting can take at least 2 games off him Sting can take 1-2 games, but I don't see him taking the series in any way . Leenock is just a beast . Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:33 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote:
Leenock 5-2. Sting is the average (But still pretty good) Korean terran. Leenock heavily favored ~! Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:47 Laryleprakon wrote:
This is gonna be pretty brutal I think, Leenock 5-0 His series against Grubby was one of the ugliest I've seen in SC2. Same vs Vortix. This won't be pretty. Sorry I can't hear anything over my laughter of how completely fucking wrong you all were... Do you need to be so condescending? I'm pretty sure the majority of TL would have favored Leenock either way after the Infestor nerfs, and he just seemed a little off that day, though Sting played well. Leenock was definitely favored heavily but you guys were being pretty harsh on Sting trying to downplay his IEM win even though it's impossible for Terran to win tournaments right now. I don't think you mean right now do you? Terran is doing really good (with the exception of Mvp) after the patch. In fact zerg actually seems to be struggling a bit. Idk about right now we need more time to see how big the patch really is. I'm talking about since the queen patch as a whole. Taeja, MVP, and Sting are the only Terrans that have won a tournament since the queen patch.
Ah I see. Although I think tournament wins is kind of misleading as Polt, Bomber and Gumiho have all had lots of success in the matchup.
Also would you count WCS Sweden as a major tournament?
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Now that I'm done laughing, please feel free to congratulate Sting on a job well done at his newly created twitter. 
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When did Leenock complain about his ZvT? Or did he even? In the GSL interview he says he thinks ZvT is about the same after the patch.
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On December 18 2012 11:38 theException wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 11:31 JJH777 wrote:On December 18 2012 11:29 theException wrote:On December 18 2012 11:28 JJH777 wrote:On December 18 2012 11:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:On December 18 2012 11:24 Elite_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler [lololololololololololololololol] +On December 18 2012 04:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Go Leenock! 5-2 or better On December 18 2012 04:59 kyllinghest wrote:
Leenock on a tear, Sting getting destroyed here I fear! On December 18 2012 05:11 Harvey18 wrote:
I think leenock will destroy sting 5-2 orso On December 18 2012 05:27 decado90 wrote:
oh god, this is the best T they could find?
5-0, 5-1 Leenock. They're going to have to start recycling players if they can't get anyone from Kespa to play. Tho, MLG would probably be pretty pissed if the next IPL FC was Leenock vs Flash. On December 18 2012 05:34 TeeTS wrote:
5-0, perhaps getting scarlett into it would make an interesting match, she seems pretty stable in ZvZ. On December 18 2012 06:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This will not be pretty...
Leenock 5-1 On December 18 2012 06:18 Beavo wrote:
Leenock 5 to 1 On December 18 2012 06:34 Inzan1ty wrote:
Leenock 5-0
The Tyler Durden Slayer shall not be bothered here On December 18 2012 06:59 BondBlue wrote:
Leenock 5-0 he too stronk! On December 18 2012 07:12 GumBa wrote:
Hope Sting atleast puts up a fight! On December 18 2012 07:15 decado90 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 07:58 Emptyness wrote:On December 18 2012 07:53 paradox719 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet ten dollars than Sting can take at least 2 games off him Sting can take 1-2 games, but I don't see him taking the series in any way . Leenock is just a beast . Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:33 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote:
Leenock 5-2. Sting is the average (But still pretty good) Korean terran. Leenock heavily favored ~! Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:47 Laryleprakon wrote:
This is gonna be pretty brutal I think, Leenock 5-0 His series against Grubby was one of the ugliest I've seen in SC2. Same vs Vortix. This won't be pretty. Sorry I can't hear anything over my laughter of how completely fucking wrong you all were... Do you need to be so condescending? I'm pretty sure the majority of TL would have favored Leenock either way after the Infestor nerfs, and he just seemed a little off that day, though Sting played well. Leenock was definitely favored heavily but you guys were being pretty harsh on Sting trying to downplay his IEM win even though it's impossible for Terran to win tournaments right now. I don't think you mean right now do you? Terran is doing really good (with the exception of Mvp) after the patch. In fact zerg actually seems to be struggling a bit. Idk about right now we need more time to see how big the patch really is. I'm talking about since the queen patch as a whole. Taeja, MVP, and Sting are the only Terrans that have won a tournament since the queen patch. Ah I see. Although I think tournament wins is kind of misleading as Polt, Bomber and Gumiho have all had lots of success in the matchup. Also would you count WCS Sweden as a major tournament?
It's actually misleading in the opposite direction. If you go by top 4s or top 8s Terran would look even worse than if you go by championships. Terran is a top heavy race outside of GSL. I also don't think it's only TvZ. For WCS Sweden not really but even if you do count it then you just have to add a ton of other tournaments so much that it's still a ridiculously low % that Terran has won.
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Went back to studying at 4-2
wat.
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On December 18 2012 11:31 Nick_54 wrote:
I'm happily stunned. Well played Sting, congratz !!!
And I'm happily stung.
Gratz Sting!
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On December 18 2012 11:49 Steel wrote:
Went back to studying at 4-2
wat.
This is my exact same reaction. Well done Sting! Hope you can maintain your form into 2013
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very well played by sting, even with the abundance of 2rax openers. i thought leenock would start a new reign surely, but he was dethroned immediately! good luck defending, sting
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On December 18 2012 04:38 Bam Lee wrote:
5-4 sting just cause he always wins close lol
called it. Good job sting!
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On December 18 2012 12:07 Srontgorrth wrote:
very well played by sting, even with the abundance of 2rax openers. i thought leenock would start a new reign surely, but he was dethroned immediately! good luck defending, sting
Loved this series because of the early action. People need to stop assuming that macro games are always good. 15 no rush into hiveball steamroll games are generally no fun.
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On December 18 2012 12:10 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 12:07 Srontgorrth wrote:
very well played by sting, even with the abundance of 2rax openers. i thought leenock would start a new reign surely, but he was dethroned immediately! good luck defending, sting Loved this series because of the early action. People need to stop assuming that macro games are always good. 15 no rush into hiveball steamroll games are generally no fun.
They were fun but I wish Sting varied his aggression a little more so we could see different units and strats. Overall I enjoyed watching it though
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On December 18 2012 11:47 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 11:38 theException wrote:On December 18 2012 11:31 JJH777 wrote:On December 18 2012 11:29 theException wrote:On December 18 2012 11:28 JJH777 wrote:On December 18 2012 11:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:On December 18 2012 11:24 Elite_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler [lololololololololololololololol] +On December 18 2012 04:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Go Leenock! 5-2 or better On December 18 2012 04:59 kyllinghest wrote:
Leenock on a tear, Sting getting destroyed here I fear! On December 18 2012 05:11 Harvey18 wrote:
I think leenock will destroy sting 5-2 orso On December 18 2012 05:27 decado90 wrote:
oh god, this is the best T they could find?
5-0, 5-1 Leenock. They're going to have to start recycling players if they can't get anyone from Kespa to play. Tho, MLG would probably be pretty pissed if the next IPL FC was Leenock vs Flash. On December 18 2012 05:34 TeeTS wrote:
5-0, perhaps getting scarlett into it would make an interesting match, she seems pretty stable in ZvZ. On December 18 2012 06:09 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This will not be pretty...
Leenock 5-1 On December 18 2012 06:18 Beavo wrote:
Leenock 5 to 1 On December 18 2012 06:34 Inzan1ty wrote:
Leenock 5-0
The Tyler Durden Slayer shall not be bothered here On December 18 2012 06:59 BondBlue wrote:
Leenock 5-0 he too stronk! On December 18 2012 07:12 GumBa wrote:
Hope Sting atleast puts up a fight! On December 18 2012 07:15 decado90 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 07:58 Emptyness wrote:On December 18 2012 07:53 paradox719 wrote:
I'd be willing to bet ten dollars than Sting can take at least 2 games off him Sting can take 1-2 games, but I don't see him taking the series in any way . Leenock is just a beast . Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:33 ClairvoyanceSC2 wrote:
Leenock 5-2. Sting is the average (But still pretty good) Korean terran. Leenock heavily favored ~! Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 08:47 Laryleprakon wrote:
This is gonna be pretty brutal I think, Leenock 5-0 His series against Grubby was one of the ugliest I've seen in SC2. Same vs Vortix. This won't be pretty. Sorry I can't hear anything over my laughter of how completely fucking wrong you all were... Do you need to be so condescending? I'm pretty sure the majority of TL would have favored Leenock either way after the Infestor nerfs, and he just seemed a little off that day, though Sting played well. Leenock was definitely favored heavily but you guys were being pretty harsh on Sting trying to downplay his IEM win even though it's impossible for Terran to win tournaments right now. I don't think you mean right now do you? Terran is doing really good (with the exception of Mvp) after the patch. In fact zerg actually seems to be struggling a bit. Idk about right now we need more time to see how big the patch really is. I'm talking about since the queen patch as a whole. Taeja, MVP, and Sting are the only Terrans that have won a tournament since the queen patch. Ah I see. Although I think tournament wins is kind of misleading as Polt, Bomber and Gumiho have all had lots of success in the matchup. Also would you count WCS Sweden as a major tournament? It's actually misleading in the opposite direction. If you go by top 4s or top 8s Terran would look even worse than if you go by championships. Terran is a top heavy race outside of GSL. I also don't think it's only TvZ. For WCS Sweden not really but even if you do count it then you just have to add a ton of other tournaments so much that it's still a ridiculously low % that Terran has won.
hmm I would disagree simply from the tournaments I watched
IPL - 2 out of top 4 Terran
GSL5 - 2 out of Top 4 Terran
Dreamhack Winter - Terran finalist
NASL - 3 out of Top 8 Terran
Just recent tournaments off the top of my head. Anyway I guess my point is it isn't even close for it being impossible for Terran to win tournaments recently. Also with the recent Terran dominance we will probably have a Terran GSL 2013 season 1 winner.
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