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whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2321
hero got nerves issue , dont send him
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2322
taeja is the only option.
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2323
Sending HerO out for the ace match would make him cracked under pressure for sure = =
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
zephiK
Profile Joined March 2012
United States372 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2324
I hope it's Taeja.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2325
He did won, but I don't think making a manner nexus is a good idea. I mean they got 0-4ed and they still haven't won this one yet.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Resentable
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada132 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2326
Have Stork and Effort in my anti team

Today was a good day
"For you are life, rarer than a quark and unpredictable beyond the dreams of Heisenberg. Come, dry your eyes. And let's go home."
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2327
Taeja, no question really
Jaedong & Faker
Nadril
Profile Joined March 2012
68 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2328
On December 16 2012 18:06 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:05 blacksheepwall wrote:
JYP so BM for a guy who hasn't had much success lately.

But what can I say, I love shit like that.

Kinda sad to see TL associated with it though. Not what TL stands for. Meh.


But everyone was all about the manner mules by taeja...
Vekalisk
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia137 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2329
On December 16 2012 18:06 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:05 blacksheepwall wrote:
JYP so BM for a guy who hasn't had much success lately.

But what can I say, I love shit like that.

Kinda sad to see TL associated with it though. Not what TL stands for. Meh.


Oh come on, it's a bit of fun. Taeja manner muled as well.
Twitter: @Vekalisk
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2330
anything but jaedong ace is herecy
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2331
On December 16 2012 18:04 Vanadium wrote:
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On December 16 2012 17:59 Exarl25 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:56 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:54 Exarl25 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:51 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:48 andaylin wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:46 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:44 andaylin wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:42 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[quote]

especially when the metagame is thrown out of the window.


No, strategic depth is developed when existing strategies are played out in relation to new ones. This generates the layers of strategy that constitutes the metagame. When the metagame is non-existent, everything is gimmick, and strategy is shallow. There is no depth.

Lol, this is funny. let's just keep making GSL formula maps and play that all day.


So you're implying that every non-GSL map do not allow the metagame to play out? That is ridiculous, new maps are fine. Not wonky maps though, not for a legitimate competitive game.

Oh please stop with the metagame thing. I don't want to see the same shit every game and it's obvious these new maps are being well received. Watch some games on the map before you say if doesn't produce competitive games.


Sure, if all you're interested in is entertaining games. A competitive RTS is more about entertainment, there is supposed to be a developed strategic skillset involved. That's what keeps it interesting in the long run anyway.


Mindlessly doing the exact same cookie cutter build every single game on every single map is not a developed strategic skillset. Here we see those who prepare for a map, come up with their own strategies, actually adapt and play smart are those who do well.


Playing the metagame is nothing like doing the exact same old cookie cutter build... You have no idea what you're talking about.


These days it is. Sure it's important to have some degree of consistency to allow a metagame to develop. But what we see in SC2 now is not a developing metagame, it's stagnation. Every game plays out the same, every map plays out the same. It's boring as shit. You need to keep things fresh and reward innovation.

Some crazy new maps to shake things up a bit are a very welcome addition and long overdue. The overwhelmingly favorable response should be proof enough of that.


I don't think we ought to conflate his point on the metagame with the fact that the current metagame is stale. These are separate issues. I don't think his point was ever that there should never be new maps, it's that really odd maps can be gimmicky, which is something that COULD happen to Arkanoid. Some clever player might just figure out the map, and then it'll be a never-ending litany of mirror matchups with the same build. This is just as bad of a metagame.


If that happens then you scrap the map. You should constantly be introducing new ones anyway. Often maps can produce incredible games at first until it's flaws are figured out and when that happens you just move on to something else. Daybreak is a prime example of this. Universally loved at first that map should have been retired long ago because these days it produces the most boring PvZ games possible.
AverageAsianDude
Profile Joined December 2012
England91 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2332
puma plz
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2333
On December 16 2012 18:06 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:05 blacksheepwall wrote:
JYP so BM for a guy who hasn't had much success lately.

But what can I say, I love shit like that.

Kinda sad to see TL associated with it though. Not what TL stands for. Meh.

Taeja manner muled. Twice.
Refer to my post.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 16 2012 09:07 GMT
#2334
On December 16 2012 18:06 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:05 blacksheepwall wrote:
JYP so BM for a guy who hasn't had much success lately.

But what can I say, I love shit like that.

Kinda sad to see TL associated with it though. Not what TL stands for. Meh.

Taeja started it
Yhamm is the god of predictions
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 09:08:20
December 16 2012 09:08 GMT
#2335
On December 16 2012 18:07 stuchiu wrote:
Bbyong vs Taeja I'd guess.

Me too.

Or Bbyong vs Jaedong.
Lennient
Profile Joined January 2012
497 Posts
December 16 2012 09:08 GMT
#2336
I think Taeja is a pretty good choice
mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
December 16 2012 09:08 GMT
#2337
On December 16 2012 18:07 Belha wrote:
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On December 16 2012 18:05 Nadril wrote:
"JYP is bad" - half of TL.

Yeah, JYP crushed.

JYP got a blind counter build, that's the main reason he won.

you're not smart
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
December 16 2012 09:08 GMT
#2338
Taeja imo
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 09:08 GMT
#2339
Poll: Ace?

TaeJa (39)
 
70%

Jaedong (11)
 
20%

HerO (5)
 
9%

Other (1)
 
2%

56 total votes

Your vote: Ace?

(Vote): HerO
(Vote): TaeJa
(Vote): Jaedong
(Vote): Other

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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
December 16 2012 09:08 GMT
#2340
On December 16 2012 18:06 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:05 blacksheepwall wrote:
JYP so BM for a guy who hasn't had much success lately.

But what can I say, I love shit like that.

Kinda sad to see TL associated with it though. Not what TL stands for. Meh.

Hydra just danced lings on Hero. It's justified revenge!
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
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