EPT[Code A] RO32 Day 1 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 94
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On December 10 2012 21:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: Code A Ro24 -- Winner gets Code S  Noblesse vs  DongRaeGu BboongBboong vs YoDa GuMiho vs  First/HerO Center vs PartinG Jaedong vs Hack Bbyong vs Polt Mvp vs sOs/Shine Baby vs SymbolDRG, YoDa, GuMiho, Parting, Jaedong, Polt, Mvp, Symbol to advance  | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
On December 10 2012 21:54 nokz88 wrote: TeamLiquid should release an official statement saying "THE ELEPHANT THEORY IS BULLSHIT AND WE ARE SORRY TO HAVE RELEASED IT. To those of you who were offended: WE ARE SORRY WE WERE WRONG. To those of you who still believe in this crap: QUIT BEING A RETARDED MONKEY AND GET OFF THE LR THREADS. WE ARE ASHAMED EVERY TIME THIS SHIT IS BROUGHT UP." That piece of shit article have been the rallying point of every BW elitist ever, although it has been time and time again proved completely wrong. Not just partially wrong, completely and utterly wrong. How are the elephants faring recently? I'm not in touch with SC2 for the last 3-4 months... | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:09 niteReloaded wrote: How are the elephants faring recently? I'm not in touch with SC2 for the last 3-4 months... there's about 2-3 championship contenders. most of the 'good' elephants are low S or high A material. most exBW players are still code B level. | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:09 niteReloaded wrote: How are the elephants faring recently? I'm not in touch with SC2 for the last 3-4 months... Elephants already dominating pretty hard. Here is one ridiculous example: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:12 YourHarry wrote: Elephants already dominating pretty hard. Here is one ridiculous example: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational bad example, a lot of Code A level players could beat up foreigners just as well as most of these guys haha | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8306 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:09 niteReloaded wrote: How are the elephants faring recently? I'm not in touch with SC2 for the last 3-4 months... Mediocre. Certainly not dominating like they were supposed to, but pulling out a few big wins at least. The Elephant hypothesis is indeed pretty much disproven at this point though. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:12 YourHarry wrote: Elephants already dominating pretty hard. Here is one ridiculous example: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational Well you are right at one thing, it is indeed a ridiculous example since its only foreigners vs Kespa players... | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
On December 10 2012 22:12 bittman wrote: Someone who will update OP please. Do remember that's an actual thing, the current OP was warned because of this. Just know what you're signing up for Was his warning removed or ... ? I'm a bit pissed tbh, because he's done it before. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:13 TheDougler wrote: Mediocre. Certainly not dominating like they were supposed to, but pulling out a few big wins at least. The Elephant hypothesis is indeed pretty much disproven at this point though. I think with the proleague transition they'll improve. They won't start dominating or anything but I think we'll see more in code a/s but the elephant theory is gone and was flawed to begin with. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:17 Testuser wrote: Was his warning removed or ... ? I'm a bit pissed tbh, because he's done it before. I can make it since no IM players tomorrow (I think) | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:28 lichter wrote: I can make it since no IM players tomorrow (I think) if you have premium then by all means gogo! thanks mang! | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On December 10 2012 21:26 Cedstick wrote: kafkaesque wrong as fuuuuuuuck haha. Anyway, BaBy has always been a thorn in FlaSh's side. baby's tvt was always so fun to watch. he played so unorthodox. and it worked alot of the time for him. i didnt get to see his games today but yea, im glad he won. | ||
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:28 lichter wrote: I can make it since no IM players tomorrow (I think) Yonghwa, First and ByuL.... | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:12 YourHarry wrote: Elephants already dominating pretty hard. Here is one ridiculous example: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_vs_Proleague_Invitational Ah when all else fails let's pull the online results out as a last desperate attempt to be proven right in a extremely weird and for Kespa favored tournament  OT: Very sad and yet happy about the Losira vs JD match, love that JD won but hate it that Losira lost. Also kinda enjoy seeing Flash being beaten by the guy who was supost be his replacement of sorts in the BW days as elite terran. Ironic. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19297 Posts
OSL champion - Kespa Winner Past 2 GSL's - Kespa player in the final four MvP - Kespa winner WCS - 3 Kespa players qualify into the Ro16, 1 placing in the top 3 MLG Tournament of Champions - + Show Spoiler + 3/3 for Kespa pros Pretty much, since august certain Kespa pros have merged themselves in as equals. It is my belief however that many players from Kespa will not dominate the scene out of proleague because they are focused on their team league rather then taking tournaments for their own glory. As for Baby defeating Flash, like someone mentioned earlier Baby has been considered one of the most gifted terrans and except for maybe a few months where Flash was invincible, could beat him any given day. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:44 BisuDagger wrote: Kespa stats of the top of my head. OSL champion - Kespa Winner Past 2 GSL's - Kespa player in the final four MvP - Kespa winner WCS - 3 Kespa players qualify into the Ro16, 1 placing in the top 3 MLG Tournament of Champions - + Show Spoiler + 3/3 for Kespa pros Pretty much, since august certain Kespa pros have merged themselves in as equals. It is my belief however that many players from Kespa will not dominate the scene out of proleague because they are focused on their team league rather then taking tournaments for their own glory. As for Baby defeating Flash, like someone mentioned earlier Baby has been considered one of the most gifted terrans and except for maybe a few months where Flash was invincible, could beat him any given day. CJ hero and Roro lost in ro32 ( groups ) at BWC, otherwise I think you've got it right. also add soulkey gsl ro8 for good measure I guess. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:09 niteReloaded wrote: How are the elephants faring recently? I'm not in touch with SC2 for the last 3-4 months... Not as good as most people thought. But it is very hard to say how good they are. Now that we have EG-TL in PL we could get a better idea imo since most of the kepsa players stick to the kespa league. But I am convinced that a majority of the best players will be kespa players very soon. For some one who didn't follow bw to understand why we think like this about the players, think about this example: they make a new game and some of the players that couldn't handle the competition switch over. Two years later, the best sc2 players - Rain, Life, Mvp, Bogus, Hyun, Teajja etc - start playing this new game that is being dominated by Incontrol, Destiny and some "patch zerg". What would you think about the situation? From your perspective the "BW elitists" are unreasonable - and you have some results to back that claim up. But what we know about the best current sc2 players amounts to this: For me, personally, MVP is the only player that could somehow stand his ground in BW, so I respect him. But the others too I must say are better than I expected. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On December 10 2012 23:44 BisuDagger wrote: Kespa stats of the top of my head. OSL champion - Kespa Winner Past 2 GSL's - Kespa player in the final four MvP - Kespa winner WCS - 3 Kespa players qualify into the Ro16, 1 placing in the top 3 MLG Tournament of Champions - + Show Spoiler + 3/3 for Kespa pros Pretty much, since august certain Kespa pros have merged themselves in as equals. It is my belief however that many players from Kespa will not dominate the scene out of proleague because they are focused on their team league rather then taking tournaments for their own glory. As for Baby defeating Flash, like someone mentioned earlier Baby has been considered one of the most gifted terrans and except for maybe a few months where Flash was invincible, could beat him any given day. I am not sure I buy the not taking tournaments for your own glory part. Maybe this is true for foreign events since traveling well take a toll on your performance. Of course, we know Kespa players do focus a lot on team leagues. But individual leagues still matter. All of superstars of BW won multiple individual league titles. But I think a great player has enough time for PL, OSL, GSL. | ||
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