• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:54
CEST 14:54
KST 21:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202538Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up4LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up How to leave Master league - bug fix? Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 695 users

[Code A] RO32 Day 1 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 92

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 90 91 92 93 94 98 Next
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 12:38:37
December 10 2012 12:34 GMT
#1821
On December 10 2012 21:32 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 21:30 Taipoka wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:27 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:25 Elroi wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:22 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:21 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:20 kafkaesque wrote:
Elephant who?


both are elephants, that makes no sense.


It does. According to the elephant-theory, the best BW-player has to be the best SC2 player.

You can't read or your trolling. Either way Baby is one of the best BW players of all time so stfu.


Wow, I must have hit a spot, no need to get so angry.


You are just being dumb. Or just a troll. Who knows.


Alright, I clearly have to be an idiot if I don't know the detailed history of a Broodwar progamer.


No. You just have to go right there in the menu, choose forum and read the topic about elephants.
Plain and simple.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
December 10 2012 12:34 GMT
#1822
On December 10 2012 21:32 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 21:30 Taipoka wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:27 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:25 Elroi wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:22 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:21 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:20 kafkaesque wrote:
Elephant who?


both are elephants, that makes no sense.


It does. According to the elephant-theory, the best BW-player has to be the best SC2 player.

You can't read or your trolling. Either way Baby is one of the best BW players of all time so stfu.


Wow, I must have hit a spot, no need to get so angry.


You are just being dumb. Or just a troll. Who knows.


Alright, I clearly have to be an idiot if I don't know the detailed history of a Broodwar progamer.

Well, kinda, yeah. You're wrong, which looks dumb. I think he kinda mad, tho.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
December 10 2012 12:36 GMT
#1823
On December 10 2012 21:27 Battleship789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 21:24 vthree wrote:
And remember, Baby lost to Reality pretty convincingly in PL on the weekend. So a lot of good Kespa TvTers.

Maybe. Baby might be the streakiest player in KeSPA history. When he is on, he wins convincingly against anyone, but when he is off...it isn't pretty.


So is Baby the KESPA version of Bomber, or is Bomber the ESF version of Baby?
"Roach dies to immortal and rockit black guy" - Tierdal.thex
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 12:38:45
December 10 2012 12:38 GMT
#1824
On December 10 2012 21:34 Taipoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 21:32 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:30 Taipoka wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:27 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:25 Elroi wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:22 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:21 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:20 kafkaesque wrote:
Elephant who?


both are elephants, that makes no sense.


It does. According to the elephant-theory, the best BW-player has to be the best SC2 player.

You can't read or your trolling. Either way Baby is one of the best BW players of all time so stfu.


Wow, I must have hit a spot, no need to get so angry.


You are just being dumb. Or just a troll. Who knows.


Alright, I clearly have to be an idiot if I don't know the detailed history of a Broodwar progamer.


No. You just have to go right there in the menu, choose forum and read the topic about elefants.
Plain and simple.


You mean this article ?


Flash and Jaedong, when motivated, have a mindset and work ethic that is unmatched by any other RTS professional. Their ability to focus and practice is not just "way better" than what Mvp is capable of, but orders of magnitudes better. Think the difference between Kobe and "average starter" on an NBA team.

Maybe Leta or Sea or Best or Zero won't come into SC2 and be ultra-successful if they switch. But Jaedong and Flash? They are outliers. They do not conform to the normal rules, and everyone who has followed Brood War knows that if they switch, it's not a question of if they will dominate and win, but when.

The "different game" argument applies to 99.9% of progamers, but not for special players like Jaedong and Flash. The game doesn't matter. Whether it's BW or SC2 or checkers or minesweeper, certain players are so good they will always be at the top.


That one, right ?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 10 2012 12:43 GMT
#1825
oh wow Baby beat Flash

everyone who has Baby on their anti team is crying right now
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 12:45:09
December 10 2012 12:44 GMT
#1826
On December 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
oh wow Baby beat Flash

everyone who has Baby on their anti team is crying right now

what if the same thing that happened to mini happens to baby, though? look fairly good in your first 2 series in code a. take out flash. flounder in the up and downs. fizzle out into code b
a reverse Seed soul steal
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#1827
On December 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
oh wow Baby beat Flash

everyone who has Baby on their anti team is crying right now

Yep, pretty much. My FPL isn't looking too good right now.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 12:49:42
December 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#1828
On December 10 2012 21:38 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 21:34 Taipoka wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:32 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:30 Taipoka wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:27 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:25 Elroi wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:22 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:21 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:20 kafkaesque wrote:
Elephant who?


both are elephants, that makes no sense.


It does. According to the elephant-theory, the best BW-player has to be the best SC2 player.

You can't read or your trolling. Either way Baby is one of the best BW players of all time so stfu.


Wow, I must have hit a spot, no need to get so angry.


You are just being dumb. Or just a troll. Who knows.


Alright, I clearly have to be an idiot if I don't know the detailed history of a Broodwar progamer.


No. You just have to go right there in the menu, choose forum and read the topic about elefants.
Plain and simple.


You mean this article ?

Show nested quote +

Flash and Jaedong, when motivated, have a mindset and work ethic that is unmatched by any other RTS professional. Their ability to focus and practice is not just "way better" than what Mvp is capable of, but orders of magnitudes better. Think the difference between Kobe and "average starter" on an NBA team.

Maybe Leta or Sea or Best or Zero won't come into SC2 and be ultra-successful if they switch. But Jaedong and Flash? They are outliers. They do not conform to the normal rules, and everyone who has followed Brood War knows that if they switch, it's not a question of if they will dominate and win, but when.

The "different game" argument applies to 99.9% of progamers, but not for special players like Jaedong and Flash. The game doesn't matter. Whether it's BW or SC2 or checkers or minesweeper, certain players are so good they will always be at the top.


That one, right ?


nvm
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
December 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#1829
Just looked at results from today. Wow lol

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 10 2012 12:49 GMT
#1830
On December 10 2012 21:47 Taipoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 21:38 Godwrath wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:34 Taipoka wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:32 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:30 Taipoka wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:27 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:25 Elroi wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:22 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:21 KalWarkov wrote:
On December 10 2012 21:20 kafkaesque wrote:
Elephant who?


both are elephants, that makes no sense.


It does. According to the elephant-theory, the best BW-player has to be the best SC2 player.

You can't read or your trolling. Either way Baby is one of the best BW players of all time so stfu.


Wow, I must have hit a spot, no need to get so angry.


You are just being dumb. Or just a troll. Who knows.


Alright, I clearly have to be an idiot if I don't know the detailed history of a Broodwar progamer.


No. You just have to go right there in the menu, choose forum and read the topic about elefants.
Plain and simple.


You mean this article ?


Flash and Jaedong, when motivated, have a mindset and work ethic that is unmatched by any other RTS professional. Their ability to focus and practice is not just "way better" than what Mvp is capable of, but orders of magnitudes better. Think the difference between Kobe and "average starter" on an NBA team.

Maybe Leta or Sea or Best or Zero won't come into SC2 and be ultra-successful if they switch. But Jaedong and Flash? They are outliers. They do not conform to the normal rules, and everyone who has followed Brood War knows that if they switch, it's not a question of if they will dominate and win, but when.

The "different game" argument applies to 99.9% of progamers, but not for special players like Jaedong and Flash. The game doesn't matter. Whether it's BW or SC2 or checkers or minesweeper, certain players are so good they will always be at the top.


That one, right ?


try this in his full extent
Elefant in the room

My favorite part is
#8 Alicia, who is going to be big by the way
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-10 12:55:27
December 10 2012 12:54 GMT
#1831
TeamLiquid should release an official statement saying

"THE ELEPHANT THEORY IS BULLSHIT AND WE ARE SORRY TO HAVE RELEASED IT.
To those of you who were offended: WE ARE SORRY WE WERE WRONG.
To those of you who still believe in this crap: QUIT BEING A RETARDED MONKEY AND GET OFF THE LR THREADS. WE ARE ASHAMED EVERY TIME THIS SHIT IS BROUGHT UP."

That piece of shit article have been the rallying point of every BW elitist ever, although it has been time and time again proved completely wrong. Not just partially wrong, completely and utterly wrong.
in a state of trance
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
December 10 2012 13:00 GMT
#1832
On December 10 2012 21:54 nokz88 wrote:
TeamLiquid should release an official statement saying

"THE ELEPHANT THEORY IS BULLSHIT AND WE ARE SORRY TO HAVE RELEASED IT.
To those of you who were offended: WE ARE SORRY WE WERE WRONG.
To those of you who still believe in this crap: QUIT BEING A RETARDED MONKEY AND GET OFF THE LR THREADS. WE ARE ASHAMED EVERY TIME THIS SHIT IS BROUGHT UP."

That piece of shit article have been the rallying point of every BW elitist ever, although it has been time and time again proved completely wrong. Not just partially wrong, completely and utterly wrong.


Lol. How offended can you get? Are you one of the eSF players who got put down? Need a beer? Or maybe better things to rage about than an article about a game. Come here and I'll give you a hug.

Anyway, am pleased with the results. Haven't been able to watch the games so much though.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 10 2012 13:02 GMT
#1833
On December 10 2012 22:00 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 21:54 nokz88 wrote:
TeamLiquid should release an official statement saying

"THE ELEPHANT THEORY IS BULLSHIT AND WE ARE SORRY TO HAVE RELEASED IT.
To those of you who were offended: WE ARE SORRY WE WERE WRONG.
To those of you who still believe in this crap: QUIT BEING A RETARDED MONKEY AND GET OFF THE LR THREADS. WE ARE ASHAMED EVERY TIME THIS SHIT IS BROUGHT UP."

That piece of shit article have been the rallying point of every BW elitist ever, although it has been time and time again proved completely wrong. Not just partially wrong, completely and utterly wrong.


Lol. How offended can you get? Are you one of the eSF players who got put down? Need a beer? Or maybe better things to rage about than an article about a game. Come here and I'll give you a hug.

Anyway, am pleased with the results. Haven't been able to watch the games so much though.

to be fair the article does raise a lot of ugly discussion, haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Harvey18
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands165 Posts
December 10 2012 13:04 GMT
#1834
Uhm, since I can't find anyone talking about the flash-baby game, is there a winner yet? and if so who won?
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 10 2012 13:04 GMT
#1835
On December 10 2012 22:00 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 21:54 nokz88 wrote:
TeamLiquid should release an official statement saying

"THE ELEPHANT THEORY IS BULLSHIT AND WE ARE SORRY TO HAVE RELEASED IT.
To those of you who were offended: WE ARE SORRY WE WERE WRONG.
To those of you who still believe in this crap: QUIT BEING A RETARDED MONKEY AND GET OFF THE LR THREADS. WE ARE ASHAMED EVERY TIME THIS SHIT IS BROUGHT UP."

That piece of shit article have been the rallying point of every BW elitist ever, although it has been time and time again proved completely wrong. Not just partially wrong, completely and utterly wrong.


Lol. How offended can you get? Are you one of the eSF players who got put down? Need a beer? Or maybe better things to rage about than an article about a game. Come here and I'll give you a hug.

Anyway, am pleased with the results. Haven't been able to watch the games so much though.


Starting an article with "The competition thus far has been a farce" is often not a good way to ensure a reasoned and rational response.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 10 2012 13:05 GMT
#1836
On December 10 2012 22:04 Harvey18 wrote:
Uhm, since I can't find anyone talking about the flash-baby game, is there a winner yet? and if so who won?

OP isnt being updated again for some reason but Baby won 2-1
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
December 10 2012 13:05 GMT
#1837
On December 10 2012 22:04 Harvey18 wrote:
Uhm, since I can't find anyone talking about the flash-baby game, is there a winner yet? and if so who won?


BaBy won.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Harvey18
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands165 Posts
December 10 2012 13:06 GMT
#1838
On December 10 2012 22:05 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 22:04 Harvey18 wrote:
Uhm, since I can't find anyone talking about the flash-baby game, is there a winner yet? and if so who won?


BaBy won.


thank you!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 10 2012 13:07 GMT
#1839
anyone wanna make LR thread for tomorrow?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
December 10 2012 13:09 GMT
#1840
On December 10 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote:
oh wow Baby beat Flash

everyone who has Baby on their anti team is crying right now

Who would ever do that? BaBy is my captain.
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
Prev 1 90 91 92 93 94 98 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
Mondays #46
WardiTV662
CranKy Ducklings130
Rex129
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 429
Lowko173
Rex 134
ProTech52
Codebar 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32344
Horang2 4192
Sea 3274
Shuttle 2476
Calm 2231
Flash 1602
hero 1494
Barracks 1340
EffOrt 1310
Hyuk 685
[ Show more ]
Mini 407
Zeus 331
Larva 326
BeSt 310
actioN 309
Soma 259
Soulkey 259
Pusan 255
ZerO 210
Mong 160
Snow 138
Mind 108
Nal_rA 105
Rush 105
TY 89
Sharp 54
Movie 49
Sea.KH 48
soO 44
sSak 35
JulyZerg 31
sorry 28
sas.Sziky 25
[sc1f]eonzerg 25
scan(afreeca) 15
Bale 10
Terrorterran 7
IntoTheRainbow 5
910 5
ggaemo 1
Dota 2
Dendi2617
XcaliburYe548
KheZu536
BananaSlamJamma525
Fuzer 257
Counter-Strike
ScreaM3942
olofmeister2784
x6flipin543
flusha221
oskar86
markeloff55
Other Games
singsing2259
B2W.Neo1391
hiko860
crisheroes382
mouzStarbuck172
XaKoH 163
ArmadaUGS62
QueenE35
rGuardiaN34
FunKaTv 22
ZerO(Twitch)15
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1244
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 60
• davetesta26
• iHatsuTV 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV558
League of Legends
• Nemesis5423
• Jankos1127
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
3h 6m
OSC
11h 6m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
22h 6m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 2h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 11h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 22h
Stormgate Nexus
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.