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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
December 09 2012 21:45 GMT
#401
Those things are why I dont play Hots atm. Every protoss against terran or zerg just masses 4 of them of the start, and their is literally no way to deny them. Ive never had them kill less than 15 workers.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 09 2012 21:46 GMT
#402
On December 10 2012 06:44 Zorgaz wrote:
Loved seeing the Hydras, but they still seem kinda weak =/


they're actually quite good Ret's army supply was just way lower, couple them with Viper's to pull the big scary units like colossi and immortals towards them they are deadly, also blinding cloud.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 09 2012 21:46 GMT
#403
beta show matches are always fun <3
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
December 09 2012 21:46 GMT
#404
Btw those 4 Oracles are 600/600, let's not forget :-)
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 21:46:52
December 09 2012 21:46 GMT
#405
Guys, guys, SC2 is saved I think.

*inb4 Hive rushing returns, and BL/Infestor somehow becomes the best composition again*
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#406
On December 10 2012 06:46 dani` wrote:
Btw those 4 Oracles are 600/600, let's not forget :-)

they need to be 10,000/1,000
#TheOneTrueDong
_Galad_
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece184 Posts
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#407
On December 10 2012 06:45 Darpa wrote:
Those things are why I dont play Hots atm. Every protoss against terran or zerg just masses 4 of them of the start, and their is literally no way to deny them. Ive never had them kill less than 15 workers.

Idra defended em just fine when he was playing WRa
Channel the Light of Aiur...
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#408
nasl still can't mute replays. wp soundguy
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#409
On December 10 2012 06:46 dani` wrote:
Btw those 4 Oracles are 600/600, let's not forget :-)

That's pretty much like sentry's just half the mineral cost.
Cackle™
Ranir
Profile Joined June 2011
413 Posts
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#410
On December 10 2012 06:46 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:44 Zorgaz wrote:
Loved seeing the Hydras, but they still seem kinda weak =/


they're actually quite good Ret's army supply was just way lower, couple them with Viper's to pull the big scary units like colossi and immortals towards them they are deadly, also blinding cloud.

They are good, i think everyone should go and watch Idra's VoDs of HOTS, hes really better than ret at least on hots. Idra and whitera played a ton of games and idra was winning most of them.
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 21:48:00
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#411
On December 10 2012 06:45 Darpa wrote:
Those things are why I dont play Hots atm. Every protoss against terran or zerg just masses 4 of them of the start, and their is literally no way to deny them. Ive never had them kill less than 15 workers.


I've played a protoss who flew in with 4 of them and get insta gibbed by my widow mine and a turret. It's okay!
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#412
People are going nuts over the Oracle, but forgetting that they cost 600/600 for those 4.

6+ blue-flame hellions can do the same thing.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#413
On December 10 2012 06:46 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Guys, guys, SC2 is saved I think.

*inb4 Hive rushing returns, and BL/Infestor somehow becomes the best composition again*


Nope infestor nerf + tempests, voidray and carrier buff makes that composition not as strong anymore. Toss air will be stronger then zerg air for sure now thanks to voids just wtf pwning corruptors now. I am so glad that composition is dead ^_^
When I think of something else, something will go here
Sreka
Profile Joined May 2011
France114 Posts
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#414
infestor got nerfed pretty heavily, I doubt they are making any comeback ^^
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#415
On December 10 2012 06:45 FrogOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:42 eviltomahawk wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:39 Proseat wrote:
For those that still wonder: Oracle can only deal damage for as long as it has energy. Dealing damage drains the energy. And yeah, the ability is activated.

Not just dealing damage drains the energy. Just having the beam turned on drains energy even when not attacking, so it requires some babysitting and management of the toggle to make the most efficient use of the energy. I really like this particular aspect.


True, but killing two bases worth of drones in an instant is still pretty scary.


That is because Ret was completely unprepared and obviously hasn't really played HotS much. It's definitely strong, but not that hard to deal with, if u watched Idra vs White-ra, u can make their investment into oracles completely worthless with good defence.

Also, i haven't been able to make use of oracles once hydra have come out, has anyone had success with oracles once the zerg gets hydras?
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
December 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#416
Why did ret pull back all of his roaches and lings when the oracles got into his nat? Shouldn't he used them to attack White-Ra's natural?
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 09 2012 21:48 GMT
#417
On December 10 2012 06:46 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Guys, guys, SC2 is saved I think.

*inb4 Hive rushing returns, and BL/Infestor somehow becomes the best composition again*


Both protoss and terran actually have the needed tools to fuck up BL infestor so badly it's not even funny. Also ultralisks got buffed like nobodies business so they got a lot more alluring.
LokiEU
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom6 Posts
December 09 2012 21:48 GMT
#418
On December 10 2012 06:47 _Galad_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:45 Darpa wrote:
Those things are why I dont play Hots atm. Every protoss against terran or zerg just masses 4 of them of the start, and their is literally no way to deny them. Ive never had them kill less than 15 workers.

Idra defended em just fine when he was playing WRa

He even said they were crap.
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
December 09 2012 21:48 GMT
#419
Hang on, patching my HotS beta.... LOL
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 09 2012 21:48 GMT
#420
On December 10 2012 06:47 trinxified wrote:
People are going nuts over the Oracle, but forgetting that they cost 600/600 for those 4.

6+ blue-flame hellions can do the same thing.

Yeea but you can't crono boost out 6 blue flame hellions and the upgrade lol
Cackle™
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