• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:28
CEST 12:28
KST 19:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy15ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research7Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Behind the scenes footage of ASL21 Group E ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Build Order Practice Maps
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM [ASL21] Ro24 Group E [ASL21] Ro24 Group D
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11494 users

[GSTL] Grand Finals Season 3 2012 - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 52 53 54 Next
hipster chat in #TL-GSTL on IRC quakenet
FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
December 05 2012 09:54 GMT
#21
On December 05 2012 18:40 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 18:26 MCXD wrote:
TheBest is a weird as hell opening pick.

Heart with MVP, Head a close victory for FXO, 5-3 or 5-4.


Unstable or Boss might have to correct me on this, but I remember that a while ago FXO would decide their picks by inhouse ranking tournaments. Would explain why the picks change so much.


for online leagues yea, but in this particular instance, the best may be a... sacraficial lamb of sorts to see whats happening. pretty sure mvp thought the same with vampire
FXOUnstable
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 05 2012 09:59 GMT
#22
On December 05 2012 18:40 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 18:26 MCXD wrote:
TheBest is a weird as hell opening pick.

Heart with MVP, Head a close victory for FXO, 5-3 or 5-4.


Unstable or Boss might have to correct me on this, but I remember that a while ago FXO would decide their picks by inhouse ranking tournaments. Would explain why the picks change so much.

That might be true, but the mainstays of FXO are Leenock and GuMiho, with Tear being close behind, doing well in teamleagues but has nothing of value in individual leagues.

They have 3 people who are almost for sure gonna come out.

Then who else is there? They have a bunch of Code B players and some older players who haven't done anything in over year, then theres Lucky who was in Code S but has fallen out of GSL a long time ago.

I think TheBest is a fine opening player. I do think GuMiho is one of the best openers, he has no weak matchup and there is players who you can say is better than him, but there is not the player GuMiho cannot defeat on a good day.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
December 05 2012 10:10 GMT
#23
On December 05 2012 18:59 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 18:40 jalstar wrote:
On December 05 2012 18:26 MCXD wrote:
TheBest is a weird as hell opening pick.

Heart with MVP, Head a close victory for FXO, 5-3 or 5-4.


Unstable or Boss might have to correct me on this, but I remember that a while ago FXO would decide their picks by inhouse ranking tournaments. Would explain why the picks change so much.

That might be true, but the mainstays of FXO are Leenock and GuMiho, with Tear being close behind, doing well in teamleagues but has nothing of value in individual leagues.

They have 3 people who are almost for sure gonna come out.

Then who else is there? They have a bunch of Code B players and some older players who haven't done anything in over year, then theres Lucky who was in Code S but has fallen out of GSL a long time ago.

I think TheBest is a fine opening player. I do think GuMiho is one of the best openers, he has no weak matchup and there is players who you can say is better than him, but there is not the player GuMiho cannot defeat on a good day.


Yeah but TheBest is known as a sniper. He's the guy who practices really hard in a particular matchup, then comes out to take one win against the unprepared opponent. Sending him out first... well, it's like putting your trained sniper on the front lines with a machine gun! But it could work, so we'll see what happens in a few days time :3
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
December 05 2012 10:22 GMT
#24
hope DRG unleashes
For the Swarm * DRG *
saiyogo
Profile Joined June 2011
Vietnam136 Posts
December 05 2012 10:23 GMT
#25
We' ve got a new patch, so strange things can happen.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 10:28:23
December 05 2012 10:25 GMT
#26
I'm interested to see how the patch changes the strength of each team, I would say FXO benefits more from it.

I believe this is the first premier league games we're going to see on it, before the NASL finals, and of course proleague.

edit: scratch that, Proleague starts earlier in the evening before this.

I hope FXO can take back to back seasons, GUMIHO ALL KILL 2.0?
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 05 2012 10:31 GMT
#27
On December 05 2012 19:25 Dodgin wrote:
I'm interested to see how the patch changes the strength of each team, I would say FXO benefits more from it.

I believe this is the first premier league games we're going to see on it, before the NASL finals, and of course proleague.

edit: scratch that, Proleague starts earlier in the evening before this.

I hope FXO can take back to back seasons, GUMIHO ALL KILL 2.0?

But this time to make it even more exciting, its a REVERSE All-Kill
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 05 2012 10:40 GMT
#28
whyyyy couldn't this be TSL vs ST instead ;_;

well... gogo FXO I guess
FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
December 05 2012 10:41 GMT
#29
On December 05 2012 18:59 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 18:40 jalstar wrote:
On December 05 2012 18:26 MCXD wrote:
TheBest is a weird as hell opening pick.

Heart with MVP, Head a close victory for FXO, 5-3 or 5-4.


Unstable or Boss might have to correct me on this, but I remember that a while ago FXO would decide their picks by inhouse ranking tournaments. Would explain why the picks change so much.

That might be true, but the mainstays of FXO are Leenock and GuMiho, with Tear being close behind, doing well in teamleagues but has nothing of value in individual leagues.

They have 3 people who are almost for sure gonna come out.

Then who else is there? They have a bunch of Code B players and some older players who haven't done anything in over year, then theres Lucky who was in Code S but has fallen out of GSL a long time ago.

I think TheBest is a fine opening player. I do think GuMiho is one of the best openers, he has no weak matchup and there is players who you can say is better than him, but there is not the player GuMiho cannot defeat on a good day.


A valid analysis, but I think you place too much emphasis on code S/A/B there are many players who are code B who are very strong players in their own right and can take a game of code S players on any day so be careful about getting caught out by that
FXOUnstable
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 05 2012 10:48 GMT
#30
On December 05 2012 19:41 FXOUnstable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 18:59 Hiea wrote:
On December 05 2012 18:40 jalstar wrote:
On December 05 2012 18:26 MCXD wrote:
TheBest is a weird as hell opening pick.

Heart with MVP, Head a close victory for FXO, 5-3 or 5-4.


Unstable or Boss might have to correct me on this, but I remember that a while ago FXO would decide their picks by inhouse ranking tournaments. Would explain why the picks change so much.

That might be true, but the mainstays of FXO are Leenock and GuMiho, with Tear being close behind, doing well in teamleagues but has nothing of value in individual leagues.

They have 3 people who are almost for sure gonna come out.

Then who else is there? They have a bunch of Code B players and some older players who haven't done anything in over year, then theres Lucky who was in Code S but has fallen out of GSL a long time ago.

I think TheBest is a fine opening player. I do think GuMiho is one of the best openers, he has no weak matchup and there is players who you can say is better than him, but there is not the player GuMiho cannot defeat on a good day.


A valid analysis, but I think you place too much emphasis on code S/A/B there are many players who are code B who are very strong players in their own right and can take a game of code S players on any day so be careful about getting caught out by that


Yeah, I mean until recently Yonghwa was Code B >_>

Also, Tear is Code B and probably the best player on a ESF team not in the GSL.
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
December 05 2012 11:03 GMT
#31
I am not impressed with Sniper's ZvT and DRG seems to only be solid (for code S) in the MU.

If Gumiho got past DRG I could see an all-kill yeah
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 05 2012 11:07 GMT
#32
completely 50-50 this match, impossible to call.

FXO; If Leenock and Gumiho play as well as we have seen, either one of them can all kill
MVP; If Sniper/Monster/Tails get in a rythem and win a few sets, they can all kill as well.

Comes down to who can hold their nerves the most. Both teams going for no2 GSTL championship as well.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 05 2012 11:18 GMT
#33
On December 05 2012 17:54 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 17:50 Hall0wed wrote:
I think MVP will win 5-3.


WHY MUST WE ALWAYS DISAGREE (you dirty dirty Startale fan ^^)


Is that so? Also I thought you were an MVP fan yourself?
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
December 05 2012 11:20 GMT
#34
TheBest as MVP, duh.
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
December 05 2012 11:42 GMT
#35
MVP 5-4, DRG-Gumiho 50min epic ace match on Cloud Kingdom
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 05 2012 11:47 GMT
#36
C'mooon MVP ! Hoping for some Keen play.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
December 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#37
On December 05 2012 20:42 Zeroxk wrote:
MVP 5-4, DRG-Gumiho 50min epic ace match on Cloud Kingdom


Pretty sure DRG won't be the ace.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#38
On December 05 2012 20:42 Zeroxk wrote:
MVP 5-4, DRG-Gumiho 50min epic ace match on Cloud Kingdom

ace match would be Sniper vs Leenock and you know it ^^
ToF
Profile Joined December 2011
Suriname40 Posts
December 05 2012 11:57 GMT
#39
MVP 5-1, DRG all-kills.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 05 2012 12:37 GMT
#40
On December 05 2012 18:47 KingPaddy wrote:
I think FXO should win this due to the old beating-TSL-in-the-semis-curse (those teams always lose in the finals!)

I concord.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 52 53 54 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PondCast
10:00
Episode 88
CranKy Ducklings16
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 152
ProTech118
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2718
Sea 2346
Bisu 1344
Horang2 881
firebathero 505
Shine 319
Hyuk 296
Soma 272
Stork 191
actioN 178
[ Show more ]
PianO 149
hero 140
Backho 78
Last 70
Mini 55
Aegong 53
Killer 49
Rush 48
Noble 36
Shinee 33
910 24
sorry 24
Hm[arnc] 20
zelot 20
Barracks 18
NotJumperer 17
soO 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Terrorterran 11
Movie 7
[sc1f]eonzerg 3
ggaemo 1
Dota 2
BananaSlamJamma230
NeuroSwarm89
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1950
x6flipin229
edward126
Other Games
singsing709
ceh9642
crisheroes177
Sick102
RotterdaM58
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick782
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 36
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1223
• Stunt580
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
32m
OSC
13h 32m
RSL Revival
23h 32m
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
Replay Cast
1d 13h
RSL Revival
1d 23h
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-31
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.