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FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
December 05 2012 09:54 GMT
#21
On December 05 2012 18:40 jalstar wrote:
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On December 05 2012 18:26 MCXD wrote:
TheBest is a weird as hell opening pick.

Heart with MVP, Head a close victory for FXO, 5-3 or 5-4.


Unstable or Boss might have to correct me on this, but I remember that a while ago FXO would decide their picks by inhouse ranking tournaments. Would explain why the picks change so much.


for online leagues yea, but in this particular instance, the best may be a... sacraficial lamb of sorts to see whats happening. pretty sure mvp thought the same with vampire
FXOUnstable
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 05 2012 09:59 GMT
#22
On December 05 2012 18:40 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 18:26 MCXD wrote:
TheBest is a weird as hell opening pick.

Heart with MVP, Head a close victory for FXO, 5-3 or 5-4.


Unstable or Boss might have to correct me on this, but I remember that a while ago FXO would decide their picks by inhouse ranking tournaments. Would explain why the picks change so much.

That might be true, but the mainstays of FXO are Leenock and GuMiho, with Tear being close behind, doing well in teamleagues but has nothing of value in individual leagues.

They have 3 people who are almost for sure gonna come out.

Then who else is there? They have a bunch of Code B players and some older players who haven't done anything in over year, then theres Lucky who was in Code S but has fallen out of GSL a long time ago.

I think TheBest is a fine opening player. I do think GuMiho is one of the best openers, he has no weak matchup and there is players who you can say is better than him, but there is not the player GuMiho cannot defeat on a good day.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
December 05 2012 10:10 GMT
#23
On December 05 2012 18:59 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 18:40 jalstar wrote:
On December 05 2012 18:26 MCXD wrote:
TheBest is a weird as hell opening pick.

Heart with MVP, Head a close victory for FXO, 5-3 or 5-4.


Unstable or Boss might have to correct me on this, but I remember that a while ago FXO would decide their picks by inhouse ranking tournaments. Would explain why the picks change so much.

That might be true, but the mainstays of FXO are Leenock and GuMiho, with Tear being close behind, doing well in teamleagues but has nothing of value in individual leagues.

They have 3 people who are almost for sure gonna come out.

Then who else is there? They have a bunch of Code B players and some older players who haven't done anything in over year, then theres Lucky who was in Code S but has fallen out of GSL a long time ago.

I think TheBest is a fine opening player. I do think GuMiho is one of the best openers, he has no weak matchup and there is players who you can say is better than him, but there is not the player GuMiho cannot defeat on a good day.


Yeah but TheBest is known as a sniper. He's the guy who practices really hard in a particular matchup, then comes out to take one win against the unprepared opponent. Sending him out first... well, it's like putting your trained sniper on the front lines with a machine gun! But it could work, so we'll see what happens in a few days time :3
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
December 05 2012 10:22 GMT
#24
hope DRG unleashes
For the Swarm * DRG *
saiyogo
Profile Joined June 2011
Vietnam136 Posts
December 05 2012 10:23 GMT
#25
We' ve got a new patch, so strange things can happen.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 10:28:23
December 05 2012 10:25 GMT
#26
I'm interested to see how the patch changes the strength of each team, I would say FXO benefits more from it.

I believe this is the first premier league games we're going to see on it, before the NASL finals, and of course proleague.

edit: scratch that, Proleague starts earlier in the evening before this.

I hope FXO can take back to back seasons, GUMIHO ALL KILL 2.0?
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 05 2012 10:31 GMT
#27
On December 05 2012 19:25 Dodgin wrote:
I'm interested to see how the patch changes the strength of each team, I would say FXO benefits more from it.

I believe this is the first premier league games we're going to see on it, before the NASL finals, and of course proleague.

edit: scratch that, Proleague starts earlier in the evening before this.

I hope FXO can take back to back seasons, GUMIHO ALL KILL 2.0?

But this time to make it even more exciting, its a REVERSE All-Kill
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 05 2012 10:40 GMT
#28
whyyyy couldn't this be TSL vs ST instead ;_;

well... gogo FXO I guess
FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
December 05 2012 10:41 GMT
#29
On December 05 2012 18:59 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 18:40 jalstar wrote:
On December 05 2012 18:26 MCXD wrote:
TheBest is a weird as hell opening pick.

Heart with MVP, Head a close victory for FXO, 5-3 or 5-4.


Unstable or Boss might have to correct me on this, but I remember that a while ago FXO would decide their picks by inhouse ranking tournaments. Would explain why the picks change so much.

That might be true, but the mainstays of FXO are Leenock and GuMiho, with Tear being close behind, doing well in teamleagues but has nothing of value in individual leagues.

They have 3 people who are almost for sure gonna come out.

Then who else is there? They have a bunch of Code B players and some older players who haven't done anything in over year, then theres Lucky who was in Code S but has fallen out of GSL a long time ago.

I think TheBest is a fine opening player. I do think GuMiho is one of the best openers, he has no weak matchup and there is players who you can say is better than him, but there is not the player GuMiho cannot defeat on a good day.


A valid analysis, but I think you place too much emphasis on code S/A/B there are many players who are code B who are very strong players in their own right and can take a game of code S players on any day so be careful about getting caught out by that
FXOUnstable
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 05 2012 10:48 GMT
#30
On December 05 2012 19:41 FXOUnstable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 18:59 Hiea wrote:
On December 05 2012 18:40 jalstar wrote:
On December 05 2012 18:26 MCXD wrote:
TheBest is a weird as hell opening pick.

Heart with MVP, Head a close victory for FXO, 5-3 or 5-4.


Unstable or Boss might have to correct me on this, but I remember that a while ago FXO would decide their picks by inhouse ranking tournaments. Would explain why the picks change so much.

That might be true, but the mainstays of FXO are Leenock and GuMiho, with Tear being close behind, doing well in teamleagues but has nothing of value in individual leagues.

They have 3 people who are almost for sure gonna come out.

Then who else is there? They have a bunch of Code B players and some older players who haven't done anything in over year, then theres Lucky who was in Code S but has fallen out of GSL a long time ago.

I think TheBest is a fine opening player. I do think GuMiho is one of the best openers, he has no weak matchup and there is players who you can say is better than him, but there is not the player GuMiho cannot defeat on a good day.


A valid analysis, but I think you place too much emphasis on code S/A/B there are many players who are code B who are very strong players in their own right and can take a game of code S players on any day so be careful about getting caught out by that


Yeah, I mean until recently Yonghwa was Code B >_>

Also, Tear is Code B and probably the best player on a ESF team not in the GSL.
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
December 05 2012 11:03 GMT
#31
I am not impressed with Sniper's ZvT and DRG seems to only be solid (for code S) in the MU.

If Gumiho got past DRG I could see an all-kill yeah
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 05 2012 11:07 GMT
#32
completely 50-50 this match, impossible to call.

FXO; If Leenock and Gumiho play as well as we have seen, either one of them can all kill
MVP; If Sniper/Monster/Tails get in a rythem and win a few sets, they can all kill as well.

Comes down to who can hold their nerves the most. Both teams going for no2 GSTL championship as well.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 05 2012 11:18 GMT
#33
On December 05 2012 17:54 lichter wrote:
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On December 05 2012 17:50 Hall0wed wrote:
I think MVP will win 5-3.


WHY MUST WE ALWAYS DISAGREE (you dirty dirty Startale fan ^^)


Is that so? Also I thought you were an MVP fan yourself?
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
December 05 2012 11:20 GMT
#34
TheBest as MVP, duh.
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
December 05 2012 11:42 GMT
#35
MVP 5-4, DRG-Gumiho 50min epic ace match on Cloud Kingdom
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 05 2012 11:47 GMT
#36
C'mooon MVP ! Hoping for some Keen play.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
December 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#37
On December 05 2012 20:42 Zeroxk wrote:
MVP 5-4, DRG-Gumiho 50min epic ace match on Cloud Kingdom


Pretty sure DRG won't be the ace.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 05 2012 11:53 GMT
#38
On December 05 2012 20:42 Zeroxk wrote:
MVP 5-4, DRG-Gumiho 50min epic ace match on Cloud Kingdom

ace match would be Sniper vs Leenock and you know it ^^
ToF
Profile Joined December 2011
Suriname40 Posts
December 05 2012 11:57 GMT
#39
MVP 5-1, DRG all-kills.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 05 2012 12:37 GMT
#40
On December 05 2012 18:47 KingPaddy wrote:
I think FXO should win this due to the old beating-TSL-in-the-semis-curse (those teams always lose in the finals!)

I concord.
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