• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:01
CET 16:01
KST 00:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series19
StarCraft 2
General
GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2815 users

[IPL5] Day 4 - Page 248

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 246 247 248 249 250 253 Next
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
December 03 2012 07:54 GMT
#4941
Leenock is a beast
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
December 03 2012 07:57 GMT
#4942
Gratz Leenock you cuddly little beast.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
December 03 2012 08:00 GMT
#4943
Yay Leenock
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 03 2012 08:08 GMT
#4944
On December 03 2012 16:48 playnice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 16:40 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2012 16:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who do you guys think the favorite going into the GSL Grand Tour Finals?
(let's assume seed gets the spot for Parting's 2nd qualification for making it in twice and Seed is next in GSL points)
Parting
Rain
Seed
HerO
Leenock
Sniper
DongRaeGu
Life
viOLet
Mvp

Wait what, Mvp is the only terran again? noooooo. But i'll go with Leenock.

Incredible Odds againts him - Check
A GSL Tournament after he was in hibernation mode - Check
Talks of OPness of his opponent's race - Check and double check
Everyone counting him out - Check
Everything is in its right place.


Yes. Yesssssssssssss.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
gOst
Profile Joined June 2011
415 Posts
December 03 2012 08:12 GMT
#4945
On December 03 2012 16:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who do you guys think the favorite going into the GSL Grand Tour Finals?
(let's assume seed gets the spot for Parting's 2nd qualification for making it in twice and Seed is next in GSL points)
Parting
Rain
Seed
HerO
Leenock
Sniper
DongRaeGu
Life
viOLet
Mvp


Hmm. I'd say it's probably Leenock or DongRaeGu. But you can't really rule out Sniper and Life either. If I had to pick one more I'd probably say viOLet for some reason.
Howl41
Profile Joined September 2012
United States65 Posts
December 03 2012 08:14 GMT
#4946
Terran is in such a great state right now...
<3 Bomer/Flash/Innovation/MMA/MVP/Demuslim/Forgg/Gumiho/Lucifron/SeleCT
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
December 03 2012 08:15 GMT
#4947
so looking through the liquipedia of this event, leenock won having NEVER played a zvp. 3 zvts and all the rest zvzs. its crazy in a 72 man tournament to never play against one of only 3 races!
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
December 03 2012 08:15 GMT
#4948
Didn't watch the finals (tired of ZvZ and Infestors :p). How tense and epic was the final game in the second series of the grand finals? Was it anything like the GSL finals last night?
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 03 2012 08:16 GMT
#4949
On December 03 2012 17:08 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 16:48 playnice wrote:
On December 03 2012 16:40 andaylin wrote:
On December 03 2012 16:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Who do you guys think the favorite going into the GSL Grand Tour Finals?
(let's assume seed gets the spot for Parting's 2nd qualification for making it in twice and Seed is next in GSL points)
Parting
Rain
Seed
HerO
Leenock
Sniper
DongRaeGu
Life
viOLet
Mvp

Wait what, Mvp is the only terran again? noooooo. But i'll go with Leenock.

Incredible Odds againts him - Check
A GSL Tournament after he was in hibernation mode - Check
Talks of OPness of his opponent's race - Check and double check
Everyone counting him out - Check
Everything is in its right place.


Yes. Yesssssssssssss.

Now imagine the following: Mvp can't play because his wrist problems are still not solved.

No terran anymore. Haha. Don't hope it's gonna happen though.
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
December 03 2012 08:27 GMT
#4950
Congrats to Leenock - what a beast!

But, I gotta say, violet was a hero tonight--he made leenock look mortal, took him to the edge. Go violet!
GuMiho <3
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 08:27:38
December 03 2012 08:27 GMT
#4951
Guaranteed way to piss off your tournament viewers and lower the prestige of a tournament:

Have an Extended-series Grand final and have your semi-finals BO3.

*shakes head in disgust*

violet shows a 3-2 in the Grand Final - and loses the tournament ! lol
*burp*
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 08:30:53
December 03 2012 08:29 GMT
#4952
On December 03 2012 17:27 Parcelleus wrote:
Guaranteed way to piss off your tournament viewers and lower the prestige of a tournament:

Have an Extended-series Grand final and have your semi-finals BO3.

*shakes head in disgust*

violet shows a 3-2 in the Grand Final - and loses the tournament ! lol


Huh it wasn't extended series. It was double elimination. Would be more disgusting if leenock was the only person who never got a second life. If it was single elim, violet would have been out before that point. Still amazing to me how so many people still don't understand how double elimination works. Violet was only in the finals because he got a 2nd chance after already losing to leenock in the winner's finals.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
December 03 2012 08:31 GMT
#4953
luckily out of all zergs leenock won!!
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
December 03 2012 08:31 GMT
#4954
On December 03 2012 17:27 Parcelleus wrote:
Guaranteed way to piss off your tournament viewers and lower the prestige of a tournament:

Have an Extended-series Grand final and have your semi-finals BO3.

*shakes head in disgust*

violet shows a 3-2 in the Grand Final - and loses the tournament ! lol


If they used MLG style extended series then it would start at 3-1 Leenock in a bo9, and he would have won that 5-3.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 08:39:33
December 03 2012 08:38 GMT
#4955
On December 03 2012 17:29 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 17:27 Parcelleus wrote:
Guaranteed way to piss off your tournament viewers and lower the prestige of a tournament:

Have an Extended-series Grand final and have your semi-finals BO3.

*shakes head in disgust*

violet shows a 3-2 in the Grand Final - and loses the tournament ! lol


Huh it wasn't extended series. It was double elimination. Would be more disgusting if leenock was the only person who never got a second life. If it was single elim, violet would have been out before that point. Still amazing to me how so many people still don't understand how double elimination works. Violet was only in the finals because he got a 2nd chance after already losing to leenock in the winner's finals.


I dont like the format at all - that is my point.

Should be groups , winners and losers bracket to get into groups and top places in the group goto playoffs - then you have a grand final that is played on its own terms - not relying on earlier games.

As I said - violet wins the grand final 3-2 and loses the tournament - you cant see a problem with that ?

When a player performs better in the Grand final - they should win the whole thing. Like BWC, GSL etc.

*burp*
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
December 03 2012 08:41 GMT
#4956
On December 03 2012 16:07 slowbacontron wrote:
THAT OVERLORD KILL!!!

Don't know if the audience has gone delirious from lack of sleep, or is really super intent on being excited.


The crowd was cheering for random things all weekend. Also the whole we're exhausted and something is actually happening.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-03 08:46:03
December 03 2012 08:41 GMT
#4957
On December 03 2012 17:38 Parcelleus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 17:29 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 03 2012 17:27 Parcelleus wrote:
Guaranteed way to piss off your tournament viewers and lower the prestige of a tournament:

Have an Extended-series Grand final and have your semi-finals BO3.

*shakes head in disgust*

violet shows a 3-2 in the Grand Final - and loses the tournament ! lol


Huh it wasn't extended series. It was double elimination. Would be more disgusting if leenock was the only person who never got a second life. If it was single elim, violet would have been out before that point. Still amazing to me how so many people still don't understand how double elimination works. Violet was only in the finals because he got a 2nd chance after already losing to leenock in the winner's finals.


I dont like the format at all - that is my point.

Should be groups , winners and losers bracket to get into groups and top places in the group goto playoffs - then you have a grand final that is played on its own terms - not relying on earlier games.

As I said - violet wins the grand final 3-2 and loses the tournament - you cant see a problem with that ?

When a player performs better in the Grand final - they should win imho.



Then please host your own tournament and get all the best players in the world to come.

Leenock won first series 3-1, should he have lost because he lost the second 2-3? You can't see a problem with that.

Violet went into the finals 1 set down, he won the second set 3-2 and lost the tie breaking 3 set 1-2 so he lost. It is not too hard to understand.

Group play only really makes since when you have a seeding system in place like GSL, WCS (with the regions). Or else you can get groups like Leenock, Life, HerO, Polt. Which would not be fair for the players.
Sesshin
Profile Joined December 2012
United States4 Posts
December 03 2012 08:43 GMT
#4958
On December 03 2012 17:38 Parcelleus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 17:29 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 03 2012 17:27 Parcelleus wrote:
Guaranteed way to piss off your tournament viewers and lower the prestige of a tournament:

Have an Extended-series Grand final and have your semi-finals BO3.

*shakes head in disgust*

violet shows a 3-2 in the Grand Final - and loses the tournament ! lol


Huh it wasn't extended series. It was double elimination. Would be more disgusting if leenock was the only person who never got a second life. If it was single elim, violet would have been out before that point. Still amazing to me how so many people still don't understand how double elimination works. Violet was only in the finals because he got a 2nd chance after already losing to leenock in the winner's finals.


I dont like the format at all - that is my point.

Should be groups , winners and losers bracket to get into groups and top places in the group goto playoffs - then you have a grand final that is played on its own terms - not relying on earlier games.

As I said - violet wins the grand final 3-2 and loses the tournament - you cant see a problem with that ?

When a player performs better in the Grand final - they should win the whole thing. Like BWC, GSL etc.



You still aren't getting it. Violet DIDNT win the "Grand Final". He won the chance to win the "Grand Final" by beating Leenock 3-2 in the first series.

This is like eSports 101...
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 03 2012 08:44 GMT
#4959
Gratz Leenock!!!

Will be interesting to see if Violet goes to Korea for the GSL thing
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
December 03 2012 08:45 GMT
#4960
On December 03 2012 17:43 Sesshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 17:38 Parcelleus wrote:
On December 03 2012 17:29 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 03 2012 17:27 Parcelleus wrote:
Guaranteed way to piss off your tournament viewers and lower the prestige of a tournament:

Have an Extended-series Grand final and have your semi-finals BO3.

*shakes head in disgust*

violet shows a 3-2 in the Grand Final - and loses the tournament ! lol


Huh it wasn't extended series. It was double elimination. Would be more disgusting if leenock was the only person who never got a second life. If it was single elim, violet would have been out before that point. Still amazing to me how so many people still don't understand how double elimination works. Violet was only in the finals because he got a 2nd chance after already losing to leenock in the winner's finals.


I dont like the format at all - that is my point.

Should be groups , winners and losers bracket to get into groups and top places in the group goto playoffs - then you have a grand final that is played on its own terms - not relying on earlier games.

As I said - violet wins the grand final 3-2 and loses the tournament - you cant see a problem with that ?

When a player performs better in the Grand final - they should win the whole thing. Like BWC, GSL etc.



You still aren't getting it. Violet DIDNT win the "Grand Final". He won the chance to win the "Grand Final" by beating Leenock 3-2 in the first series.

This is like eSports 101...



I get it, I don't like it.

You seemed to of missed the point I made.

Might wanna try - interpersonal skills 101.
*burp*
Prev 1 246 247 248 249 250 253 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Team League
12:00
Group B
WardiTV1011
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
MindelVK 43
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 17842
firebathero 7072
Horang2 2496
Jaedong 1931
BeSt 483
Mini 459
EffOrt 432
Stork 337
Rush 272
Soma 259
[ Show more ]
actioN 130
Dewaltoss 120
Last 103
ToSsGirL 76
Mind 67
Sea.KH 54
Backho 52
Barracks 39
sorry 35
JulyZerg 32
IntoTheRainbow 32
Hm[arnc] 32
Nal_rA 25
GoRush 20
Terrorterran 14
NaDa 13
ivOry 11
SilentControl 10
Dota 2
Gorgc6018
BananaSlamJamma125
League of Legends
Rex51
Counter-Strike
fl0m1749
byalli677
x6flipin423
kRYSTAL_28
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor350
Liquid`Hasu240
Other Games
B2W.Neo2857
Liquid`RaSZi1099
DeMusliM313
KnowMe192
Fuzer 175
Hui .165
crisheroes101
Mew2King62
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream15871
Other Games
gamesdonequick909
ComeBackTV 260
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 18
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 10
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 67
• musti20045 37
• poizon28 21
• Adnapsc2 11
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 37
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1410
Upcoming Events
Patches Events
1h 59m
BSL
4h 59m
GSL
16h 59m
Wardi Open
20h 59m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 1h
WardiTV Team League
1d 20h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
OSC
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.