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TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
December 02 2012 05:59 GMT
#2681
On December 02 2012 14:56 Visage814 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 14:26 Astro-Penguin wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:25 Gamegene wrote:
SNIPER = KING JOFFERY?


Uh more like Jaime, Joffrey is pretty much Deezer



Ah! So Sniper will get some major wrist problems, have some kind of epiphany, switch to terran, then he will be one of the fan favorites?


Did you seriously just spoiled Game of Thrones for me?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 06:01:59
December 02 2012 06:01 GMT
#2682
On December 02 2012 14:59 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 14:56 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:55 Havik_ wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:29 opterown wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:25 opterown wrote:
Poll: What did you think of the finals?

★★★★ (45)
 
41%

★★★ (35)
 
32%

★★★★★ (17)
 
15%

★ (9)
 
8%

★★ (5)
 
5%

111 total votes

Your vote: What did you think of the finals?

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★


for reference:
Poll: Rate Mvp vs. Squirtle overall??

★★★★★ (431)
 
84%

★★★★ (47)
 
9%

★ (16)
 
3%

★★★ (13)
 
3%

★★ (6)
 
1%

513 total votes

Your vote: Rate Mvp vs. Squirtle overall??

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★



(the only other GSL finals thread i've made)



3/5 makes sense. It was an average final, with average ZvZ until game 7, which was nuts.


Really? Even if it were not perfect games, it was a sight to behold 4/5 at minimum.


No fucking way it was 4/5 minimum. 3/5 seems fair

Also I have a problem with the GSL Tour Final having point decay. It's a final for the best players throughout the whole year. I don't think that a recent champion should have greater claim to a seed than someone who has been better all year long.

if someone has been better all year long but worse recently, doesn't that make sense to have point decay?

i mean without point decay we'd value seed's win as much as sniper's, when sniper is clearly the better player atm. if you were truly good for the whole year, you'd place highly multiple times like DRG
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 02 2012 06:03 GMT
#2683
On December 02 2012 15:01 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 14:59 lichter wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:56 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:55 Havik_ wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:29 opterown wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:25 opterown wrote:
Poll: What did you think of the finals?

★★★★ (45)
 
41%

★★★ (35)
 
32%

★★★★★ (17)
 
15%

★ (9)
 
8%

★★ (5)
 
5%

111 total votes

Your vote: What did you think of the finals?

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★


for reference:
Poll: Rate Mvp vs. Squirtle overall??

★★★★★ (431)
 
84%

★★★★ (47)
 
9%

★ (16)
 
3%

★★★ (13)
 
3%

★★ (6)
 
1%

513 total votes

Your vote: Rate Mvp vs. Squirtle overall??

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★



(the only other GSL finals thread i've made)



3/5 makes sense. It was an average final, with average ZvZ until game 7, which was nuts.


Really? Even if it were not perfect games, it was a sight to behold 4/5 at minimum.


No fucking way it was 4/5 minimum. 3/5 seems fair

Also I have a problem with the GSL Tour Final having point decay. It's a final for the best players throughout the whole year. I don't think that a recent champion should have greater claim to a seed than someone who has been better all year long.

if someone has been better all year long but worse recently, doesn't that make sense to have point decay?

i mean without point decay we'd value seed's win as much as sniper's, when sniper is clearly the better player atm


Depends on the purpose of the tournament I suppose.

If it is a show tournament of the best players throughout the year, then yes Seed's win should be equal.

But if it is a tournament to decide "best player of the year right now" then yes there should be point decay.

Tbh I am more interested in the former, since pretty much all tournament winners are proclaimed "best player in the world" anyway -_-''
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 02 2012 06:04 GMT
#2684
Gratz Sniper

I'm really glad they are going back to the long GSL seasons next year, didn't really enjoy much about this season at all apart from the great crowd/production we had.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 02 2012 06:05 GMT
#2685
On December 02 2012 14:59 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 14:56 Visage814 wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:26 Astro-Penguin wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:25 Gamegene wrote:
SNIPER = KING JOFFERY?


Uh more like Jaime, Joffrey is pretty much Deezer



Ah! So Sniper will get some major wrist problems, have some kind of epiphany, switch to terran, then he will be one of the fan favorites?


Did you seriously just spoiled Game of Thrones for me?


lol
BigFoig
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada52 Posts
December 02 2012 06:05 GMT
#2686
Sad day
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
December 02 2012 06:06 GMT
#2687
Perfect games are much more boring than people realize. Parting's play on a good day vs Zerg can tell you a lot. That is why Squirtle Vs MvP had a lot to it. Not speaking of BO advantage which is pushed to the limit. Games where pros respect their opponents to a high degree usually have some mistakes in it. Pretty bold argument, i know.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 02 2012 06:08 GMT
#2688
On December 02 2012 14:56 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 14:55 Havik_ wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:29 opterown wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:25 opterown wrote:
Poll: What did you think of the finals?

★★★★ (45)
 
41%

★★★ (35)
 
32%

★★★★★ (17)
 
15%

★ (9)
 
8%

★★ (5)
 
5%

111 total votes

Your vote: What did you think of the finals?

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★


for reference:
Poll: Rate Mvp vs. Squirtle overall??

★★★★★ (431)
 
84%

★★★★ (47)
 
9%

★ (16)
 
3%

★★★ (13)
 
3%

★★ (6)
 
1%

513 total votes

Your vote: Rate Mvp vs. Squirtle overall??

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★



(the only other GSL finals thread i've made)



3/5 makes sense. It was an average final, with average ZvZ until game 7, which was nuts.

sounds like MMA-DRG haha (pretty average until epic final game)

i think overall, games 1-6 were better tonight, but mma-drg game 7 was better than this game 7 (which was still fucking insane)
#TheOneTrueDong
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-02 06:11:44
December 02 2012 06:11 GMT
#2689
edit:wrong thread lol
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27046 Posts
December 02 2012 06:13 GMT
#2690
On December 02 2012 15:06 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Perfect games are much more boring than people realize. Parting's play on a good day vs Zerg can tell you a lot. That is why Squirtle Vs MvP had a lot to it. Not speaking of BO advantage which is pushed to the limit. Games where pros respect their opponents to a high degree usually have some mistakes in it. Pretty bold argument, i know.

Nah it's logical. I mean it's why I love Polt so much, he seems to somehow force games down to an imperfect level. I don't mean its down a level in terms of skill, but it fits with Polt's reputation as a scrappy player with tons of heart and the ability to make staggering comebacks. The 'Polt effect' is beautiful, because for some reason Polt doesn't just play in his own bar-brawler-esque style, but his opponents start doing that as well. I have no idea why this is, perhaps he has some kind of mind ray.

Compare, in boxing Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward, to most of Floyd Mayweather's biggest fights. The latter is more technically refined and 'correct' boxing, the former is the better spectacle for the neutral spectator.

Consider many football matches that go down in folklore. Many of them are matches with a scoreline like 4-3, which is a clear indicator of bad defending as much as it is about good attacking.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 02 2012 06:40 GMT
#2691
On December 02 2012 14:21 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 14:21 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:19 opterown wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:19 Hall0wed wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:17 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:16 StarVe wrote:
On December 02 2012 14:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
15 minutes until WCG!

Adelscott for GSL year end tourney seed!


That would probably be the most depressing and absurd win in all of SC2 history.


It will never happen, Parting will eat him alive. 4-0 pretty easy.

bo3

in other news sniper is in GSL Tour Finals


A finals is a Bo3...?

wasn't bw wcg bo3 too


Yeah, but Starcraft 2 series are always more games.
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
December 02 2012 06:54 GMT
#2692
well this was a horrendous gsl in general...
can i get my estro logo back pls
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 02 2012 07:08 GMT
#2693
I wonder if Sniper will have fans now that he's a GSL champion.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 02 2012 07:11 GMT
#2694
On December 02 2012 16:08 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if Sniper will have fans now that he's a GSL champion.


Until tomorrow where we find a new greatest player ^_^
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 02 2012 07:13 GMT
#2695
On December 02 2012 16:08 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if Sniper will have fans now that he's a GSL champion.



ive been a sniper fan for a while now. You hurt my feelings.
#TheOneTrueDong
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 02 2012 07:16 GMT
#2696
Ok so not including the GSL grand tour thing, stats for this year

Zerg in GSL finals - 4
Protoss in GSL finals - 4
Terran in GSL finals - 2

Zerg GSL champions this year - 3
Protoss GSL champions this year - 1
Terran GSL champions this year - 1

Mvp is the only Terran player to make a GSL finals, Zerg and Protoss were represented by a different player every time.
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
December 02 2012 07:21 GMT
#2697
On December 02 2012 16:13 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 16:08 Dodgin wrote:
I wonder if Sniper will have fans now that he's a GSL champion.



ive been a sniper fan for a while now. You hurt my feelings.


aww all sniper fans are amazing.
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
December 02 2012 07:31 GMT
#2698
On December 02 2012 15:54 aRyuujin wrote:
well this was a horrendous gsl in general...

Completely subjective.
no fan favorites made it a bit more exciting imo to see who would rise on top.
Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
December 02 2012 07:41 GMT
#2699
On December 02 2012 16:31 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 15:54 aRyuujin wrote:
well this was a horrendous gsl in general...

Completely subjective.
no fan favorites made it a bit more exciting imo to see who would rise on top.


Lack of fan favourites aside, the overall quality of games was terrible compared previous seasons.
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
December 02 2012 07:46 GMT
#2700
Oh man , i just want someone to dominate the scene
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