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Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
November 24 2012 10:02 GMT
#1041
Leenock betrayed me...........
BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
November 24 2012 10:15 GMT
#1042
Watching the VOD atm

Startale should rename "The Handsome Nerds" haha ^^

shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
November 24 2012 10:22 GMT
#1043
Great job by FXO, didn't see the games but they have such a good team!

once again in the finals... FXO|boss must be proud

keep it up guys!
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RyuuZer0
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia36 Posts
November 24 2012 10:26 GMT
#1044
On November 24 2012 18:15 zabamhutti wrote:
I noly saw last 2 games and came here to read whine about zerg imba... You didnt dissapoint me. Again we see inferstor/bloodlord loose to carriers on a map where toss gets easy 4 bases

A carrier transition is ridiculously hard to pull off. If you can get to that composition and keep it as hidden as Squirtle did, you deserve to win. Lucky didn't even have any corruptors, so it was just a well executed strategy, not a sign of carriers being overpowered.

If you want to see what happens when a Zerg player plays well against carriers, watch Creator v Curious from WCS Asia.
FlyingTurtle
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
November 24 2012 10:37 GMT
#1045
On November 24 2012 19:26 RyuuZer0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 18:15 zabamhutti wrote:
I noly saw last 2 games and came here to read whine about zerg imba... You didnt dissapoint me. Again we see inferstor/bloodlord loose to carriers on a map where toss gets easy 4 bases

A carrier transition is ridiculously hard to pull off. If you can get to that composition and keep it as hidden as Squirtle did, you deserve to win. Lucky didn't even have any corruptors, so it was just a well executed strategy, not a sign of carriers being overpowered.

If you want to see what happens when a Zerg player plays well against carriers, watch Creator v Curious from WCS Asia.


You're thinking of Creator vs Hyun, Code S Ro8.
"This creature is the completion of a cycle. Its role in the cosmic order was preordained when the stars were young. Behold the culmination of your history." -Samir Duran, on the Hybrid
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 10:44:23
November 24 2012 10:41 GMT
#1046
On November 24 2012 19:37 FlyingTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 19:26 RyuuZer0 wrote:
On November 24 2012 18:15 zabamhutti wrote:
I noly saw last 2 games and came here to read whine about zerg imba... You didnt dissapoint me. Again we see inferstor/bloodlord loose to carriers on a map where toss gets easy 4 bases

A carrier transition is ridiculously hard to pull off. If you can get to that composition and keep it as hidden as Squirtle did, you deserve to win. Lucky didn't even have any corruptors, so it was just a well executed strategy, not a sign of carriers being overpowered.

If you want to see what happens when a Zerg player plays well against carriers, watch Creator v Curious from WCS Asia.


You're thinking of Creator vs Hyun, Code S Ro8.

Creator vs. Curious in WCS Asia had a similar situation (worse, actually, it was more slow/painful than hyun's game. creator also played really well in CK)
VOD: http://www.twitch.tv/wcsasia_1/b/335516857?t=18m28s
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 24 2012 10:42 GMT
#1047
So sad. Startale should have at least made it to the Finals this season just in terms of their depth. I guess they still need to find a way to find cohesion as a group and get wins.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 24 2012 10:49 GMT
#1048
FXO what a boss team o0 Grats to them. And i can't feel a bit happy that Startale's Starline up got beaten by a team few would think of as top tier.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 10:59:40
November 24 2012 10:55 GMT
#1049
On November 24 2012 19:42 Sumahi wrote:
So sad. Startale should have at least made it to the Finals this season just in terms of their depth. I guess they still need to find a way to find cohesion as a group and get wins.


Honestly, Startale should have won. The reason for FXO's victory was Gumiho playing like a god against Life and taking him out in the first match, then also taking down Parting. He took down ST's two strongest players himself. That should not have happened, as great as Gumiho is in team league he's not a champion of any tournament. Life played poorly and the defeat I feel is solely because of his bad performance. He is supposed to be their ace and he went out so easily.

This was Startale's season, it was their best shot. Their entire A team lineup is in form with strong results recently and they should be the best team, they demonstrated in IPTL that they are the best team. I'm still quite shocked that they lost here, FXO is amazing but they don't have a lineup of 5 star players. asd and Tear while great are no Bomber, Life, Parting, Squirtle or even Curious.

They shouldn't lose to any team playing Life, Parting, Squirtle, Bomber, Curious. It just shouldn't happen, but it did.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
November 24 2012 10:56 GMT
#1050
On November 24 2012 19:49 Lysanias wrote:
FXO what a boss team o0 Grats to them. And i can't feel a bit happy that Startale's Starline up got beaten by a team few would think of as top tier.


They won last GSTL, they are good..

FXO has a lot of players who step it up in teamleagues, especially Gumiho.
리노크 👑
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 24 2012 11:01 GMT
#1051
On November 24 2012 19:55 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 19:42 Sumahi wrote:
So sad. Startale should have at least made it to the Finals this season just in terms of their depth. I guess they still need to find a way to find cohesion as a group and get wins.


Honestly, Startale should have won. The reason for FXO's victory was Gumiho playing like a god against Life and taking him out in the first match, then also taking down Parting. He took down ST's two strongest players himself. That should not have happened, as great as Gumiho is in team league he's not a champion of any tournament. Life played poorly and the defeat I feel is solely because of his bad performance. He is supposed to be their ace and he went out so easily.

This was Startale's season, it was their best shot. Their entire A team lineup is in form with strong results recently and they should be the best team, they demonstrated in IPTL that they are the best team. I'm still quite shocked that they lost here, FXO is amazing but they don't have a lineup of 5 star players. asd and Tear while great are no Bomber, Life, Parting, Squirtle or even Curious.

They shouldn't lose to any team playing Life, Parting, Squirtle, Bomber, Curious. It just shouldn't happen, but it did.

IM shouldn't have lost any team leagues either, by this logic. Shit happens.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
November 24 2012 11:04 GMT
#1052
really good GSTL today!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 24 2012 11:07 GMT
#1053
On November 24 2012 20:01 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 19:55 Dodgin wrote:
On November 24 2012 19:42 Sumahi wrote:
So sad. Startale should have at least made it to the Finals this season just in terms of their depth. I guess they still need to find a way to find cohesion as a group and get wins.


Honestly, Startale should have won. The reason for FXO's victory was Gumiho playing like a god against Life and taking him out in the first match, then also taking down Parting. He took down ST's two strongest players himself. That should not have happened, as great as Gumiho is in team league he's not a champion of any tournament. Life played poorly and the defeat I feel is solely because of his bad performance. He is supposed to be their ace and he went out so easily.

This was Startale's season, it was their best shot. Their entire A team lineup is in form with strong results recently and they should be the best team, they demonstrated in IPTL that they are the best team. I'm still quite shocked that they lost here, FXO is amazing but they don't have a lineup of 5 star players. asd and Tear while great are no Bomber, Life, Parting, Squirtle or even Curious.

They shouldn't lose to any team playing Life, Parting, Squirtle, Bomber, Curious. It just shouldn't happen, but it did.

IM shouldn't have lost any team leagues either, by this logic. Shit happens.


IM's failures in team leagues are usually attributed to the decisions of their coach or Mvp and NesTea being weak in teamleague, It's not quite the same. I get what you're saying but really, they shouldn't have lost. I think their biggest mistake was not leaving their strongest player ( Life ) to meet Leenock in the end, I think if they put Squirtle out first instead and left Life for the end they would have had a higher chance to win the last game. Then again Life played poorly in his match and just went 0-4 out of GSL to ZvZ so who knows.

Anyway, full credit to FXO for winning but this is just weird.
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
November 24 2012 11:08 GMT
#1054
On November 24 2012 19:55 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 19:42 Sumahi wrote:
So sad. Startale should have at least made it to the Finals this season just in terms of their depth. I guess they still need to find a way to find cohesion as a group and get wins.


Honestly, Startale should have won. The reason for FXO's victory was Gumiho playing like a god against Life and taking him out in the first match, then also taking down Parting. He took down ST's two strongest players himself. That should not have happened, as great as Gumiho is in team league he's not a champion of any tournament. Life played poorly and the defeat I feel is solely because of his bad performance. He is supposed to be their ace and he went out so easily.

This was Startale's season, it was their best shot. Their entire A team lineup is in form with strong results recently and they should be the best team, they demonstrated in IPTL that they are the best team. I'm still quite shocked that they lost here, FXO is amazing but they don't have a lineup of 5 star players. asd and Tear while great are no Bomber, Life, Parting, Squirtle or even Curious.

They shouldn't lose to any team playing Life, Parting, Squirtle, Bomber, Curious. It just shouldn't happen, but it did.


But it's just like any other sport right? On paper one team is always better than the other (almost always anyway), then you take account of form, training... etc, and you think one team is clearly ahead. But sports has that surprising element that the dark horse may have some incredible play (or the favourite really lacklustre play) and proceed to win.

Personally that's what I like about sports ^^
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 11:11:25
November 24 2012 11:10 GMT
#1055
On November 24 2012 20:08 trwkling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 19:55 Dodgin wrote:
On November 24 2012 19:42 Sumahi wrote:
So sad. Startale should have at least made it to the Finals this season just in terms of their depth. I guess they still need to find a way to find cohesion as a group and get wins.


Honestly, Startale should have won. The reason for FXO's victory was Gumiho playing like a god against Life and taking him out in the first match, then also taking down Parting. He took down ST's two strongest players himself. That should not have happened, as great as Gumiho is in team league he's not a champion of any tournament. Life played poorly and the defeat I feel is solely because of his bad performance. He is supposed to be their ace and he went out so easily.

This was Startale's season, it was their best shot. Their entire A team lineup is in form with strong results recently and they should be the best team, they demonstrated in IPTL that they are the best team. I'm still quite shocked that they lost here, FXO is amazing but they don't have a lineup of 5 star players. asd and Tear while great are no Bomber, Life, Parting, Squirtle or even Curious.

They shouldn't lose to any team playing Life, Parting, Squirtle, Bomber, Curious. It just shouldn't happen, but it did.


But it's just like any other sport right? On paper one team is always better than the other (almost always anyway), then you take account of form, training... etc, and you think one team is clearly ahead. But sports has that surprising element that the dark horse may have some incredible play (or the favourite really lacklustre play) and proceed to win.

Personally that's what I like about sports ^^


Personally I love it and I'm happy FXO won, I just feel bad for Startale after what happened in GSTL Season 1 this year. Justice will not be truly theirs until they win the GSTL.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 24 2012 11:14 GMT
#1056
On November 24 2012 20:10 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 20:08 trwkling wrote:
On November 24 2012 19:55 Dodgin wrote:
On November 24 2012 19:42 Sumahi wrote:
So sad. Startale should have at least made it to the Finals this season just in terms of their depth. I guess they still need to find a way to find cohesion as a group and get wins.


Honestly, Startale should have won. The reason for FXO's victory was Gumiho playing like a god against Life and taking him out in the first match, then also taking down Parting. He took down ST's two strongest players himself. That should not have happened, as great as Gumiho is in team league he's not a champion of any tournament. Life played poorly and the defeat I feel is solely because of his bad performance. He is supposed to be their ace and he went out so easily.

This was Startale's season, it was their best shot. Their entire A team lineup is in form with strong results recently and they should be the best team, they demonstrated in IPTL that they are the best team. I'm still quite shocked that they lost here, FXO is amazing but they don't have a lineup of 5 star players. asd and Tear while great are no Bomber, Life, Parting, Squirtle or even Curious.

They shouldn't lose to any team playing Life, Parting, Squirtle, Bomber, Curious. It just shouldn't happen, but it did.


But it's just like any other sport right? On paper one team is always better than the other (almost always anyway), then you take account of form, training... etc, and you think one team is clearly ahead. But sports has that surprising element that the dark horse may have some incredible play (or the favourite really lacklustre play) and proceed to win.

Personally that's what I like about sports ^^


Personally I love it and I'm happy FXO won, I just feel bad for Startale after what happened in GSTL Season 1 this year. Justice will not be truly theirs until they win the GSTL.

You can't even say that even had parting defeated mkp that st had that in the bag; creator and byun were also in really good shape back then and would have been tough too. this notion of justice is pretty stupid, startale has beaten prime plenty of times since
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 24 2012 11:18 GMT
#1057
Just watched Gumi vs Life. What a FANTASTIC game. Just beautiful.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 24 2012 11:40 GMT
#1058
I thought that Startale might have purposely lost all their Code S spots to prepare for the GSTL. But since that wasn't the case, maybe they lost the GSTL on purpose in order to prepare for IPL5.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
November 24 2012 11:51 GMT
#1059
startale still kongtale
yo
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33678 Posts
November 24 2012 11:56 GMT
#1060
lucky fighting ^_^
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