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Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
November 14 2012 12:37 GMT
#1741
Parting and Polt were bad today, didnt deserve to advance
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
November 14 2012 12:37 GMT
#1742
oh no less terrans in ro8 than zerg, nerf infestor QQ
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 14 2012 12:37 GMT
#1743
I was like "wat? who is innovation?" for a minute there... did bogus not get the "don't change your name" speech from artosis?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25727 Posts
November 14 2012 12:37 GMT
#1744
On November 14 2012 21:36 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 21:32 Happygreek wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:29 MrCon wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:26 Happygreek wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:24 Adreme wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
Polt should've picked antiga...>_>

Or is Antiga not in the map pool?


Seems like peoples views on Antiga being a Terran heaven have evolved this season.


I've been befuddled by this all season. Why have the views shifted so much?

Because terran is 1-7 vs zerg on Antiga this season :D


I wonder how much of that is Zergs just playing well this season as opposed to Zergs figuring out the map. Needs more data!


Much of it is to do with the declining efficiency of hellion contains. In the past T could keep Z much more in check and then push on 2/2 to sieze control of the center of the map and effectively deny large parts of the map while picking off expansions and choking out the zerg. Nowadays Z are free to tech/expand more aggressively early on which lets them hit broodlord/infestor faster and contest the middle of the map, where they can effectively reverse the roles of the races by sieging the Terran instead.

Better understanding of infestor usage helps there too as people are much more careful with them now (as they are with most of their engagements in general)

Yeah that's a good analysis of modern games on Antiga, agreed 100%
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 14 2012 12:38 GMT
#1745
Saw it coming, but still sad to see. :<
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
November 14 2012 12:38 GMT
#1746
On November 14 2012 21:36 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 21:32 Happygreek wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:29 MrCon wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:26 Happygreek wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:24 Adreme wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
Polt should've picked antiga...>_>

Or is Antiga not in the map pool?


Seems like peoples views on Antiga being a Terran heaven have evolved this season.


I've been befuddled by this all season. Why have the views shifted so much?

Because terran is 1-7 vs zerg on Antiga this season :D


I wonder how much of that is Zergs just playing well this season as opposed to Zergs figuring out the map. Needs more data!


Much of it is to do with the declining efficiency of hellion contains. In the past T could keep Z much more in check and then push on 2/2 to sieze control of the center of the map and effectively deny large parts of the map while picking off expansions and choking out the zerg. Nowadays Z are free to tech/expand more aggressively early on which lets them hit broodlord/infestor faster and contest the middle of the map, where they can effectively reverse the roles of the races by sieging the Terran instead.

Better understanding of infestor usage helps there too as people are much more careful with them now (as they are with most of their engagements in general)


Pretty excellent explanation, thank you.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
November 14 2012 12:38 GMT
#1747
On November 14 2012 21:36 WhX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 21:34 Megabuster123 wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:31 Megabuster123 wrote:
Well I've officially lost all interest in all Non-Life games this GSL...>_>

says one with the MVP tag

I've always thought of Sniper as the shitty stand-in DRG...>_>



Sniper's been playing well consistently, while DRG might become nearly as inconsistent as Bomber (which would be heartbreaking)

And it's fear of that which makes me hate Sniper even more.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 14 2012 12:38 GMT
#1748
On November 14 2012 21:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 21:36 Asha` wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:32 Happygreek wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:29 MrCon wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:26 Happygreek wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:24 Adreme wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
Polt should've picked antiga...>_>

Or is Antiga not in the map pool?


Seems like peoples views on Antiga being a Terran heaven have evolved this season.


I've been befuddled by this all season. Why have the views shifted so much?

Because terran is 1-7 vs zerg on Antiga this season :D


I wonder how much of that is Zergs just playing well this season as opposed to Zergs figuring out the map. Needs more data!


Much of it is to do with the declining efficiency of hellion contains. In the past T could keep Z much more in check and then push on 2/2 to sieze control of the center of the map and effectively deny large parts of the map while picking off expansions and choking out the zerg. Nowadays Z are free to tech/expand more aggressively early on which lets them hit broodlord/infestor faster and contest the middle of the map, where they can effectively reverse the roles of the races by sieging the Terran instead.

Better understanding of infestor usage helps there too as people are much more careful with them now (as they are with most of their engagements in general)

Yeah that's a good analysis of modern games on Antiga, agreed 100%


I would still say Antiga is still good for Terran if zerg goes infestor because I dont think you can protect a 4th with infestor tech the way you can with mutas+creep to deny harass.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 14 2012 12:39 GMT
#1749
On November 14 2012 21:35 TheBB wrote:
Poll: Recommend Final Match game 2?

Yessir (11)
 
42%

Nosir (11)
 
42%

Maybe, sir (4)
 
15%

26 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 2?

(Vote): Yessir
(Vote): Nosir
(Vote): Maybe, sir


Poll: Recommend Final Match game 3?

Nosir (9)
 
47%

Yessir (5)
 
26%

Maybe, sir (5)
 
26%

19 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match game 3?

(Vote): Yessir
(Vote): Nosir
(Vote): Maybe, sir


http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
November 14 2012 12:40 GMT
#1750
On November 14 2012 21:38 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 21:36 WhX wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:34 Megabuster123 wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:31 Megabuster123 wrote:
Well I've officially lost all interest in all Non-Life games this GSL...>_>

says one with the MVP tag

I've always thought of Sniper as the shitty stand-in DRG...>_>



Sniper's been playing well consistently, while DRG might become nearly as inconsistent as Bomber (which would be heartbreaking)

And it's fear of that which makes me hate Sniper even more.


Don't close your heart, let him in.

:D
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 14 2012 12:41 GMT
#1751
On November 14 2012 21:38 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 21:36 WhX wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:34 Megabuster123 wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:31 Megabuster123 wrote:
Well I've officially lost all interest in all Non-Life games this GSL...>_>

says one with the MVP tag

I've always thought of Sniper as the shitty stand-in DRG...>_>



Sniper's been playing well consistently, while DRG might become nearly as inconsistent as Bomber (which would be heartbreaking)

And it's fear of that which makes me hate Sniper even more.

You should be happy! Team MVP!
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 12:42:48
November 14 2012 12:41 GMT
#1752
Funny to compare the 2 base all ins from game 1 and 2 in sniper vs polt series. Although i guess snipers build in game 2 isnt really an all in in the same sense.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 14 2012 12:41 GMT
#1753
On November 14 2012 21:37 phyre112 wrote:
I was like "wat? who is innovation?" for a minute there... did bogus not get the "don't change your name" speech from artosis?


Multiple times, last week.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
November 14 2012 12:42 GMT
#1754
fuck this 3 of my least favorite (if not hated) players in one half. Lets hope leenock wont make it tomorrow
Sedzz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia391 Posts
November 14 2012 12:42 GMT
#1755
No Polt!
Loganion
Profile Joined January 2012
51 Posts
November 14 2012 12:44 GMT
#1756
Polt got ez-ed ^^
I like turtles
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
November 14 2012 12:44 GMT
#1757
On November 14 2012 21:41 Fjodorov wrote:
Funny to compare the 2 base all ins from game 1 and 2 in sniper vs polt series. Although i guess snipers build in game 2 isnt really an all in in the same sense.


I kinda have to agree with your point here. :-)
Polt just choosed the wrong builds here though :o
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25727 Posts
November 14 2012 12:46 GMT
#1758
On November 14 2012 21:38 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 21:37 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:36 Asha` wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:32 Happygreek wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:29 MrCon wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:26 Happygreek wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:24 Adreme wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
Polt should've picked antiga...>_>

Or is Antiga not in the map pool?


Seems like peoples views on Antiga being a Terran heaven have evolved this season.


I've been befuddled by this all season. Why have the views shifted so much?

Because terran is 1-7 vs zerg on Antiga this season :D


I wonder how much of that is Zergs just playing well this season as opposed to Zergs figuring out the map. Needs more data!


Much of it is to do with the declining efficiency of hellion contains. In the past T could keep Z much more in check and then push on 2/2 to sieze control of the center of the map and effectively deny large parts of the map while picking off expansions and choking out the zerg. Nowadays Z are free to tech/expand more aggressively early on which lets them hit broodlord/infestor faster and contest the middle of the map, where they can effectively reverse the roles of the races by sieging the Terran instead.

Better understanding of infestor usage helps there too as people are much more careful with them now (as they are with most of their engagements in general)

Yeah that's a good analysis of modern games on Antiga, agreed 100%


I would still say Antiga is still good for Terran if zerg goes infestor because I dont think you can protect a 4th with infestor tech the way you can with mutas+creep to deny harass.

I think that's more the case with maps like Whirlwind judging from recent games, Antiga's 4ths are pretty exposed but the first 3 bases are all pretty defendable. Antiga's ebb and flow is largely dictated by control of the centre and Zergs better creep spread is allowing them to do that better of late.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 14 2012 12:48 GMT
#1759
I blame Fionn and opterown.

CURSED.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 14 2012 12:49 GMT
#1760
On November 14 2012 21:40 WhX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 21:38 Megabuster123 wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:36 WhX wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:34 Megabuster123 wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 14 2012 21:31 Megabuster123 wrote:
Well I've officially lost all interest in all Non-Life games this GSL...>_>

says one with the MVP tag

I've always thought of Sniper as the shitty stand-in DRG...>_>



Sniper's been playing well consistently, while DRG might become nearly as inconsistent as Bomber (which would be heartbreaking)

And it's fear of that which makes me hate Sniper even more.


Don't close your heart, let him in.

:D


Let him in!? Oh, you meant into his heart.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
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