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Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
November 14 2012 11:49 GMT
#1341
Ugh, Parting...I know the build failed, but you never win with anything else. Might as well try again. :/
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
November 14 2012 11:49 GMT
#1342
I always do this build on Entombed, I looooove it
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 11:51:34
November 14 2012 11:50 GMT
#1343
This looks like Seed's +3 180 blink push. Super good build.

EDIT: or not. Robo bay means itll probably be some semi-max push though.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 14 2012 11:50 GMT
#1344
Can someone please explain the Bogus victories? Were they timings or macro games?
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 14 2012 11:50 GMT
#1345
On November 14 2012 20:43 silent_owl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 20:41 Otolia wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:38 silent_owl wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:37 Otolia wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:35 AgentChaos wrote:
Lol wtf innovation won already. Did he cheese in all games or something

No, he was somewhat lucky but displayed Code S Terran mechanics both in macro and micro and his victory were clear. Nothing too innovative despite his name.


Oh you. So cute.

That's called objectivity.


Right. That's nice. Negativity is labelled as so many other things lately.

Anyway, nice hold by Sniper. Lol. But because of him, DK may not make any changes at all to that push.


Negativity ? Where did I express any negative critics ? No-freaking-where ! Stop chasing you own demons in everyone else.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 14 2012 11:50 GMT
#1346
On November 14 2012 20:49 Kettchup wrote:
Ugh, Parting...I know the build failed, but you never win with anything else. Might as well try again. :/

well this is a map specific super strong build as well
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 11:52:36
November 14 2012 11:51 GMT
#1347
On November 14 2012 20:48 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 20:46 Salteador Neo wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:44 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:42 Salteador Neo wrote:
Damn that build too imba. Zergs were right all along xD


It's not like protoss never beats zerg lategame either. It's a very strong build, just like zerg lategame is very strong. Doesn't mean it's unbeatable..


Except the build has failed miserably the last 9 out of 10 times.

And ZvP lategame is unbeatable if the zerg knows what he is doing really, even Nestea thinks so.


Parting had 100% winrate with this build before today. And it was obvious Sniper had practiced a lot to be able to beat that specific build. He knew what he had to do to beat it, probably been immortal allin by his teammates all week for this match.

The soul list before today was like parting + seed yes, 10 other protosses no. Recently the allin's been held more often than not.

Unrelated, I think that the +3 blink stalker near-max quasiallin is probably the best build on entombed.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
November 14 2012 11:51 GMT
#1348
Taking the third nexus this fast throws regular timings out the window completely.

I ALWAYS do this. Nice, parting. Making me look smart
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 11:52:28
November 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1349
In game 1 also Parting lost too much time to defend his pylons, which wasn't needed because he could park his warp prism over a cliff and be safe for queens sniping it (or at least the queens had to come very close to the army to snipe it). So he delayed and delayed for no real reason)
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
November 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1350
Kinda almost sounds like it was a semi blind counter from Sniper? Hatch first + fast +1 carapace and late roachwarren...
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1351
Immortal sentry allin fails?

GOGOGO collosi sentry allin.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
November 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1352
sniper really needs to scout the 2nd robo to react apporpriately
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1353
On November 14 2012 20:51 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 20:48 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:46 Salteador Neo wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:44 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:42 Salteador Neo wrote:
Damn that build too imba. Zergs were right all along xD


It's not like protoss never beats zerg lategame either. It's a very strong build, just like zerg lategame is very strong. Doesn't mean it's unbeatable..


Except the build has failed miserably the last 9 out of 10 times.

And ZvP lategame is unbeatable if the zerg knows what he is doing really, even Nestea thinks so.


Parting had 100% winrate with this build before today. And it was obvious Sniper had practiced a lot to be able to beat that specific build. He knew what he had to do to beat it, probably been immortal allin by his teammates all week for this match.

The soul list before today was like parting + seed yes, 10 other protosses no. Recently the allin's been held more often than not.

Unrelated, I think that the +3 blink stalker max quasiallin is probably the best build on entombed.

Daissyyyyy
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WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
November 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1354
On November 14 2012 20:44 sitromit wrote:
This is why the GSL is so amazing. You can tell Sniper's been practicing specifically to hold this push. It's not just random decisions he made.


Well, Parting's known for his push. His PvZ in general isn't special at all imo, he's pretty good but definitely not the best. As long as Sniper's able to hold the push, he can deal with Parting.
That's the disadvantage when an entire match-up revolves around one single build which is incredibly powerful (you gotta acknowledge his execution), but is predictable. Parting can benefit from this though; if an opponent plays incredibly safe because he anticipates a wonwonwon, Parting can and should play as greedy as possible.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1355
hyun crushed this sort of attack
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
November 14 2012 11:52 GMT
#1356
On November 14 2012 20:52 Cereb wrote:
Kinda almost sounds like it was a semi blind counter from Sniper? Hatch first + fast +1 carapace and late roachwarren...

I don't know if you can call it blind, but it was definitely as close as you can get to a hard-counter
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
November 14 2012 11:53 GMT
#1357
On November 14 2012 20:50 Plexa wrote:
This looks like Seed's +3 180 blink push. Super good build.

EDIT: or not. Robo bay means itll probably be some semi-max push though.


Yeah, it looked like that. Would've liked to see it...
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 11:53:41
November 14 2012 11:53 GMT
#1358
On November 14 2012 20:50 Incomplet wrote:
Can someone please explain the Bogus victories? Were they timings or macro games?


both, he just won every engagement he did today
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 14 2012 11:53 GMT
#1359
On November 14 2012 20:50 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 20:43 silent_owl wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:41 Otolia wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:38 silent_owl wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:37 Otolia wrote:
On November 14 2012 20:35 AgentChaos wrote:
Lol wtf innovation won already. Did he cheese in all games or something

No, he was somewhat lucky but displayed Code S Terran mechanics both in macro and micro and his victory were clear. Nothing too innovative despite his name.


Oh you. So cute.

That's called objectivity.


Right. That's nice. Negativity is labelled as so many other things lately.

Anyway, nice hold by Sniper. Lol. But because of him, DK may not make any changes at all to that push.


Negativity ? Where did I express any negative critics ? No-freaking-where ! Stop chasing you own demons in everyone else.


Relax, man. Sorry, I got a little too sarcastic. I was just kidding, okay? I don't understand though how you keep on dissing me for being A FAN.

Although I don't really know what demons you're talking about. Lol. I'm just poking fun. I'm sorry it got a little serious on your side.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 14 2012 11:54 GMT
#1360
On November 14 2012 20:52 WhX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 20:44 sitromit wrote:
This is why the GSL is so amazing. You can tell Sniper's been practicing specifically to hold this push. It's not just random decisions he made.


Well, Parting's known for his push. His PvZ in general isn't special at all imo, he's pretty good but definitely not the best. As long as Sniper's able to hold the push, he can deal with Parting.
That's the disadvantage when an entire match-up revolves around one single build which is incredibly powerful (you gotta acknowledge his execution), but is predictable. Parting can benefit from this though; if an opponent plays incredibly safe because he anticipates a wonwonwon, Parting can and should play as greedy as possible.


Back in the day, didn't people actually think Parting's PvZ was downright bad? Unsure though.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
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