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[Code S] RO16 Group C 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 22

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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 09:55:21
November 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#421
On November 14 2012 18:49 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:46 Heartland wrote:
Hard to say that the first game was a BO win. If Parting's army had been at home or engaged polt's main force in a decent position then it wouldn't have been clear cut that he'd have lost. BO win should be reserved for extremely clear cut cases, like building DT:s against someone with no detection. Otherwise the meaning of that term will just be entirely void and be used for people who win with fast three gate pressure against FE.


That was clearcut. That build was designed to bring a mass of units against a no tech protoss. Parting is famous for the 3nex build.

Had Polt been at home Polt would have defended with ease. Had Parting been at home he would have defended with ease too since he was going mass units too. That means there no BO win either way.

Polt got the better end of the "base trade" scenario though because of CCs being liftable. And thus being able to salvage the situation. Plus parting commited too much to getting up the ramp at Polts base. Leave a few sentries there, contain Polt in his main (cant get out with no medievacs), go home with the rest and clean up your base would likely won him the game. Nothing BO win with that.
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
November 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#422
On November 14 2012 18:54 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:52 Wintex wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:49 Fionn wrote:
Polt also now 16-1 when winning 1st set. That might be the best in GSL.

Fucking Ganzi.


I fucking i love you. cool statistics.

Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:51 opterown wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:49 Fionn wrote:
Polt also now 16-1 when winning 1st set. That might be the best in GSL.

Fucking Ganzi.

DRG is 16-0

oi, what about mine? T_T

Here, Have a cookie :p
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
November 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#423
Major said Bogus is the best in the world so this should be interesting how he comes out of it.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
November 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#424
On November 14 2012 18:53 Laryleprakon wrote:
I hope sniper wins with just infestors and the camera zooms in on David Kim!!


Hahahaha! Oh god the lulz would never end
KT FlaSh FOREVER
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#425
On November 14 2012 18:54 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:54 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:44 andaylin wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:43 Sedzz wrote:
I wish casters would stop putting so much emphasis on a player not playing his best, while this may be the case, you have to also factor in Polt completely outplayed PartinG in Game 1 (yes, it was a BO - that's still outplaying) you have to be kind of put on tilt considering you'd be so confident if you were PartinG, then you consider just how intelligent Polt played in Game 2, he was far smarter than PartinG and that's what led to PartinG making mistakes.

Build order win is not outplaying.


In the format of GSL where you know who you are playing and have time to prepare it can be. In the case of Parting where he is known for a certain style I would definetly say that Polt tailored that build to counter Partings style and thus i would say he oultplayed him.

He outstrategized him.


which in a rtS is fundamentally different of outplaying.
Zest fanboy.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
November 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#426
On November 14 2012 18:47 JJH777 wrote:
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On November 14 2012 18:44 StarVe wrote:
Recent GSL results are so strange sometimes. I feel like I don't have any clue how it's going to play out, so much inconsistency all around.


Yes it is pretty disappointing. Hopefully HotS makes it more possible for players to stay a step above others so we actually have people consistently getting ro4s. This year every season has been like an entirely new ro4. Only like MVP and DRG have got 2 ro4s.

At least we get some variation.. Please let's not make it like Tennis with every god damn grand slam having the same 4 players in the RO4 for the past 5 years..
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#427
at least liquipedia is updated

^_^
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#428
On November 14 2012 18:54 Fearest wrote:
was Bogus a Kespa seed?


No, he did it the hard way, straight from Code B.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#429
Sniper's record is buffed due to wins over Miso, Eve, Arthur, etc.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
November 14 2012 09:55 GMT
#430
On November 14 2012 18:54 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:44 andaylin wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:43 Sedzz wrote:
I wish casters would stop putting so much emphasis on a player not playing his best, while this may be the case, you have to also factor in Polt completely outplayed PartinG in Game 1 (yes, it was a BO - that's still outplaying) you have to be kind of put on tilt considering you'd be so confident if you were PartinG, then you consider just how intelligent Polt played in Game 2, he was far smarter than PartinG and that's what led to PartinG making mistakes.

Build order win is not outplaying.


In the format of GSL where you know who you are playing and have time to prepare it can be. In the case of Parting where he is known for a certain style I would definetly say that Polt tailored that build to counter Partings style and thus i would say he oultplayed him.


completely agree. he prepared better.
Stroke Me Lady Fame
gh0stsquall
Profile Joined March 2012
United States245 Posts
November 14 2012 09:56 GMT
#431
lol artosis is such a blizz suck up
www.twitch.tv/ghostsquall || www.twitter.com/gh0stlol
Krossfire
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
November 14 2012 09:56 GMT
#432
On November 14 2012 18:51 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:49 Fionn wrote:
Polt also now 16-1 when winning 1st set. That might be the best in GSL.

Fucking Ganzi.

DRG is 16-0


wish he kept that record in OSL too ><
For the Swarm * DRG *
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
November 14 2012 09:56 GMT
#433
Ok Bogus, time to see what you're made of as far as SC2 is worth.

Antiga Shipyard
00:00
Bogus spawns in the bottom right
Sniper spawns top left.

2:00
15 Hatch from Sniper
14 CC from Bogus
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 14 2012 09:56 GMT
#434
David Kim should have turned up tomorrow. Beach-ball wars all day erry day.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 14 2012 09:56 GMT
#435
On November 14 2012 18:55 Fionn wrote:
Sniper's record is buffed due to wins over Miso, Eve, Arthur, etc.


He deserves the 4 extra kills for taking out Yugioh that night.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 14 2012 09:56 GMT
#436
On November 14 2012 18:54 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:53 opterown wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:53 Dodgin wrote:
OP not updated?

OP afk for an hour or so


wish tlnet would let reputable peopple like yourself host these threads

the reason i didn't want to do today is so i don't burn out, making the OP every day is not something anyone can keep up really. people like thebb are excellent and i appreciate everyone who does this - it's not easy!
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 14 2012 09:56 GMT
#437
On November 14 2012 18:54 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:52 Wintex wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:49 Fionn wrote:
Polt also now 16-1 when winning 1st set. That might be the best in GSL.

Fucking Ganzi.


I fucking i love you. cool statistics.

Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 18:51 opterown wrote:
On November 14 2012 18:49 Fionn wrote:
Polt also now 16-1 when winning 1st set. That might be the best in GSL.

Fucking Ganzi.

DRG is 16-0

oi, what about mine? T_T

they're about 195% worse
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 14 2012 09:56 GMT
#438
Thats some funky capitalization in Innovation.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
November 14 2012 09:56 GMT
#439
On November 14 2012 18:54 Pwnzer wrote:
Just started watching, what happened in the first series?

Game one polt went 6rax against parting's fast 3 nexus. Semi-basetrade but parting failed to break polt, so he had to go home and try and clean up. Killed polt's army but lost natural. Then polt moved out and killed parting.

Game 2 polt had a scouted 11/11 rax, built an ebay at parting's natural and went home. Expanded (before parting), bunkered up, teched, took a third, then managed to deny parting's third and his eco advantage and partings subpar (for parting) micro built up to a big supply advantage for polt, which he used to win the game.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 14 2012 09:57 GMT
#440
btw thanks Fionn for your prediction against Polt <3
Zest fanboy.
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