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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 23:37:02
November 11 2012 23:34 GMT
#41
So I'm doing the math right now. MC is guaranteed 7th or 8th place, he's in the playoffs. If DeMusliM wins, Sen, finale, and DeMusliM are in the playoffs from Division 5. If DeMusliM loses, he's in the wildcards and Oz and Arthur play a tiebreaker for the final playoff spot. If NightEnD wins, him, Galaxy and TT1 have to play a tiebreaker to remain in the league. If NightEnD loses, he's out of the league. ALL THE THINGS DEPEND ON DEMUSLIM VS. NIGHTEND.
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
November 11 2012 23:41 GMT
#42
DeMusliM 2-0 NightEnD
qxc 1-2 DIMAGA
Sen 0-2 finale
MMA 2-1 Stephano
Oz 2-0 ClouD
TLO 2-0 ClouD
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
November 11 2012 23:47 GMT
#43
On November 12 2012 08:31 ibo422 wrote:
This might help to clarify my previous post.
Show nested quote +
Original Message From NASL.tv:
Hello.

Our standings are very simple

a 2-0 win gives a player 2 points, a 2-1 win gives a player 1 point, a 1-2 loss gives a player -1 point, and a 0-2 loss give a player -2 points.

The standings are by total points.

I hope this helps to clarify. If you have any further questions, please direct them to admin@nasl.tv

Thank you.

Original Message From ibo422:
Hello

I was updating liquipedia till I noticed the standings were calculated differently with your site. On NASL site you guys take the difference between games won and games lost to calculate the standings (regardless of matches won/lost). On liquipedia the players were sorted on matches won then games won (regardless of mathes lost and games lost). Any clarification on this so we don't misinform everyone that's using liquipedia? Thanks.

Greetings

Ibo


I just spoke with the person who originally sent you that PM in October. Standing are by record, then total points. It was a miss-communication, sorry for the confusion.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
November 11 2012 23:49 GMT
#44
You need to update the OP... Wasn't Sheth vs. T-funk rescheduled from yesterday to today?
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 11 2012 23:50 GMT
#45
On November 12 2012 08:20 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 08:17 NASL.tv wrote:
On November 12 2012 08:15 ibo422 wrote:
And yeah, this is what I was afraid of. The standing were decided by total points (games won minus games lost) the whole season and at the end it's the match record that gets ahead of the total points...


What do you mean? Record always comes before points (wins minus losses), points are for tiebreaks if their records are the same.


He means the people that have been editing liquipedia are stupid. edit - What I mean by this is I just edited switching LoWeLy and Strelok in division 3. LoWeLy had less points but a better match record so the editors thought he was last place in the group.


Yeah I don't know who started doing it that way, it started happening during the few weeks I wasn't paying attention.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
November 11 2012 23:55 GMT
#46
So if nightend defeats Demuslim 2-0 we could have a 3 way tie for the last elimination spot?
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 00:03:07
November 12 2012 00:01 GMT
#47
Indeed and demuslim would lose the direct seed to the main event and goes to wild cards instead.

On November 12 2012 08:50 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 08:20 Elite_ wrote:
On November 12 2012 08:17 NASL.tv wrote:
On November 12 2012 08:15 ibo422 wrote:
And yeah, this is what I was afraid of. The standing were decided by total points (games won minus games lost) the whole season and at the end it's the match record that gets ahead of the total points...


What do you mean? Record always comes before points (wins minus losses), points are for tiebreaks if their records are the same.


He means the people that have been editing liquipedia are stupid. edit - What I mean by this is I just edited switching LoWeLy and Strelok in division 3. LoWeLy had less points but a better match record so the editors thought he was last place in the group.


Yeah I don't know who started doing it that way, it started happening during the few weeks I wasn't paying attention.

I did according to the info I got after week 3 orso.

On November 12 2012 08:47 NASL.tv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 08:31 ibo422 wrote:
This might help to clarify my previous post.
Original Message From NASL.tv:
Hello.

Our standings are very simple

a 2-0 win gives a player 2 points, a 2-1 win gives a player 1 point, a 1-2 loss gives a player -1 point, and a 0-2 loss give a player -2 points.

The standings are by total points.

I hope this helps to clarify. If you have any further questions, please direct them to admin@nasl.tv

Thank you.

Original Message From ibo422:
Hello

I was updating liquipedia till I noticed the standings were calculated differently with your site. On NASL site you guys take the difference between games won and games lost to calculate the standings (regardless of matches won/lost). On liquipedia the players were sorted on matches won then games won (regardless of mathes lost and games lost). Any clarification on this so we don't misinform everyone that's using liquipedia? Thanks.

Greetings

Ibo


I just spoke with the person who originally sent you that PM in October. Standing are by record, then total points. It was a miss-communication, sorry for the confusion.

Oh well, shit happens. No big deal.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
November 12 2012 00:11 GMT
#48
It would be hilarious if the Offline Round of 8 was Polt, Hyun & Symbol.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 12 2012 00:13 GMT
#49
Since there is no WCS event at this NASL, is there going to be 16 people again, or just 8?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 00:29:51
November 12 2012 00:21 GMT
#50
MMA Stephano reschedule... TT

edit - did more math, DRG and HwangSin aren't in wildcards. 0% chance. Sheth wins = Sheth wildcards, sheth loses = Ryung, PuMa, & loser of MMA/Stephano tiebreaker.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
November 12 2012 00:29 GMT
#51
why is there symbol vs sortof running right now? i dont see it on the schedule.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
November 12 2012 00:30 GMT
#52
On November 12 2012 09:29 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
why is there symbol vs sortof running right now? i dont see it on the schedule.

because it's part of the open tournament that has been going on before the normal broadcast all week(?)
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
November 12 2012 00:32 GMT
#53
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League_Season_4/Open_Tournament
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 00:58:55
November 12 2012 00:56 GMT
#54
On November 12 2012 09:21 Elite_ wrote:
MMA Stephano reschedule... TT

edit - did more math, DRG and HwangSin aren't in wildcards. 0% chance. Sheth wins = Sheth wildcards, sheth loses = Ryung, PuMa, & loser of MMA/Stephano tiebreaker.


That wouldn't make sense because all MMA Stephano does is shift seeds in the top 12, it doesn't knock anyone out. Even though the loser of MMA/Stephano will be at +1 it doesn't move anyone out of the top 12 because they're both above hwangsin and DRG (the ones tied for the last spot right now) in the first place. It all depends on Sheth losing to Thorzain because if Sheth loses 0-2 it's a tie between Hwangsin & DRG, and if sheth loses 2-1, it's a 3-way tie between sheth, hwangsin, and DRG, right?
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 01:07:15
November 12 2012 01:05 GMT
#55
On November 12 2012 09:56 NASL.tv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 09:21 Elite_ wrote:
MMA Stephano reschedule... TT

edit - did more math, DRG and HwangSin aren't in wildcards. 0% chance. Sheth wins = Sheth wildcards, sheth loses = Ryung, PuMa, & loser of MMA/Stephano tiebreaker.


That wouldn't make sense because all MMA Stephano does is shift seeds in the top 12, it doesn't knock anyone out. Even though the loser of MMA/Stephano will be at +1 it doesn't move anyone out of the top 12 because they're both above hwangsin and DRG (the ones tied for the last spot right now) in the first place. It all depends on Sheth losing to Thorzain because if Sheth loses 0-2 it's a tie between Hwangsin & DRG, and if sheth loses 2-1, it's a 3-way tie between sheth, hwangsin, and DRG, right?


I'm looking at it as If DeMusliM beats NightEnD because I see it more likely than NightEnD winning, making Arthur and Oz behind DeMusliM, finale, and Sen, making them the top 2 spots in wildcards and DeMusliM/finale/Sen top 8/in playoffs... and Stephano/MMA losing makes them 4-4 +1 score tied with PuMa/Ryung... Does this make more sense now, hopefully?

edit - When I looked at this it all depends on map score of the matches... PuMa/Ryung will be out if MMA/Stephano is 2-1 either way... @_@
NASL.tv
Profile Joined April 2011
699 Posts
November 12 2012 01:08 GMT
#56
On November 12 2012 10:05 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 09:56 NASL.tv wrote:
On November 12 2012 09:21 Elite_ wrote:
MMA Stephano reschedule... TT

edit - did more math, DRG and HwangSin aren't in wildcards. 0% chance. Sheth wins = Sheth wildcards, sheth loses = Ryung, PuMa, & loser of MMA/Stephano tiebreaker.


That wouldn't make sense because all MMA Stephano does is shift seeds in the top 12, it doesn't knock anyone out. Even though the loser of MMA/Stephano will be at +1 it doesn't move anyone out of the top 12 because they're both above hwangsin and DRG (the ones tied for the last spot right now) in the first place. It all depends on Sheth losing to Thorzain because if Sheth loses 0-2 it's a tie between Hwangsin & DRG, and if sheth loses 2-1, it's a 3-way tie between sheth, hwangsin, and DRG, right?


I'm looking at it as If DeMusliM beats NightEnD because I see it more likely than NightEnD winning, making Arthur and Oz behind DeMusliM, finale, and Sen, making them the top 2 spots in wildcards and DeMusliM/finale/Sen top 8/in playoffs... and Stephano/MMA losing makes them 4-4 +1 score tied with PuMa/Ryung... Does this make more sense now, hopefully?

edit - When I looked at this it all depends on map score of the matches... PuMa/Ryung will be out if MMA/Stephano is 2-1 either way... @_@



My brain D:
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 01:25:13
November 12 2012 01:15 GMT
#57
On November 12 2012 10:08 NASL.tv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 10:05 Elite_ wrote:
On November 12 2012 09:56 NASL.tv wrote:
On November 12 2012 09:21 Elite_ wrote:
MMA Stephano reschedule... TT

edit - did more math, DRG and HwangSin aren't in wildcards. 0% chance. Sheth wins = Sheth wildcards, sheth loses = Ryung, PuMa, & loser of MMA/Stephano tiebreaker.


That wouldn't make sense because all MMA Stephano does is shift seeds in the top 12, it doesn't knock anyone out. Even though the loser of MMA/Stephano will be at +1 it doesn't move anyone out of the top 12 because they're both above hwangsin and DRG (the ones tied for the last spot right now) in the first place. It all depends on Sheth losing to Thorzain because if Sheth loses 0-2 it's a tie between Hwangsin & DRG, and if sheth loses 2-1, it's a 3-way tie between sheth, hwangsin, and DRG, right?


I'm looking at it as If DeMusliM beats NightEnD because I see it more likely than NightEnD winning, making Arthur and Oz behind DeMusliM, finale, and Sen, making them the top 2 spots in wildcards and DeMusliM/finale/Sen top 8/in playoffs... and Stephano/MMA losing makes them 4-4 +1 score tied with PuMa/Ryung... Does this make more sense now, hopefully?

edit - When I looked at this it all depends on map score of the matches... PuMa/Ryung will be out if MMA/Stephano is 2-1 either way... @_@



My brain D:


Sorry... I'm stupid... I was thinking only 12 players made wildcards... It's 14... but yeah, it will be a PuMa/Ryung/[MMA/Stephano(if 2-0)] tie breaker for the top 2 of those 3 for a wildcard spot anyways... but yeah, 100% chance of a tie breaker involving Ryung vs. PuMa.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 12 2012 01:23 GMT
#58
Yesssssss SortOf! Good shit bro, finish it off.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
November 12 2012 01:42 GMT
#59
Wow, well done SortOf & Golden.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 02:19:06
November 12 2012 02:14 GMT
#60
I don't blame Golden for saying his bracket was easy... After looking at his opponents compared to SortOf's... Top half of the bracket IMBA.

Here we go. NightEnD loses one game TT1 and Galaxy are guaranteed to stay in the league and NightEnD is out!
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