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Roth
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany165 Posts
November 07 2012 09:48 GMT
#361
And remember - Nydus can't be cancelled.
Day[9] - "That stupid ice cream truck representing happiness!"
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 07 2012 09:48 GMT
#362
On November 07 2012 18:48 akalarry wrote:
i thought david browder said terran is supposed to have the advantage in the early game. i'm pretty sure i've seen 10x more games won by zerg in the early game

well if you dont scout your base and you get nydused then that advantage goes away doesn't it?
Maruprime.
alainysaur
Profile Joined September 2012
United States131 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#363
On November 07 2012 18:47 zul wrote:
I hope GomTV sticks with twitch.TV and their 540+ freestream quality and I will watch GSL again in the future.


I paid $20+ for this season .. then this free thing happens ... -facepalm-
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#364
On November 07 2012 18:46 Sc2Null wrote:
so if leenock and sniper advances...ro16 will be 50% zerg...getting my bowl ready to soak up the whine that is too follow if thta happens


Korean Zergs are just more skilled!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#365
Oh common guys, I'm Terrand and there's nothing to whine about this game.
You deserve to lose if you let a Nydus go up in your main, seriously. x)
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#366
On November 07 2012 18:48 bittman wrote:
Ehhhh, I was all like "This music sucks"

Then the rock started.

And it's worse =(


It really comes out of fucking nowhere. Gom continues to troll us all.

What's next? Nickelback?
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Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#367
On November 07 2012 18:47 zul wrote:
I hope GomTV sticks with twitch.TV and their 540+ freestream quality and I will watch GSL again in the future.

I'm sure they would, if they didn't like money. Unfortunately, they like money.
Day9notdead
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation501 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#368
On November 07 2012 18:48 akalarry wrote:
i thought david browder said terran is supposed to have the advantage in the early game. i'm pretty sure i've seen 10x more games won by zerg in the early game

He was talking about proxy 11/11 ... I suppose :D
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#369
On November 07 2012 18:48 akalarry wrote:
i thought david browder said terran is supposed to have the advantage in the early game. i'm pretty sure i've seen 10x more games won by zerg in the early game

Balances out Terran's late game advantage.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33488 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#370
On November 07 2012 18:48 Fionn wrote:
i wonder how chae would feel about flying 70+ staff members to do a semifinals consisting of four zergs.


I think Creator can make it, as long as he remembers he's only allowed to do 3-base timings, no games over 18 mins or shit like that
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#371
On November 07 2012 18:46 Fionn wrote:
the whole kespa vs. esf war kinda becomes moot when players who are 15 to 17 like Life, Creator and Leenock are going to be the ones who beat up everyone.


So true.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#372
On November 07 2012 18:48 akalarry wrote:
i thought david browder said terran is supposed to have the advantage in the early game. i'm pretty sure i've seen 10x more games won by zerg in the early game


Terran might not have all ins that are as good as Zergs, but the core units all do fine through the early and mid game.
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 09:50:24
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#373
On November 07 2012 18:48 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 18:47 DigitalDevil wrote:
On November 07 2012 18:45 Zeon0 wrote:
On November 07 2012 18:43 Snowbear wrote:
It's sick hard to hold these kind of allins as terran, and even if you hold it's like most of the time cost inneficient.

yeah, putting a depot at the edge of your base it pretty hard ...

Seriously, if he had spotted the nydus before it finished, that would have been the end of the cheese before it even started. Leenock saw an opportunity and exploited it.


pretty sure leenock couldve won if he put a nydus in front of the natural after


This. The combination of roach and queens destroys banshee hellion. Terran can go tank and skip banshee hellion, but then he will be bading in creep very fast.

Anyone ideas?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#374
On November 07 2012 18:49 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 18:48 Fionn wrote:
i wonder how chae would feel about flying 70+ staff members to do a semifinals consisting of four zergs.


I think Creator can make it, as long as he remembers he's only allowed to do 3-base timings, no games over 18 mins or shit like that

Parting riding the soul plane to Vegas
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Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#375
On November 07 2012 18:47 Day9notdead wrote:
1 thing didn't make sense to me is that he researched roach speed.. burrow and burrow movement would be better with nydus I think.. But I guess that was just his backup plan if nydus fails


Burrowed roaches have become Leenock's bread and butter in every matchup
DigitalDevil
Profile Joined October 2011
219 Posts
November 07 2012 09:49 GMT
#376
On November 07 2012 18:48 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 18:47 DigitalDevil wrote:
On November 07 2012 18:45 Zeon0 wrote:
On November 07 2012 18:43 Snowbear wrote:
It's sick hard to hold these kind of allins as terran, and even if you hold it's like most of the time cost inneficient.

yeah, putting a depot at the edge of your base it pretty hard ...

Seriously, if he had spotted the nydus before it finished, that would have been the end of the cheese before it even started. Leenock saw an opportunity and exploited it.


pretty sure leenock couldve won if he put a nydus in front of the natural after

No, that's why the bunker is there. If he tries to attack only at the front door, there is only one place to defend and more bunkers would go up accordingly.
Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
November 07 2012 09:50 GMT
#377
On November 07 2012 18:47 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 18:46 Chill Penguin wrote:
On November 07 2012 18:44 .kv wrote:
Leenock did that build against Bomber at MLG Dallas


Yep, clearly didn't prepare very well. When I saw the map was entombed, I was very curious to see if he would spread his depots to cover all the corners of his base in response to his nydus on Bomber. I guess not.

to be fair that game was probably played at 4am KST and VODs from MLG aren't out yet


I don't necessarily blame Bogus for this one, but rather the coaches on STX. Surely they would research this stuff? Also that game was right around lunch.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 07 2012 09:50 GMT
#378
On November 07 2012 18:48 haka wrote:
bogus deserved to lose that. seriously, how are can players not have vision of their entire base?


It's pretty common for players not to have vision of their entire main...
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 07 2012 09:50 GMT
#379
On November 07 2012 18:49 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 18:49 Waxangel wrote:
On November 07 2012 18:48 Fionn wrote:
i wonder how chae would feel about flying 70+ staff members to do a semifinals consisting of four zergs.


I think Creator can make it, as long as he remembers he's only allowed to do 3-base timings, no games over 18 mins or shit like that

Parting riding the soul plane to Vegas

2 protoss in ro16? no worries, PvZ semis and PvP finals!
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TL+ Member
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 07 2012 09:50 GMT
#380
On November 07 2012 18:47 Alhoon wrote:
I don't understand the fuss. If you don't scout your own base, you will lose to Nydus, proxy pylon or similar. That wasn't Leenocks greatness, it was blatant mistake by bogus. Still takes balls to do something like that, and it's pretty entertaining so props for that to Leenock. Also the roach speed didn't make any sense.


The roach speed is for the transition. Note that Bogus nearly had enough (although he did take significant damage) and the game could have gone on longer.
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