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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
November 04 2012 19:12 GMT
#3241
Life gonna do work!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3242
On November 05 2012 04:11 Wombat_NI wrote:
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On November 05 2012 04:11 TheSir wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:10 Noocta wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:09 jnd wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:08 Dyme wrote:
Life is gonna win hard

Flash is not Taeja, he won't let that happen.


Flash is probably worse a TvZ than TaeJa, even with TaeJa being injured. /:


and thats based on what?

Taeja's frankly ridiculous TvZ?


It's not that impressive. Major had way closer games with life than Taeja did.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3243
On November 05 2012 04:10 Dyme wrote:
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On November 05 2012 04:08 lolmlg wrote:
Guys, what happened to Daisy? HwangSin got a walkover, how come?

Daisy no-show.

Any word on why? Traffic or something?
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3244
On November 05 2012 04:11 AlternativeEgo wrote:
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On November 05 2012 04:10 CursedRich wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:08 YourHarry wrote:
God created life on Days 1-6. But today is Sunday


LOL awesome!!!!


(I don't get it)


because it doesn't make much sense lol

so life is already created, why is that supposed to be funny?
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3245
On November 05 2012 04:12 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Life is 15, I wonder if he even knows much about Flash and BW


If you play PC games in Korea, you know who Flash is
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3246
On November 05 2012 04:13 hitpoint wrote:
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On November 05 2012 04:11 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:11 TheSir wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:10 Noocta wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:09 jnd wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:08 Dyme wrote:
Life is gonna win hard

Flash is not Taeja, he won't let that happen.


Flash is probably worse a TvZ than TaeJa, even with TaeJa being injured. /:


and thats based on what?

Taeja's frankly ridiculous TvZ?


It's not that impressive. Major had way closer games with life than Taeja did.


TaeJa never got to play Life before his injury
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3247
On November 05 2012 04:10 Angry.Zerg wrote:
I'm really sorry, but as much as we want Flash to win.... it's a Code A guy vs the GSL Champion. It won't happen.


aw cmon flash is AT LEAST at a code S gatekeeper's skill level, and has the makings to be a true SC2 champion.

i still think hes going to get rolololed over by life though....
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3248
On November 05 2012 04:07 Fjodorov wrote:
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On November 05 2012 04:06 Diavlo wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:02 Pandain wrote:
TvZ would be alright even with infestor ling if Blizzard hadn't patched queens, it was totally out of the blue, a year late, and retarded.

Problem is terran's can't punish greed with the amount of creep out on the map (Z wasn't balanced around mass creep being free).

That game could've been even more exciting and close if creep wasn't so prevelent.

The queen/overlord change was very good. It prevented a lot of retarded all-ins that took little to no skill.

Now they just need to adjust the balance in the late game to get TvZ more exciting.

Balancing the game so that one race has the advantage early and the disadvantage in the late game was always the wrong way to approach things.



Blizzard has stated that they are fine with TvP being played out like that though.

They also think that Protoss is weak in the early game...


On November 05 2012 04:03 Noocta wrote:
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On November 05 2012 04:01 veKtory wrote:
And this is why Zergs go Infestors, there's no efficient way to deal with well split Marines without them shown in that game.


There is :

Creep spread so baneling dodging is harder
Flanking
Counter attacking
Baneling mines

Basic RTS skill overall you know ?
Zerg complain that they lost every TvZ before the Infestor buff but all they did was engaging from one angle in the middle of the map all the time :/


They lost every ZvT because Terran got too good at defending against the only style that existed at the time.
You can definitely see the moment DRG/IdrA began to lose a shit ton of ZvT while going for standard muta-ling-bling (at the time of NASL2) when they had a very good winrate before that.

Now that Terrans can't just assume the Zerg is going to play Mutas, the style is actually coming back successfully.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 19:14:00
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3249
On November 05 2012 04:12 SupLilSon wrote:
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On November 05 2012 04:11 rd wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:10 Angry.Zerg wrote:
I'm really sorry, but as much as we want Flash to win.... it's a Code A guy vs the GSL Champion. It won't happen.


Wasn't that the same story in Life vs MVP?

No?


Yes? MVP was champion, Life was making his debut. Not the same but pretty similar.
Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3250
On November 05 2012 04:12 bo1b wrote:
People actually think that Flash is already better then Taeja?


"Better" is hard to quantify, but with Taeja looking un-Taeja-like this weekend and Flash looking pretty good, I think it's fair to say that at this moment.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3251
On November 05 2012 04:12 ZerglingTwins wrote:
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On November 05 2012 04:12 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Life is 15, I wonder if he even knows much about Flash and BW


No koreans don't know about BW and Flash.


Second hand sure, I mean did he watch it etc.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3252
So much whining is pathetic. You guys realize that Bomber hasn't even made it past the first round of Code S in over a year right? In fact in the past year he has only been in 3 seasons of Code S and all 3 times he got eliminated 0-2 in his group. He hasn't won any foreign events either. He is not a top tier Terran anymore. Leenock is the number 2 zerg in the world.
Angry.Zerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico305 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3253
On November 05 2012 04:11 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 04:10 Angry.Zerg wrote:
I'm really sorry, but as much as we want Flash to win.... it's a Code A guy vs the GSL Champion. It won't happen.


Wasn't that the same story in Life vs MVP?


As far as I can remember... GSL finals are just Code S guys. So no, it is not the same story. Life had to climb to Code S and defeat everyone else in Code S.
You play to win
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 19:15:06
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3254
I'd be really surprised if Flash managed to win one game. The way Life has been playing i don't think a terran will win against him no matter what. Need Rain or ZvZ sillyness to make Life lose
IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
392 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3255
On November 05 2012 04:06 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 04:02 Pandain wrote:
TvZ would be alright even with infestor ling if Blizzard hadn't patched queens, it was totally out of the blue, a year late, and retarded.

Problem is terran's can't punish greed with the amount of creep out on the map (Z wasn't balanced around mass creep being free).

That game could've been even more exciting and close if creep wasn't so prevelent.

The queen/overlord change was very good. It prevented a lot of retarded all-ins that took little to no skill.

Now they just need to adjust the balance in the late game to get TvZ more exciting.

Balancing the game so that one race has the advantage early and the disadvantage in the late game was always the wrong way to approach things.


I really disagree. The Overlord change while I would say mostly positive, I heavily dislike the Queen change. The potential for early aggression was key in limiting the greed from zergs. It created a more exciting mid game imo as the power behind the two armies wasn't instantly supported by 3 bases. While no other zerg units got buffs, the speed at which zerg is now getting 3 bases saturated and producing an army is faster, and terran doesn't have a good way of punishing it. Even as a zerg player I don't enjoy the new meta the change provided, and I feel the Overlord change made scouting a potential terran all inn very possible where as before it was very hard to know which all in to prepare for.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3256
On November 05 2012 04:07 Fragile51 wrote:
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On November 05 2012 04:05 samurai80 wrote:
On November 05 2012 04:02 HotShizz wrote:
most disappointing MLG ever as far as results go... bitter nerd tears pouring out over here T-T

u mean as far as terrans go ? I mean seriously, don't be so biased.

As far as terrans go i'd say MLG is looking pretty good lol, just look at the championships bracket.

Well you're right, though I guess Bomber and Taeja loosing has disappointed a few persons here. Life, Leenock and Rain are looking really good right now. Flash is still here, he will be the key terran imo.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3257
I don't think I've seen Flash play before. Should be interesting to see if he delivers or not.
CapnAmerica
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States508 Posts
November 04 2012 19:13 GMT
#3258
Eddie Murphy vs Eminem after 40 candy bars on the fighter stream.
After all this time, I still haven't figured out the correlation between sexual orientation and beating an unprepared opponent. Are homosexuals the next koreans? Many players seem to think it's an unfair advantage. - pandaburn
nebula.
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Sweden1431 Posts
November 04 2012 19:14 GMT
#3259
On November 05 2012 04:12 ZerglingTwins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 04:12 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Life is 15, I wonder if he even knows much about Flash and BW


No koreans don't know about BW and Flash.


one of the most easily misread posts in a long time
I miss you July ~~~ I was in PonyTales #7 wooho!
Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
November 04 2012 19:14 GMT
#3260
LIfe simply doesn't look beatable in ZvT. Even the might of MVP preparing against him in a bo7 wasn't quite enough to beat him. Taeja, one of the best TvZer's can't even seem to take a single game off of him in tournaments.

It's hard to judge Flash's current TvZ skill level after watching so few games, but if he manages to beat Life then he truly is a God.
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