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mandigal
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany231 Posts
November 02 2012 10:35 GMT
#381
If Rain would have made 2 more ravens instead of 20 Vikings which were mostly useless he could have traded so much better in all the little fights. Instead most of his tanks died to Marauders before the siege animation was finished.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 02 2012 10:35 GMT
#382
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote:
I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.

If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.

What do you mean by do more with Puma?
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 02 2012 10:36 GMT
#383
On November 02 2012 19:34 Fionn wrote:
I wonder if MMA is invited to the Slayers Funereal tomorrow.

I think the match tomorrow will close by the ex-slayers players beating up alicia and MMA.
Glorious SEA doto
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 02 2012 10:36 GMT
#384
On November 02 2012 19:34 andaylin wrote:
Did Byul name himself after Byul?


Byul means "star" in korea, afaik.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
November 02 2012 10:36 GMT
#385
On November 02 2012 19:35 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote:
I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.

If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.

What do you mean by do more with Puma?


he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 02 2012 10:36 GMT
#386
On November 02 2012 19:35 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote:
I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.

If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.

What do you mean by do more with Puma?

PuMa stopped being good when he started to practice at the SlayerS house.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 02 2012 10:36 GMT
#387
People forget how big Puma was.

We had a fucking 300+ thread about him changing teams.

Now if he left EG, I predict we would have a 15 page thread at most.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
November 02 2012 10:36 GMT
#388
What is this intermittent song? I must know!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 02 2012 10:37 GMT
#389
On November 02 2012 19:36 Fionn wrote:
People forget how big Puma was.

We had a fucking 300+ thread about him changing teams.

Now if he left EG, I predict we would have a 15 page thread at most.

That's because sc2 is dead though
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
November 02 2012 10:37 GMT
#390
On November 02 2012 19:36 Fionn wrote:
People forget how big Puma was.

We had a fucking 300+ thread about him changing teams.

Now if he left EG, I predict we would have a 15 page thread at most.


300 pages for drama between EG and TSL, no one cares about PuMa
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
November 02 2012 10:37 GMT
#391
On November 02 2012 19:36 julianto wrote:
What is this intermittent song? I must know!


opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 02 2012 10:37 GMT
#392
On November 02 2012 19:36 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 19:34 Fionn wrote:
I wonder if MMA is invited to the Slayers Funereal tomorrow.

I think the match tomorrow will close by the ex-slayers players beating up alicia and MMA.

yugioh starting match
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 02 2012 10:37 GMT
#393
On November 02 2012 19:36 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 19:35 andaylin wrote:
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote:
I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.

If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.

What do you mean by do more with Puma?


he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star

Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 02 2012 10:37 GMT
#394
On November 02 2012 19:36 Fionn wrote:
People forget how big Puma was.

We had a fucking 300+ thread about him changing teams.

Now if he left EG, I predict we would have a 15 page thread at most.


shit you're right

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245970

360 pages

BACK WHEN SC2 WAS STILL ALIVE *nostalgia glasses*
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 02 2012 10:37 GMT
#395
On November 02 2012 19:36 Fionn wrote:
People forget how big Puma was.

We had a fucking 300+ thread about him changing teams.

Now if he left EG, I predict we would have a 15 page thread at most.


It's quite disappointing to see how far he's fallen. He's still decently good though.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 02 2012 10:37 GMT
#396
On November 02 2012 19:36 Fionn wrote:
People forget how big Puma was.

We had a fucking 300+ thread about him changing teams.

Now if he left EG, I predict we would have a 15 page thread at most.


Then again the circumstances under which he left TSL were very very controversial and drama-filled, that's going to spring up a couple hundred pages of discussion and turd-flinging.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 02 2012 10:37 GMT
#397
On November 02 2012 19:37 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 19:36 Fusilero wrote:
On November 02 2012 19:34 Fionn wrote:
I wonder if MMA is invited to the Slayers Funereal tomorrow.

I think the match tomorrow will close by the ex-slayers players beating up alicia and MMA.

yugioh starting match

I guess he thinks he looks ok for the camera now?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 02 2012 10:38 GMT
#398
If Slayers wins tomorrow can't they still play another game?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 02 2012 10:38 GMT
#399
On November 02 2012 19:37 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 19:36 Fionn wrote:
People forget how big Puma was.

We had a fucking 300+ thread about him changing teams.

Now if he left EG, I predict we would have a 15 page thread at most.


300 pages for drama between EG and TSL, no one cares about PuMa


People cared about Puma for a bit after he won NASL. He was supposed to be the next Terran great because HE WAS A PRACTICE PARTNER OF FLAAAAAAAAAASH.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 02 2012 10:39 GMT
#400
On November 02 2012 19:37 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 19:36 Waxangel wrote:
On November 02 2012 19:35 andaylin wrote:
On November 02 2012 19:33 Waxangel wrote:
I just wonder, I mean, why couldn't EG do more with PuMa? he was an AMAZING player who got a lot of spotlight because he fucking forced himself on the medal podium every tournament. Even if they get MMA, he's never going to match what PuMa did in 2011.

If they're really planning on paying MMA, I hope that means they've learned from their experiences with JYP and PuMa and have figured out how to market Korean players.

What do you mean by do more with Puma?


he was a great player and constantly present on the international stage, yet they never turned him into a marketable star

Yeah, but his personality isn't exactly marketable.

Tbh JYP is more marketable than puma he's already got built up joke/reputation with JYPvT and he seems more outgoing than puma.
Glorious SEA doto
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