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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#941
Feel bad fro asd
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
October 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#942
Beautiful storm.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#943
hurray parting still alive
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 24 2012 12:36 GMT
#944
Poll: Recommend asd vs. PartinG?

Yes (11)
 
85%

Maybe (2)
 
15%

No (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend asd vs. PartinG?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Maybe

ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 24 2012 12:37 GMT
#945
Anyone else feel ASD made the same mistakes he did vs Shine?
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
October 24 2012 12:37 GMT
#946
I don't know if asd understands the game strategically - he can't afford a 200/200 vs 200/200 battle like this in TvP - he needs to force engagements much earlier
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 24 2012 12:37 GMT
#947
On October 24 2012 21:32 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 21:28 vthree wrote:
On October 24 2012 21:21 Kasaraki wrote:
On October 24 2012 21:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Elephants 0-5 in U&Ds D: luckily mastodons bring up their win rate
is it the lack of prep time?


I think so. Kespa players are 1) really good at preparing, and 2) they had a lot of free time to do so earlier. A lot of them spent weeks/days preparing against an opponent who maybe went to foreign tournaments or prepared for a GSTL match in the meantime, so they had a clear upper hand. On top of that, they had resources to study whereas their opponent would be in the dark.


Also, for U&D, you have to play all 3 matchups/opponents so that cuts into prep time. Another factor could be that eSF players aren't as focused on playing the Kespa player. So they feel less nervous (although I am not sure whether this 'Kespa fear' actually existed). But I think both sides are getting used to it.

And there's the fact that the kespa players we've seen in up&downs are up&comers without any prior individual league success & so obviously feeling huge pressure


This is a good point.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 12:47:41
October 24 2012 12:37 GMT
#948
On October 24 2012 21:31 Yello wrote:
asd vs Parting

Cloud Kingdom
Parting starts as the blue Protoss in the top right, asd starts as the orange Terran in the bottom left.

missed the beginning of the game but looks like fast 3 Orbitals for asd and fast-expand for Parting, getting additional gates and Robo.

8:00min
Parting goes for a fast Robotics Support Bay and +1 armor upgrade, asd moves out with a bunch of Marine-Marauder with Stim and Combat Shields while starting double-upgrades and Starport back at home

10:00min
asd doesn't commit to an attack and backs off. Parting takes his third, asd floats his third CC down as well.
asd is still poking with his Marine-Marauder force at Partings front and Parting catches a bunch of units with Force Fields but doesn't kill too much.

12:00min
Parting built his Templar Archives and researches Storm after building only one Colossus
asd on the other hand still only uses Marine-Marauder-Medivac.

14:00min
Parting goes for +2 Armor and adds a 2nd Forge for +2 Weapons while asd starts his +2 weapon and armor upgrades and Ghosts


16:00min
Parting moves out on the map but doesn't commit either, backs off and takes his 4th base and builds a 2nd Robo
A 3-Zealot-runby into asd's third gets killed by asd's army.
Parting tries it again, this time with asd's army being in a worse position.
Parting also uses a single Templar to use feedback on a Ghost and Storm on asd's army

18:00min
Parting tries to take a 5th base but gets denied by a drop.
asd is still on 3 bases and tries to push into Parting's 4th now and is able to dodge 2 Storms.

Both players dance around, exchanging Storms and EMPs.
It looks like they want to commit but after exchanging another few blows both players back off.

20:00min
asd tries to take the 4th base closer to his opponents 4th but Parting pushes down the ramp and gets an awesome Storm down in the middle of asd's army. Colossai also hit asd hard and Parting is able to push on!

Parting hits another Storm on the Vikings, Stalkers take out the rest of them and Chargelots and the 2 left Colossai cut asd's army into pieces!

asd is forced to leave the game and therefore falls to Code A!

Edit: fixed
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 24 2012 12:38 GMT
#949
asd is like a 2011 player: "Three base is the best base! See my macro! Oh wait, I can't win here, better throw up my fourth now. . ."
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
October 24 2012 12:38 GMT
#950
omg
lol
I wrote Byun all the time Oo
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 24 2012 12:38 GMT
#951
asd actually played pretty well today, he lost in a few games with singular mistakes and played a great TvT
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 24 2012 12:38 GMT
#952
Let's see if Trap is one of those players who feels less pressure when he's got nothing on the line :/

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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 24 2012 12:38 GMT
#953
On October 24 2012 21:37 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 21:31 Yello wrote:
asd vs Parting

Cloud Kingdom
Parting starts as the blue Protoss in the top right, asd starts as the orange Terran in the bottom left.

missed the beginning of the game but looks like fast 3 Orbitals for Byun and fast-expand for Parting, getting additional gates and Robo.

8:00min
Parting goes for a fast Robotics Support Bay and +1 armor upgrade, Byun moves out with a bunch of Marine-Marauder with Stim and Combat Shields while starting double-upgrades and Starport back at home

10:00min
Byun doesn't commit to an attack and backs off. Parting takes his third, Byun floats his third CC down as well.
Byun is still poking with his Marine-Marauder force at Partings front and Parting catches a bunch of units with Force Fields but doesn't kill too much.

12:00min
Parting built his Templar Archives and researches Storm after building only one Colossus
Byun on the other hand still only uses Marine-Marauder-Medivac.

14:00min
Parting goes for +2 Armor and adds a 2nd Forge for +2 Weapons while Byun starts his +2 weapon and armor upgrades and Ghosts


16:00min
Parting moves out on the map but doesn't commit either, backs off and takes his 4th base and builds a 2nd RObo
A 3-Zealot-runby into Byun's third gets killed by Byun's army.
Parting tries it again, this time with Byun's army being in a worse position.
Parting also uses a single Templar to use feedback on a Ghost and Storm on Byun's army

18:00min
Parting tries to take a 5th base but gets denied by a drop.
Byun is still on 3 bases and tries to push into Parting's 4th now and is able to dodge 2 Storms.

Both players dance around, exchanging Storms and EMPs.
It looks like they want to commit but after exchanging another few blows both players back off.

20:00min
Byun tries to take the 4th base closer to his opponents 4th but Parting pushes down the ramp and gets an awesome Storm down in the middle of Byun's army. Colossai also hit Byun hard and Parting is able to push on!

Parting hits another Storm on the Vikings, Stalkers take out the rest of them and Chargelots and the 2 left Colossai cut Byun's army into pieces!

Byun is forced to leave the game!


the moment you realised byun is not asd
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
October 24 2012 12:38 GMT
#954
On October 24 2012 21:35 EtherealDeath wrote:
Or one single moment of mismicro fucks terran up

Don't start with this. If it was the case terrans wouldn't have won that many TvPs recently.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 24 2012 12:38 GMT
#955
Projections after Parting vs asd:

6-player round robin

KeeN
      Expected score: 3.98-1.02 (sets: 3.98-1.02)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 96.125%
      Most likely place: 1st (58.917%)

ByuN
      Expected score: 3.08-1.92 (sets: 3.08-1.92)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 68.459%
      Most likely place: 1st (37.208%)

PartinG
      Expected score: 2.67-2.33 (sets: 2.67-2.33)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 19.050%
      Most likely place: 3rd (48.886%)

Shine
      Expected score: 2.78-2.22 (sets: 2.78-2.22)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 16.366%
      Most likely place: 4th (48.686%)

asd
      Expected score: 1.43-3.57 (sets: 1.43-3.57)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 0.000%
      Most likely place: 6th (56.649%)

Trap
      Expected score: 1.05-3.95 (sets: 1.05-3.95)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 0.000%
      Most likely place: 5th (56.649%)

If Keen > Trap:
+ Show Spoiler +
KeeN
      Expected score: 4.46-0.54 (sets: 4.46-0.54)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 100.000%
      Most likely place: 1st (70.785%)

ByuN
      Expected score: 3.08-1.92 (sets: 3.08-1.92)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 58.502%
      Most likely place: 2nd (29.287%)

PartinG
      Expected score: 2.67-2.33 (sets: 2.67-2.33)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 23.407%
      Most likely place: 3rd (43.057%)

Shine
      Expected score: 2.78-2.22 (sets: 2.78-2.22)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 18.091%
      Most likely place: 4th (44.099%)

asd
      Expected score: 1.43-3.57 (sets: 1.43-3.57)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 0.000%
      Most likely place: 6th (56.663%)

Trap
      Expected score: 0.57-4.43 (sets: 0.57-4.43)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 0.000%
      Most likely place: 5th (56.663%)


If Trap > Keen:
+ Show Spoiler +
KeeN
      Expected score: 3.46-1.54 (sets: 3.46-1.54)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 91.911%
      Most likely place: 1st (46.196%)

ByuN
      Expected score: 3.08-1.92 (sets: 3.08-1.92)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 78.953%
      Most likely place: 1st (45.715%)

Shine
      Expected score: 2.78-2.22 (sets: 2.78-2.22)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 14.956%
      Most likely place: 4th (53.356%)

PartinG
      Expected score: 2.68-2.32 (sets: 2.68-2.32)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 14.180%
      Most likely place: 3rd (55.092%)

asd
      Expected score: 1.43-3.57 (sets: 1.43-3.57)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 0.000%
      Most likely place: 6th (56.708%)

Trap
      Expected score: 1.57-3.43 (sets: 1.57-3.43)
      Probability of achieving top 2: 0.000%
      Most likely place: 5th (56.708%)
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
October 24 2012 12:39 GMT
#956
On October 24 2012 21:38 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 21:37 Yello wrote:
On October 24 2012 21:31 Yello wrote:
asd vs Parting

Cloud Kingdom
Parting starts as the blue Protoss in the top right, asd starts as the orange Terran in the bottom left.

missed the beginning of the game but looks like fast 3 Orbitals for Byun and fast-expand for Parting, getting additional gates and Robo.

8:00min
Parting goes for a fast Robotics Support Bay and +1 armor upgrade, Byun moves out with a bunch of Marine-Marauder with Stim and Combat Shields while starting double-upgrades and Starport back at home

10:00min
Byun doesn't commit to an attack and backs off. Parting takes his third, Byun floats his third CC down as well.
Byun is still poking with his Marine-Marauder force at Partings front and Parting catches a bunch of units with Force Fields but doesn't kill too much.

12:00min
Parting built his Templar Archives and researches Storm after building only one Colossus
Byun on the other hand still only uses Marine-Marauder-Medivac.

14:00min
Parting goes for +2 Armor and adds a 2nd Forge for +2 Weapons while Byun starts his +2 weapon and armor upgrades and Ghosts


16:00min
Parting moves out on the map but doesn't commit either, backs off and takes his 4th base and builds a 2nd RObo
A 3-Zealot-runby into Byun's third gets killed by Byun's army.
Parting tries it again, this time with Byun's army being in a worse position.
Parting also uses a single Templar to use feedback on a Ghost and Storm on Byun's army

18:00min
Parting tries to take a 5th base but gets denied by a drop.
Byun is still on 3 bases and tries to push into Parting's 4th now and is able to dodge 2 Storms.

Both players dance around, exchanging Storms and EMPs.
It looks like they want to commit but after exchanging another few blows both players back off.

20:00min
Byun tries to take the 4th base closer to his opponents 4th but Parting pushes down the ramp and gets an awesome Storm down in the middle of Byun's army. Colossai also hit Byun hard and Parting is able to push on!

Parting hits another Storm on the Vikings, Stalkers take out the rest of them and Chargelots and the 2 left Colossai cut Byun's army into pieces!

Byun is forced to leave the game!


the moment you realised byun is not asd


Yeah man, that shit happens when you start a LR in the middle of the game.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
batterseapower
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom111 Posts
October 24 2012 12:39 GMT
#957
I'm feeling that Trap will win this... players down 0-3 historically seem to fight hard to get at least 1 win in their group. Trap also seems pretty good PvT as well.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 24 2012 12:39 GMT
#958
wolf is always so dramatic ^_^

he's going to remember it FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE!
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
October 24 2012 12:39 GMT
#959
I hope Trap can do an alive and win all his games when they no longer matter.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 24 2012 12:39 GMT
#960
Poll: Recommend asd vs. Trap?

Maybe (4)
 
40%

Yes (3)
 
30%

No (3)
 
30%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend asd vs. Trap?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Maybe



spoiler free vote plz
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