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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 14 2012 09:24 GMT
#1221
On October 14 2012 18:21 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 18:20 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:19 sharkie wrote:
all those fans calling build order loss

this was a very stupid BO from Hero, so its a deserved loss


It's a build order win no matter how you want to look at it.


its also a build order no good PvPer would have ever chosen on this map



Like you know what you're talking about mr bronzie.
Moderatorlickypiddy
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
October 14 2012 09:24 GMT
#1222
On October 14 2012 18:21 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
how did herO beat roro? 2 base all ins or macro games?


1st Game: Parting-esque 2 base immortal all-in
2st Game: Roro went 2 base infestors and then 3 base Bls. herO went 3 base timing and hit Roro really hard But Roro managed to barely hold it off but only has 2 base mining.Roro went all-in with what he has left and lost.

Play your best
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 14 2012 09:24 GMT
#1223
On October 14 2012 18:23 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 18:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:21 letian wrote:
Like a bo win has nothing to do with a player decision making and preparation.


I can tell you why HerO chose that build - because he knows Rain always plays defensively. He just picked the exact wrong time to do it.

this is a sort of legitimate excuse you've found for HerO?

yeah you might as well say Rain figured HerO would think like that and prepared a counter

the bottom line is Rain is now 5-0 over him and noone could even begin to question who's the better of the two
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 14 2012 09:24 GMT
#1224
On October 14 2012 18:23 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 18:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:21 letian wrote:
Like a bo win has nothing to do with a player decision making and preparation.


I can tell you why HerO chose that build - because he knows Rain always plays defensively. He just picked the exact wrong time to do it.

this is a sort of legitimate excuse you've found for HerO?


I don't know why you've got the impression that I'm making excuses. You're probably just one of those idiots who thinks everyone on the internet is his enemy.
I just told you why HerO picked that build. Didn't say it was smart.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
October 14 2012 09:24 GMT
#1225
Didn't Naniwa beat Genius with the exact same builds on this map? Nani going for the FE, Genius for blink obs?
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 14 2012 09:25 GMT
#1226
On October 14 2012 18:23 Doko wrote:
Name of song playing atm?


Evanescence - Whisper
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 14 2012 09:26 GMT
#1227
anyways I really hope the winner of this next match kills HerO or we're gonna have a guaranteed 7-0 after the finals >.>
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 14 2012 09:26 GMT
#1228
On October 14 2012 18:24 Mikau wrote:
Didn't Naniwa beat Genius with the exact same builds on this map? Nani going for the FE, Genius for blink obs?


Genius must have messed up badly then.
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 09:27:03
October 14 2012 09:26 GMT
#1229
On October 14 2012 18:25 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 18:23 Doko wrote:
Name of song playing atm?


Evanescence - Whisper


thanks but i meant the one before that, changed right as I posted
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 14 2012 09:26 GMT
#1230
On October 14 2012 18:24 Mikau wrote:
Didn't Naniwa beat Genius with the exact same builds on this map? Nani going for the FE, Genius for blink obs?


It was 1-1. Naniwa just adjusted to it better the second time and Genius didn't change his harassment movements.
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SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 09:27:40
October 14 2012 09:27 GMT
#1231
you can go for a robotics build into expansion on cloud kingdom and defend blink obs builds. creator does it all the time but it is very difficult. losing that second immortal lost hero the game.
Progamer
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
October 14 2012 09:27 GMT
#1232
As I remember it (but it might be wrong, was 2 seasons ago I think) Nani just positioned really well. Genius didn't make any blatant mistakes iirc.
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
October 14 2012 09:28 GMT
#1233
On October 14 2012 18:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 18:23 letian wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:21 letian wrote:
Like a bo win has nothing to do with a player decision making and preparation.


I can tell you why HerO chose that build - because he knows Rain always plays defensively. He just picked the exact wrong time to do it.

this is a sort of legitimate excuse you've found for HerO?


I don't know why you've got the impression that I'm making excuses. You're probably just one of those idiots who thinks everyone on the internet is his enemy.
I just told you why HerO picked that build. Didn't say it was smart.


Hmm, I don't think I've seen Rain play too defensively on a Cloud Kingdom PvP though. It might be a good idea in general, but wrong map to do it.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
October 14 2012 09:29 GMT
#1234
On October 14 2012 18:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 18:23 letian wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:21 letian wrote:
Like a bo win has nothing to do with a player decision making and preparation.


I can tell you why HerO chose that build - because he knows Rain always plays defensively. He just picked the exact wrong time to do it.

this is a sort of legitimate excuse you've found for HerO?


I don't know why you've got the impression that I'm making excuses. You're probably just one of those idiots who thinks everyone on the internet is his enemy.
I just told you why HerO picked that build. Didn't say it was smart.

thank you for your insightful explanation, I don't even remember asking for lol
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
October 14 2012 09:30 GMT
#1235
On October 14 2012 18:26 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 18:24 Mikau wrote:
Didn't Naniwa beat Genius with the exact same builds on this map? Nani going for the FE, Genius for blink obs?


It was 1-1. Naniwa just adjusted to it better the second time and Genius didn't change his harassment movements.

Which supports my point that it is possible (though really hard to do) to hold this. As someone said, Creator seems to do it all the time.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 14 2012 09:30 GMT
#1236
On October 14 2012 18:29 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 18:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:23 letian wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:21 letian wrote:
Like a bo win has nothing to do with a player decision making and preparation.


I can tell you why HerO chose that build - because he knows Rain always plays defensively. He just picked the exact wrong time to do it.

this is a sort of legitimate excuse you've found for HerO?


I don't know why you've got the impression that I'm making excuses. You're probably just one of those idiots who thinks everyone on the internet is his enemy.
I just told you why HerO picked that build. Didn't say it was smart.

thank you for your insightful explanation, I don't even remember asking for lol


You're welcome.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
October 14 2012 09:31 GMT
#1237
On October 14 2012 18:29 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 18:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:23 letian wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:21 letian wrote:
Like a bo win has nothing to do with a player decision making and preparation.


I can tell you why HerO chose that build - because he knows Rain always plays defensively. He just picked the exact wrong time to do it.

this is a sort of legitimate excuse you've found for HerO?


I don't know why you've got the impression that I'm making excuses. You're probably just one of those idiots who thinks everyone on the internet is his enemy.
I just told you why HerO picked that build. Didn't say it was smart.

thank you for your insightful explanation, I don't even remember asking for lol

And neither did anyone ask for your opinion. This is a forum, people are bound to give their opinions without anyone explicitly asking for them. As did you.
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
October 14 2012 09:31 GMT
#1238
On October 14 2012 18:27 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:
you can go for a robotics build into expansion on cloud kingdom and defend blink obs builds. creator does it all the time but it is very difficult. losing that second immortal lost hero the game.


This guy has it right, losing the second immortal cost hero the game, slight misscontrol was all it took. Not saying that hero would have definitely won or anything like that, but without the second immortal the game was over.
The world is ending what should we do about it?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 09:33:13
October 14 2012 09:31 GMT
#1239
On October 14 2012 18:29 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 18:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:23 letian wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 14 2012 18:21 letian wrote:
Like a bo win has nothing to do with a player decision making and preparation.


I can tell you why HerO chose that build - because he knows Rain always plays defensively. He just picked the exact wrong time to do it.

this is a sort of legitimate excuse you've found for HerO?


I don't know why you've got the impression that I'm making excuses. You're probably just one of those idiots who thinks everyone on the internet is his enemy.
I just told you why HerO picked that build. Didn't say it was smart.

thank you for your insightful explanation, I don't even remember asking for lol


And we didn't ask for your opinion on Hero and Rain. Still you are repeatedly trying to make your opinion known to everyone ...
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 09:34:10
October 14 2012 09:31 GMT
#1240
I think Rain just makes good decisions with regards to choosing generally smart build orders for PvP based on the maps. Maybe because PvP is mostly about build order wins/losses, he just tries to understand what would be safe per map. Just a theory.

Don't know why Hero went for that build though. For the next match, cjhero FIGHTING!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
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