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KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
October 09 2012 12:29 GMT
#861
On October 09 2012 21:28 pAzand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 21:25 xN.07)MaK wrote:
And people ask why Last cheesed the first games. After 12min, you are facing storm and collosus, and there is no good counter to that


Exactly! Tier 1 Marines should work against colo/ht, obviously!

(Although I feel that Tanks should be buffed abit)

Should he use the tier 3 units? BC and Thors?
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
October 09 2012 12:29 GMT
#862
Lets hope a cheese bum doesn't outplay a more interesting player.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
October 09 2012 12:30 GMT
#863
On October 09 2012 21:27 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 21:25 Berceno wrote:
On October 09 2012 21:25 xN.07)MaK wrote:
And people ask why Last cheesed the first games. After 12min, you are facing storm and collosus, and there is no good counter to that


viking-ghost?


"oh hey I see you have templar at 12 minutes. I'm not gonna make ghosts though, ima keep making tanks for the next 10 minutes."

-Last

teching to ghosts would take too long, I think that's the only way to play vs a competent protoss that knows how to harass, kill him before he is able to, I think he should've gotten better upgrades though.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 12:30:30
October 09 2012 12:30 GMT
#864
Everybody lagging..

If people ask me why GSL owns OSL I know the answer
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
October 09 2012 12:30 GMT
#865
Last actually prepared Rain for MVP perfectly.
WinningGuy
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia53 Posts
October 09 2012 12:30 GMT
#866
On October 09 2012 21:28 GreenAndOrangeTurtle wrote:
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On October 09 2012 21:26 Lunareste wrote:
Poll: Which cheese will Last use next?

Double Starport Banshee (12)
 
38%

BITTT BYYYY BIITTTTTT (8)
 
25%

1/1/1 (7)
 
22%

Marine/Tank (3)
 
9%

Proxy 2 Rax (2)
 
6%

32 total votes

Your vote: Which cheese will Last use next?

(Vote): 1/1/1
(Vote): Proxy 2 Rax
(Vote): Marine/Tank
(Vote): BITTT BYYYY BIITTTTTT
(Vote): Double Starport Banshee



I'd love to see some 2 port action. Its been too long


Phoenix.
You have to be masters to train bronze league players...apparently.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
October 09 2012 12:30 GMT
#867
On October 09 2012 21:28 Lorch wrote:
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On October 09 2012 21:26 Wildmoon wrote:
On October 09 2012 21:20 Black[CAT] wrote:
SC2 actually looks interesting played by these guys.


Quite surprised that you find this game interesting by your "BW" standard lol. It looks averrage for me.:D


Well to be fair it has tanks and not many marauders, that by itself makes it so much nicer to look at.


I actually find MMMVG more fun to watch in this MU just because I know marine/tank doesn't stand a chance in late game vP. MMMVG is really fun to watch when it's high level imo.
chrissummers
Profile Joined March 2011
243 Posts
October 09 2012 12:30 GMT
#868
On October 09 2012 21:27 RowdierBob wrote:
Last has some nice builds planned for Rain but he truly has no plan B when they don't pan out.

Rain just needs to keep playing super safe and he'll win. Even if he sacrifices a bit of an eco advantage he's that much better in the late game it doesn't matter.



I dont think he actually prepared these builds for rain, he played exactly the same against Oz. It is just his style. It would be wrong to give him more credit than he deserves, just because by pure luck, his style has matched up pretty well against rains.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 09 2012 12:30 GMT
#869
On October 09 2012 21:27 Shock710 wrote:
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On October 09 2012 21:26 letian wrote:
Last trying hard to become a second BW Shine

yeah shine--> knocking bisu out from osl
last--->possibly knocking rain out of osl
BUT OMG i hope he doesnt! I really really want rain to win both the OSL and GSL would be amazing

Fun fact: Last knocked Bisu out of the Code A prelims in the bracket finals.

Last also knocked Shine out of the Code A prelims right before that.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12706 Posts
October 09 2012 12:31 GMT
#870
On October 09 2012 21:26 InDesconrowl wrote:
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On October 09 2012 21:21 ETisME wrote:
On October 09 2012 21:20 Black[CAT] wrote:
SC2 actually looks interesting played by these guys.

this is a pretty average game........
people don't use marine tank against toss for a reason


Marine tank has beaten Rain who has been dominating traditional Terran play.

People used to think hellions were bad. Don't be afriad to try new unit compositions.

it's not a new unit composition
Marine tank never works very well once toss go up to 3 bases.
now add in the immortal range upgrade.

Marine tank has beaten Rain, and it looks like he has figured out how to deal with it after reviewing some old metagame.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 09 2012 12:31 GMT
#871
Stream is back for me :D
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
October 09 2012 12:31 GMT
#872
On October 09 2012 21:28 pAzand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 21:25 xN.07)MaK wrote:
And people ask why Last cheesed the first games. After 12min, you are facing storm and collosus, and there is no good counter to that


Exactly! Tier 1 Marines should work against colo/ht, obviously!

(Although I feel that Tanks should be buffed abit)


Terrans don't really have any other good composition....
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
October 09 2012 12:31 GMT
#873
On October 09 2012 21:30 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 21:27 -TesteR- wrote:
On October 09 2012 21:25 Berceno wrote:
On October 09 2012 21:25 xN.07)MaK wrote:
And people ask why Last cheesed the first games. After 12min, you are facing storm and collosus, and there is no good counter to that


viking-ghost?


"oh hey I see you have templar at 12 minutes. I'm not gonna make ghosts though, ima keep making tanks for the next 10 minutes."

-Last

teching to ghosts would take too long, I think that's the only way to play vs a competent protoss that knows how to harass, kill him before he is able to, I think he should've gotten better upgrades though.



No.

Getting Ghosts is easier than getting Templar.
If your opponent has Templar, and you have scouted it and failed to make a single ghost for 10 minutes, you deserve to lose.
Sorry Last Fans. The guy is playing bad, QQ somewhere else
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 09 2012 12:31 GMT
#874
At this point Last basically needs to luck out and win a single game by doing crazy random shit, while Rain must play it safe to not throw away the early game and lose, and even if he makes it into the late game he needs to still be careful even if hes way better, once again last with "no hope" in the late game is probably gonna continue with crazy stuff till he wins or loses.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
October 09 2012 12:31 GMT
#875
On October 09 2012 21:27 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 21:25 Berceno wrote:
On October 09 2012 21:25 xN.07)MaK wrote:
And people ask why Last cheesed the first games. After 12min, you are facing storm and collosus, and there is no good counter to that


viking-ghost?


"oh hey I see you have templar at 12 minutes. I'm not gonna make ghosts though, ima keep making tanks for the next 10 minutes."

-Last


thats not so surprising, people have been making tanks vs HT for a long, long time.

i think it was more interactive when you could use storm against huge tank lines, or when tanks arent an autoloss 10 mins in. who can forget jangbi vs nada?
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
October 09 2012 12:31 GMT
#876
rush distances denying last's supply advantage, look at him getting forced back with marines vs immortal zealot despite his 30 supply lead.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 09 2012 12:31 GMT
#877
On October 09 2012 21:27 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 21:26 letian wrote:
Last trying hard to become a second BW Shine

yeah shine--> knocking bisu out from osl
last--->possibly knocking rain out of osl
BUT OMG i hope he doesnt! I really really want rain to win both the OSL and GSL would be amazing

they are totally different.
Shine couldn't make anything but Hydras because his keyboard was broken
I just saw Last make Marines, Tanks AND MARAUDERS
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 09 2012 12:31 GMT
#878
On October 09 2012 21:30 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 21:27 Shock710 wrote:
On October 09 2012 21:26 letian wrote:
Last trying hard to become a second BW Shine

yeah shine--> knocking bisu out from osl
last--->possibly knocking rain out of osl
BUT OMG i hope he doesnt! I really really want rain to win both the OSL and GSL would be amazing

Fun fact: Last knocked Bisu out of the Code A prelims in the bracket finals.

Last also knocked Shine out of the Code A prelims right before that.

and then last lost to SC2 shine in Code A ;D
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
October 09 2012 12:32 GMT
#879
On October 09 2012 21:30 SorrowShine wrote:
Everybody lagging..

If people ask me why GSL owns OSL I know the answer

I'm not lagging, you're watching the wrong stream.
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 09 2012 12:32 GMT
#880
On October 09 2012 21:31 Black[CAT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 21:28 pAzand wrote:
On October 09 2012 21:25 xN.07)MaK wrote:
And people ask why Last cheesed the first games. After 12min, you are facing storm and collosus, and there is no good counter to that


Exactly! Tier 1 Marines should work against colo/ht, obviously!

(Although I feel that Tanks should be buffed abit)


Terrans don't really have any other good composition....

Add ghosts and vikings and engage well.
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