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No balance whine
eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
September 27 2012 09:35 GMT
#281
On September 27 2012 18:33 aznball123 wrote:
the answer is warpgate.


half correct, the answer should be zealot.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-27 09:35:52
September 27 2012 09:35 GMT
#282
On September 27 2012 18:33 Ketch wrote:
What were Hearts upgrades at the end? 2-2? Seemed like a huge difference...

3-2, the huge difference was Heart's overproduction of vikings & underproduction of marines. 4 vikings a time + pure marauder/ghost against 1robo colossus + 3 immortals + zealot/archon = no.

Note: with good control he still (maybe) could have won that fight.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
September 27 2012 09:35 GMT
#283
On September 27 2012 18:34 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 18:32 Blaec wrote:
So why did Squirtle win that battle?

incredible control

Uhm.. can you elaborte?
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
September 27 2012 09:35 GMT
#284
Feels like I'm watching a cooking show today 0.o
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 27 2012 09:35 GMT
#285
Squirtle vs Heart
Game 2
Map: Antiga Shipyard

0:00
Squirtle spawns in the bottom left
Heart spawns in the top right
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
September 27 2012 09:35 GMT
#286
Started !

Gogogo Squirtle !
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 27 2012 09:35 GMT
#287
On September 27 2012 18:33 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 18:31 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
what's going on with legend? missing all the harrassment?


legend is not observing any more...

Has he stopped forever or?
Also, glad to see Squirtle get a deserved victory, now beat him in the 2nd map and advance first in the group :3
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fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
September 27 2012 09:35 GMT
#288
On September 27 2012 18:34 trwkling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 18:33 ChaosArcher wrote:
On September 27 2012 18:32 Blaec wrote:
So why did Squirtle win that battle?


Want to know that too :O
Probably archons and 3/3 and a slightly overstimmed army.


and probably a lot of his supply was in vikings while chargelots and archons really torn through heart's army


Also, ideally you want to use your vikings to zone out the colossus even before the engagement happens
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
September 27 2012 09:36 GMT
#289
On September 27 2012 18:33 MaNaVoId wrote:
Foolish of artosis to think heart can play macro even with a greedy build


Are you serious lol? Heart is fully capable of a solid macro game. Squirtle is one of the strongest Protoss atm.. give the guy a break.
Buchan
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada184 Posts
September 27 2012 09:36 GMT
#290
On September 27 2012 18:34 TommyP wrote:
Can someone explain to me how Heart lost. He had a better economy like all game and was up in supply (i think, its hard to see on GOM) even though Squirtle had like 10 more workers and killed all the colossus really early in the fight and had high ground. I didnt watch the first 5 minutes so maybe I missed something there.
He tried to play TvP straight up. Which never works unless you can kill Protoss before they get 3-3 archons collosi or storm, just too much splash, too fast reinforcement.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 27 2012 09:36 GMT
#291
On September 27 2012 18:34 TommyP wrote:
Can someone explain to me how Heart lost. He had a better economy like all game and was up in supply (i think, its hard to see on GOM) even though Squirtle had like 10 more workers and killed all the colossus really early in the fight and had high ground. I didnt watch the first 5 minutes so maybe I missed something there.


absolutely no stutter stepping from heart for like the first 3 seconds
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 27 2012 09:36 GMT
#292
On September 27 2012 18:35 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2012 18:33 Ketch wrote:
What were Hearts upgrades at the end? 2-2? Seemed like a huge difference...

3-2, the huge difference was Heart's overproduction of vikings & underproduction of marines. 4 vikings a time + pure marauder/ghost against 1robo colossus + 3 immortals + zealot/archon = no.


I thought Squirtle would take advantage of that more since by the time he got his first Colossus, Heart already had more than 4 vikings. I was afraid for him when he counter attacked versus so many Vikings but he definitely didn't make enough Bio to support his army.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
September 27 2012 09:36 GMT
#293
heart's gonna cheese now 100%


if he has any interest in winning that is
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 27 2012 09:36 GMT
#294
Slightly overmade vikings by Heart. A couple EMP's to the main death ball and better stutter step from Heart and he probably would have won.
Rellit
Profile Joined March 2012
Singapore92 Posts
September 27 2012 09:36 GMT
#295
On September 27 2012 18:34 TommyP wrote:
Can someone explain to me how Heart lost. He had a better economy like all game and was up in supply (i think, its hard to see on GOM) even though Squirtle had like 10 more workers and killed all the colossus really early in the fight and had high ground. I didnt watch the first 5 minutes so maybe I missed something there.


he engage badly and lost part of his army to forcefield a few times
very poor play by him
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
September 27 2012 09:36 GMT
#296
On September 27 2012 18:32 trwkling wrote:
woah that last battle was kinda strange for me but i guess those archons really just torn through the terran army

but wow squirtle really turtled well this game


14+ useless vikings and not enough ghosts. Korean Terrans never win lategame TvP because they don't build enough ghosts. This is why you see kespa protoss dominate korean terrans so hard.

You'll see korean terrans attack, attack, attack...and never convert their army into mass ghost+viking. Then when the protoss holds off everything they simply win because bio loses against 3/3 protoss with storm+collosus unless you have 20+ ghosts with vikings and fewer bio units.
Sup
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 27 2012 09:36 GMT
#297
if heart hadn't tried to be cute, doing nothing with his units while squirtle established a third whilst being 40 supply down, the game would've been his, games like this are just very annoying to watch.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 27 2012 09:37 GMT
#298
On September 27 2012 18:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Squirtle vs Heart
Game 2
Map: Antiga Shipyard

0:00
Squirtle spawns in the bottom left
Heart spawns in the top right

1:30
rax first from Heart
gate first from Squirtle

2:00
squirtle scouting for proxies in his natural and 3rd
gas for squirtle
heart walls off
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 27 2012 09:37 GMT
#299
Heart not really able to capitalize at all from his lead from the macro cheese, could have tried some drops and/or done runbys with a few reinforcements.
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
September 27 2012 09:37 GMT
#300
ok the sign just said that legend is observing?
is it wrong or is he still observing...
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
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