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On September 28 2012 05:28 the_business_og wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 04:48 Sroobz wrote:
Yawn, mods ban me if you must but this post isn't balance whine.
PvZ is by far the worst designed matchup of all time of any RTS
Infestors and the mothership RUIN a potentially great matchup.
I see no reason to explain. If you don't understand why, fuck you wake the fuck up PvZ is fucking terrible right now. Anyone who likes PvZ in the current late game state fuck you.
User was temp banned for this post. i don't get why tl mods give attention to post like this... i think it seems juvenile to ban people for online freedom of speech. Tl should consider getting some kind of voting or rating system so that people can weed out the bad comments
There's a thread, ten commandments or something, which should explain why TL mods ban. It's fantastic IMO. Balance whiners and trolls are gone in one feel swoop!
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I haven't finished watching the rest of the games but I have to say Leenock played fucking amazing. The way he kept gaining slight advantages after being down so much on Antiga culminating in one of the most beautiful engagements ever (I will admit Hero played terrible at the ned of the game). He might have given me hope to win a ZvP one day :p
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On September 28 2012 06:22 the_business_og wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 05:38 ragz_gt wrote:On September 28 2012 05:28 the_business_og wrote:On September 28 2012 04:48 Sroobz wrote:
Yawn, mods ban me if you must but this post isn't balance whine.
PvZ is by far the worst designed matchup of all time of any RTS
Infestors and the mothership RUIN a potentially great matchup.
I see no reason to explain. If you don't understand why, fuck you wake the fuck up PvZ is fucking terrible right now. Anyone who likes PvZ in the current late game state fuck you.
User was temp banned for this post. i don't get why tl mods give attention to post like this... i think it seems juvenile to ban people for online freedom of speech. Tl should consider getting some kind of voting or rating system so that people can weed out the bad comments Freedom of Speech (TM) as interpreted by law only offer protection from government. If your boss fire you for saying stupid things, your freedom of speech have not been violated, it just means you can't be arrested for saying stupid things. Now, if you are thinking Freedom of Speech as a ideology, well TL also have the right to do whatever they want in this regard. Were arguing different points...i am talking about the ideology. I say it is your right to say whatever you want (stupid things), and I think its dumb for Tl mods to waste time patrolling all the forums looking for immature and dumb comments just to ban them... it is a video game (starcraft 2/dota2/bw) forum so obviously there will be little kids on it. Also its extremely ineffective... it would literally take them like 3 minutes to make another account
Naw, it seems that TL can track alternative accounts pretty effectively.
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As I've said before, a zerg with mass infestors can be behind in econ (by a lot) and still be ahead or even with his opponent. In PvZ, the zerg and protoss actually switch roles in the late game. I think the same is true (probably to a lesser extent) in ZvT as seen in the games between Stephano and Lucifron. Most people still don't realize this.
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On September 28 2012 05:28 the_business_og wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 04:48 Sroobz wrote:
Yawn, mods ban me if you must but this post isn't balance whine.
PvZ is by far the worst designed matchup of all time of any RTS
Infestors and the mothership RUIN a potentially great matchup.
I see no reason to explain. If you don't understand why, fuck you wake the fuck up PvZ is fucking terrible right now. Anyone who likes PvZ in the current late game state fuck you.
User was temp banned for this post. i don't get why tl mods give attention to post like this... i think it seems juvenile to ban people for online freedom of speech. Tl should consider getting some kind of voting or rating system so that people can weed out the bad comments
When someone says anything along the lines of "I know I'll get banned but..." it leaves the mods in a dificult position. If they ban the guy, people will think they've missused their powers to get rid of criticism, and if they don't people will get away with awful posts.
Instead TL mods just ban anyone who is trying to make a matyr of themselfs, regardless of what the rest of the post might contain. Basicly, ask to get banned and you will get banned.
Of course you knew all this since it's mandatory that everyone reads the ten commanments when joining, right? 
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On September 28 2012 07:35 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 05:28 the_business_og wrote:On September 28 2012 04:48 Sroobz wrote:
Yawn, mods ban me if you must but this post isn't balance whine.
PvZ is by far the worst designed matchup of all time of any RTS
Infestors and the mothership RUIN a potentially great matchup.
I see no reason to explain. If you don't understand why, fuck you wake the fuck up PvZ is fucking terrible right now. Anyone who likes PvZ in the current late game state fuck you.
User was temp banned for this post. i don't get why tl mods give attention to post like this... i think it seems juvenile to ban people for online freedom of speech. Tl should consider getting some kind of voting or rating system so that people can weed out the bad comments When someone says anything along the lines of "I know I'll get banned but..." it leaves the mods in a dificult position. If they ban the guy, people will think they've missused their powers to get rid of criticism, and if they don't people will get away with awful posts. Instead TL mods just ban anyone who is trying to make a matyr of themselfs, regardless of what the rest of the post might contain. Basicly, ask to get banned and you will get banned. Of course you knew all this since it's mandatory that everyone reads the ten commanments when joining, right?
Also that post was atrocious. He insulted everyone who disagreed with his position. Although he says it isn't "balance whine" he also declares there is "no reason to explain" which means that it's not an informative post.
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
Didn't matter what came after that first sentence. Martyrdom is strictly prohibited here.
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On September 27 2012 20:24 Maloreon wrote:
Leenock picked that map because he's just got insane control and decisions in late game fights, I've seen him do this in dozens of games. He also picks that map vs. Terran for the same reason.
Protoss player does lots of great harassment all game and then plays HORRIBLY in major engagement and loses... this happens in EVERY matchup dudes. u mad?
I know everyone is done with this thread, but this is the comment I agree most with. Though I hate the mothership mechanic in PvZ, after rewatching the game and listening to leenocks interview it really isn't like this was a desperation attempt, or luck, it was planned.
Leenock knew roughly how this match would go down, just as many zergs get screwed in this map against tanks and terran, leenock uses the all important middle with zerg tanks (broodlords) and forces the best possible engagement.
Yeah hero went in with a big lead into the last engagement but leenock planned a similar scenario to the situation he was in and the outcome went as he hoped. Hero probably should have been more patient, he let leenock take the high ground. He left his most important unit unguarded, and he ran away with part of his army while some was trapped in the vortex.
Honestly Hero might have jsut been better off without the mothership or at least zoning with HT and using Mass Recall.
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On September 28 2012 05:06 ElephantBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 04:59 ragz_gt wrote:On September 28 2012 04:48 Sroobz wrote:
Yawn, mods ban me if you must but this post isn't balance whine.
PvZ is by far the worst designed matchup of all time of any RTS
Infestors and the mothership RUIN a potentially great matchup.
I see no reason to explain. If you don't understand why, fuck you wake the fuck up PvZ is fucking terrible right now. Anyone who likes PvZ in the current late game state fuck you.
User was temp banned for this post. Woof... 2 weeks, hope it was worth it/. Man, that's nothing, I was banned for life several years ago with better behavior than this one. That's an old time when everybody on TL are too nice, so I stood out on a much nicer crowd.
This is the internet AKA world wide. TL should have the authority to punish whomever they want. You're treating TL like it's only a website that's accessible to people only in the United States.
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Gratz to herO, btw no comment on PvZ, we all know why.
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PvZ is the only matchup where people actually try to argue that their own (Toss) units are too strong, but it's still somehow Zerg's fault.
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Northern Ireland25470 Posts
On September 28 2012 09:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
PvZ is the only matchup where people actually try to argue that their own (Toss) units are too strong, but it's still somehow Zerg's fault.
Not really sure what you actually mean by that man.
Cool day's games, HerO's looking extremely good, and Leenock looked pretty fearsome in his historical worst matchup. Heart got a lot of undue hate, guy's got chops and Squirtle was Squirtle, looked solid today but didn't get the rub of the green. This was only Ro16 but it's fearsomely stacked these days
Also, Liquid now have Korea 1 and 2 in the current ELO rankings. Doesn't mean much but pretty cool nonetheless.
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On September 28 2012 07:35 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 05:28 the_business_og wrote:On September 28 2012 04:48 Sroobz wrote:
Yawn, mods ban me if you must but this post isn't balance whine.
PvZ is by far the worst designed matchup of all time of any RTS
Infestors and the mothership RUIN a potentially great matchup.
I see no reason to explain. If you don't understand why, fuck you wake the fuck up PvZ is fucking terrible right now. Anyone who likes PvZ in the current late game state fuck you.
User was temp banned for this post. i don't get why tl mods give attention to post like this... i think it seems juvenile to ban people for online freedom of speech. Tl should consider getting some kind of voting or rating system so that people can weed out the bad comments When someone says anything along the lines of "I know I'll get banned but..." it leaves the mods in a dificult position. If they ban the guy, people will think they've missused their powers to get rid of criticism, and if they don't people will get away with awful posts. Instead TL mods just ban anyone who is trying to make a matyr of themselfs, regardless of what the rest of the post might contain. Basicly, ask to get banned and you will get banned. Of course you knew all this since it's mandatory that everyone reads the ten commanments when joining, right?
yea it was an immature post imo. banning just doesnt seem the answer to me if you want TL to really grow?
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Northern Ireland25470 Posts
On September 28 2012 09:46 the_business_og wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 07:35 Vorenius wrote:On September 28 2012 05:28 the_business_og wrote:On September 28 2012 04:48 Sroobz wrote:
Yawn, mods ban me if you must but this post isn't balance whine.
PvZ is by far the worst designed matchup of all time of any RTS
Infestors and the mothership RUIN a potentially great matchup.
I see no reason to explain. If you don't understand why, fuck you wake the fuck up PvZ is fucking terrible right now. Anyone who likes PvZ in the current late game state fuck you.
User was temp banned for this post. i don't get why tl mods give attention to post like this... i think it seems juvenile to ban people for online freedom of speech. Tl should consider getting some kind of voting or rating system so that people can weed out the bad comments When someone says anything along the lines of "I know I'll get banned but..." it leaves the mods in a dificult position. If they ban the guy, people will think they've missused their powers to get rid of criticism, and if they don't people will get away with awful posts. Instead TL mods just ban anyone who is trying to make a matyr of themselfs, regardless of what the rest of the post might contain. Basicly, ask to get banned and you will get banned. Of course you knew all this since it's mandatory that everyone reads the ten commanments when joining, right? yea it was an immature post imo. banning just doesnt seem the answer to me if you want TL to really grow?
I'd imagine they'd rather grow at a perhaps slower rate, but maintain the quality of the forum than be a huge one but a cesspool
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On September 28 2012 08:50 brokenLoL wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 05:06 ElephantBaby wrote:On September 28 2012 04:59 ragz_gt wrote:On September 28 2012 04:48 Sroobz wrote:
Yawn, mods ban me if you must but this post isn't balance whine.
PvZ is by far the worst designed matchup of all time of any RTS
Infestors and the mothership RUIN a potentially great matchup.
I see no reason to explain. If you don't understand why, fuck you wake the fuck up PvZ is fucking terrible right now. Anyone who likes PvZ in the current late game state fuck you.
User was temp banned for this post. Woof... 2 weeks, hope it was worth it/. Man, that's nothing, I was banned for life several years ago with better behavior than this one. That's an old time when everybody on TL are too nice, so I stood out on a much nicer crowd. This is the internet AKA world wide. TL should have the authority to punish whomever they want. You're treating TL like it's only a website that's accessible to people only in the United States.
What, don't understand your post, do you know what I did back then?
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Yes!! Hero 
Looks like it got really scary there but super glad he advanced. And against the PvP monster Squirtle, no less!
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United Kingdom3249 Posts
On September 28 2012 10:14 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 09:46 the_business_og wrote:On September 28 2012 07:35 Vorenius wrote:On September 28 2012 05:28 the_business_og wrote:On September 28 2012 04:48 Sroobz wrote:
Yawn, mods ban me if you must but this post isn't balance whine.
PvZ is by far the worst designed matchup of all time of any RTS
Infestors and the mothership RUIN a potentially great matchup.
I see no reason to explain. If you don't understand why, fuck you wake the fuck up PvZ is fucking terrible right now. Anyone who likes PvZ in the current late game state fuck you.
User was temp banned for this post. i don't get why tl mods give attention to post like this... i think it seems juvenile to ban people for online freedom of speech. Tl should consider getting some kind of voting or rating system so that people can weed out the bad comments When someone says anything along the lines of "I know I'll get banned but..." it leaves the mods in a dificult position. If they ban the guy, people will think they've missused their powers to get rid of criticism, and if they don't people will get away with awful posts. Instead TL mods just ban anyone who is trying to make a matyr of themselfs, regardless of what the rest of the post might contain. Basicly, ask to get banned and you will get banned. Of course you knew all this since it's mandatory that everyone reads the ten commanments when joining, right? yea it was an immature post imo. banning just doesnt seem the answer to me if you want TL to really grow? I'd imagine they'd rather grow at a perhaps slower rate, but maintain the quality of the forum than be a huge one but a cesspool
It is a cardinal rule to never martyr. The content of a post does not matter if you martyr yourself, there will be a ban incoming no matter what.
Hate it or love it, it is a very easy rule to live by. There is no reason to say stuff like 'Ban me if you must, but...'. If the post contains nothing that will get you banned, you won't be banned. If it does, then you get what you deserve.
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Northern Ireland25470 Posts
On September 28 2012 12:44 Porcelina wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2012 10:14 Wombat_NI wrote:On September 28 2012 09:46 the_business_og wrote:On September 28 2012 07:35 Vorenius wrote:On September 28 2012 05:28 the_business_og wrote:On September 28 2012 04:48 Sroobz wrote:
Yawn, mods ban me if you must but this post isn't balance whine.
PvZ is by far the worst designed matchup of all time of any RTS
Infestors and the mothership RUIN a potentially great matchup.
I see no reason to explain. If you don't understand why, fuck you wake the fuck up PvZ is fucking terrible right now. Anyone who likes PvZ in the current late game state fuck you.
User was temp banned for this post. i don't get why tl mods give attention to post like this... i think it seems juvenile to ban people for online freedom of speech. Tl should consider getting some kind of voting or rating system so that people can weed out the bad comments When someone says anything along the lines of "I know I'll get banned but..." it leaves the mods in a dificult position. If they ban the guy, people will think they've missused their powers to get rid of criticism, and if they don't people will get away with awful posts. Instead TL mods just ban anyone who is trying to make a matyr of themselfs, regardless of what the rest of the post might contain. Basicly, ask to get banned and you will get banned. Of course you knew all this since it's mandatory that everyone reads the ten commanments when joining, right? yea it was an immature post imo. banning just doesnt seem the answer to me if you want TL to really grow? I'd imagine they'd rather grow at a perhaps slower rate, but maintain the quality of the forum than be a huge one but a cesspool It is a cardinal rule to never martyr. The content of a post does not matter if you martyr yourself, there will be a ban incoming no matter what. Hate it or love it, it is a very easy rule to live by. There is no reason to say stuff like 'Ban me if you must, but...'. If the post contains nothing that will get you banned, you won't be banned. If it does, then you get what you deserve.
Wasn't referring to that guy's ban, I waste enough of my life on this website to know that now  Was more answering the guy who was talking about TL being a bit ban-heavy and why I liked the way the mods do things here
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Sick! Hero advanced, nothing gets better than that!
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Would have been super disapointing if Hero hadn't advanced, he complety outplayed leenock in the first series
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