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Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
September 23 2012 11:37 GMT
#1061
On September 23 2012 20:36 FeyFey wrote:
aoe damage really is the nemesis of lucifron, stacking up his units all the time. Also horrible upgrades against lings and over committed like crazy against broodlords. But the Banelings where heroes slowing the Broodlord production roflmao.


Yes. He rushed towards that base and didn't set up tanks in a spread out fashion. Stuck with all the tanks on a ramp while being flanked is set to fail.
"The art of war is of vital importance to the state" || MVP.Keen fan since the day he stole my heart with a double 2rax. http://i.imgur.com/A82cl.gif
F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
September 23 2012 11:38 GMT
#1062
Patchzergs are awesome............not

User was warned for this post
#1 Kloggmosexual | Gambit 4 lyfe! | DiamondGOD | #iBelieve
Korelle
Profile Joined December 2011
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 11:40:32
September 23 2012 11:39 GMT
#1063
On September 23 2012 20:37 OrbitalPlane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:34 CodeskyE wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:33 pAzand wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:32 Poopi wrote:
Lol. TvZ is the saddest match-up I've seen in a RTS...


First game of RTS you're watching? Just wait for PvP!



current pvp is fun, what are you talking about?

I agree. But there are still ppl out there that learned 1 year ago that PvP is boring. They repeat it whenever the situation permitts it..


It's the same with ZvZ. The Queen buff improved the matchup greatly, and yet whenever we see a ZvZ pop up people still complain about how "bad" and "boring" the matchup is because of how it was a year ago.

It's a bit bothersome by this point.



On September 23 2012 20:38 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Patchzergs are awesome............not


Yeah Terran should totally be able to win after making 20 Vikings to kill 5 Brood Lords, not focusing Banelings and clumping up their entire army. Such a broken matchup right?
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 11:39:47
September 23 2012 11:39 GMT
#1064
On September 23 2012 20:34 CodeskyE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:33 pAzand wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:32 Poopi wrote:
Lol. TvZ is the saddest match-up I've seen in a RTS...


First game of RTS you're watching? Just wait for PvP!



current pvp is fun, what are you talking about?

I agree, I think it's the best mirror-MU. But (almost) everyone thinks that PvP is 99.9% colossus, which is not true.
EZ4ENCE
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
September 23 2012 11:39 GMT
#1065
On September 23 2012 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:34 CodeskyE wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:33 pAzand wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:32 Poopi wrote:
Lol. TvZ is the saddest match-up I've seen in a RTS...


First game of RTS you're watching? Just wait for PvP!



current pvp is fun, what are you talking about?

I agree, I think it's the best mirror-MU. But everyone thinks that PvP is 99.9% colossus, which is not true.

no way man tvt is best mirror match up
IM & EG supporter
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 23 2012 11:40 GMT
#1066
Mori again ..
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
September 23 2012 11:40 GMT
#1067
Awesome, this starts to feel more like a show in a couple of hours. Really miss the crowd.
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
September 23 2012 11:40 GMT
#1068
Mori again.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 23 2012 11:40 GMT
#1069
On September 23 2012 20:39 AgentChaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:34 CodeskyE wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:33 pAzand wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:32 Poopi wrote:
Lol. TvZ is the saddest match-up I've seen in a RTS...


First game of RTS you're watching? Just wait for PvP!



current pvp is fun, what are you talking about?

I agree, I think it's the best mirror-MU. But everyone thinks that PvP is 99.9% colossus, which is not true.

no way man tvt is best mirror match up

Yes, the first player who expands in PvP loses.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 23 2012 11:41 GMT
#1070
Cmooooon Luci, foreign terrans fighting
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
September 23 2012 11:41 GMT
#1071
On September 23 2012 20:38 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Patchzergs are awesome............not

It is even more amazing that you think that Targa won because the Zerg is imba, and not because Lucifron played terrible as hell. You have great understanding of the game, top notch.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 23 2012 11:41 GMT
#1072
On September 23 2012 20:38 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Patchzergs are awesome............not


Vortix in my opinion is pretty much a patch zerg because he didn't start making a HUGE splash until that patch.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
September 23 2012 11:41 GMT
#1073
Why is mori in the game anyway? Surely even germans prefer english stream.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Korelle
Profile Joined December 2011
143 Posts
September 23 2012 11:41 GMT
#1074
On September 23 2012 20:40 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:39 AgentChaos wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:34 CodeskyE wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:33 pAzand wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:32 Poopi wrote:
Lol. TvZ is the saddest match-up I've seen in a RTS...


First game of RTS you're watching? Just wait for PvP!



current pvp is fun, what are you talking about?

I agree, I think it's the best mirror-MU. But everyone thinks that PvP is 99.9% colossus, which is not true.

no way man tvt is best mirror match up

Yes, the first player who expands in PvP loses.


Except this hasn't been true for about a year. Have you bothered to watch any PvP matches lately?
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
September 23 2012 11:41 GMT
#1075
Will there be VOD's? Gotta go to bed soon
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 11:42:56
September 23 2012 11:42 GMT
#1076
On September 23 2012 20:39 Korelle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:37 OrbitalPlane wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:34 CodeskyE wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:33 pAzand wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:32 Poopi wrote:
Lol. TvZ is the saddest match-up I've seen in a RTS...


First game of RTS you're watching? Just wait for PvP!



current pvp is fun, what are you talking about?

I agree. But there are still ppl out there that learned 1 year ago that PvP is boring. They repeat it whenever the situation permitts it..


It's the same with ZvZ. The Queen buff improved the matchup greatly, and yet whenever we see a ZvZ pop up people still complain about how "bad" and "boring" the matchup is because of how it was a year ago.

It's a bit bothersome by this point.

I assume it's mostly not seeing all the details that make a matchup great. Protoss is the one race I don't play, and I don't enjoy PvP, but I'll freely admit that I simply don't understand the matchup. It feels random. I love ZvZ and TvT though. I should probably play some Protoss, I think it would make it a lot more fun to watch Starcraft.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 11:42:59
September 23 2012 11:42 GMT
#1077
On September 23 2012 20:41 acrimoneyius wrote:
Will there be VOD's? Gotta go to bed soon


on their twitch.tv channel I would assume
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 23 2012 11:42 GMT
#1078
On September 23 2012 20:41 Korelle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:40 Boucot wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:39 AgentChaos wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:34 CodeskyE wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:33 pAzand wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:32 Poopi wrote:
Lol. TvZ is the saddest match-up I've seen in a RTS...


First game of RTS you're watching? Just wait for PvP!



current pvp is fun, what are you talking about?

I agree, I think it's the best mirror-MU. But everyone thinks that PvP is 99.9% colossus, which is not true.

no way man tvt is best mirror match up

Yes, the first player who expands in PvP loses.


Except this hasn't been true for about a year. Have you bothered to watch any PvP matches lately?

Yes, all along the week.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
September 23 2012 11:42 GMT
#1079
On September 23 2012 20:41 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:38 F1rstAssau1t wrote:
Patchzergs are awesome............not


Vortix in my opinion is pretty much a patch zerg because he didn't start making a HUGE splash until that patch.


Or...

He got better at the game.

Radical theory I know.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
September 23 2012 11:43 GMT
#1080
On September 23 2012 20:39 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 20:34 CodeskyE wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:33 pAzand wrote:
On September 23 2012 20:32 Poopi wrote:
Lol. TvZ is the saddest match-up I've seen in a RTS...


First game of RTS you're watching? Just wait for PvP!



current pvp is fun, what are you talking about?

I agree, I think it's the best mirror-MU. But (almost) everyone thinks that PvP is 99.9% colossus, which is not true.


PvP is basically openings colliding of the immortal/blink and occationally pheonix variety and often times they will either kill or severly weaken opponent. After that if both sides are relatively unscathed and are able to expand it goes into 2-3 base collosus play which is ridiculously annoying to both play and watch because its really a lot of posturing (similer to TvT but without the multi pronged aspect).

If the game goes on long enough then it reaches a fairly unexplored lategame where what is best isnt really defined though the few times I get there I prefer to play with mothership and carriers.
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