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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 15 2012 22:11 GMT
#5281
I love that Planetary at that ramp.. That's beautyful
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32750 Posts
September 15 2012 22:11 GMT
#5282
Stephano going Ultras, last time he went Ultras against SuperNoVa meching on the same map, and he actually won.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
September 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#5283
On September 16 2012 07:10 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:09 xrapture wrote:
Why are people freaking out about these games? There have been dozens and dozens of GSL TvZs that displayed more skill and less mistakes. If you took a random tvz between two Code B Koreans and put Stephano's and Lucifron's name on it people would claim it was the best game ever.


Foreigner hype/bias obviously.


Not sure what you guys are watching, but these games have been really well played on both sides. I don't think it's a bad thing that people appreciate good play rather it comes from foreigners or Koreans.
Herp Derp
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
September 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#5284
He sure likes his PF's fast
trGKakarot
Profile Joined October 2011
United States129 Posts
September 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#5285
LucifroN is playing great (and is clearly a much better player than he has been given credit/attention for ...), but I still feel like most of his success in these games is simply knowing that Stephano doesn't make Mutalisks, and punishing him for that style of play.

(Not saying it makes him any less good, just seems to be an observation).
hihi glgl
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
September 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#5286
On September 16 2012 07:09 kruxey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:03 FeyFey wrote:
A terran on antiga beating stephano with marine tank. Impressive, took the middle with the banshees who drained all the fungals. Never let go of the position afterwards and as impressive as it is for stephano bringing up a 4th Lucifron made him pay for it and took the game with a conga line of tanks.

Um Im protoss but it's a known fact that antiga is the most terran favoured map ever(in TvZ as well).Not that Im trying to take away Lucifrons win but I wouldn't say that antiga didn't help him.


Steppes of War wants a word with you
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
September 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#5287
On September 16 2012 07:10 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:08 Big J wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:08 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:07 zmansman17 wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:05 aZealot wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:03 Makro wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:01 Big J wrote:
Can someone please tell me how ZvT is "not entertaining anymore"? anyone?


during a period it wasn't good to watch it, but with the news terran's strategy, it's again the best mu by far


More evidence that we don't have to cry for a Blizzard patch, all the damn time.


TvZ is my favorite MU. Games like this illustrate exactly why

lair tech games > hive tech games far and away, it's as simple as that.


ahm? stephano is the biggest hive rusher in the the whole Starcraft scene? Ultralisk cavern kind of requires hive...

yes?my point is that those games are not as good as what we had before with muta ling/bling.


those games are amazing. And you know, muta/ling/bling vs marine/tank/medivac did not fade out because of some patch or something. It faded out because Terrans started to play 3CC builds with maxed pushes, which simply started crushing 2base mutalisk play --> zergs started to play upgrade builds.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 22:13:07
September 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#5288
On September 16 2012 07:10 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:09 kruxey wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:03 FeyFey wrote:
A terran on antiga beating stephano with marine tank. Impressive, took the middle with the banshees who drained all the fungals. Never let go of the position afterwards and as impressive as it is for stephano bringing up a 4th Lucifron made him pay for it and took the game with a conga line of tanks.

Um Im protoss but it's a known fact that antiga is the most terran favoured map ever(in TvZ as well).Not that Im trying to take away Lucifrons win but I wouldn't say that antiga didn't help him.


This is actually a common misconception. Go check out the actual win rates for antigua.

To be fair a 50% map is terran favored compared to some other GSL maps.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#5289
On September 16 2012 07:10 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:09 xrapture wrote:
Why are people freaking out about these games? There have been dozens and dozens of GSL TvZs that displayed more skill and less mistakes. If you took a random tvz between two Code B Koreans and put Stephano's and Lucifron's name on it people would claim it was the best game ever.


Foreigner hype/bias obviously.

Still better than the Korean bias the first one carries.
The legend of Darien lives on
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#5290
On September 16 2012 07:10 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:08 Big J wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:08 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:07 zmansman17 wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:05 aZealot wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:03 Makro wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:01 Big J wrote:
Can someone please tell me how ZvT is "not entertaining anymore"? anyone?


during a period it wasn't good to watch it, but with the news terran's strategy, it's again the best mu by far


More evidence that we don't have to cry for a Blizzard patch, all the damn time.


TvZ is my favorite MU. Games like this illustrate exactly why

lair tech games > hive tech games far and away, it's as simple as that.


ahm? stephano is the biggest hive rusher in the the whole Starcraft scene? Ultralisk cavern kind of requires hive...

yes?my point is that those games are not as good as what we had before with muta ling/bling.


well a muta play like drg is really amazing but i don"t really understand your point, at this period zerg didn't use as many units as nowaday so
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#5291
On September 16 2012 07:11 ELA wrote:
I love that Planetary at that ramp.. That's beautyful


It's great to see this game develop over time.
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Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
September 15 2012 22:12 GMT
#5292
Love stephano burrowing lings everywhere.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
September 15 2012 22:13 GMT
#5293
I dunno what it is but watching Stephano play just feels like watching someone on a different understanding level than just about every other non-korean Zerg.

I mean I look at this and think "yeah, someone like Idra just doesn't play like this".
Can't put my finger down on what exactly it is but yeh.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
September 15 2012 22:13 GMT
#5294
Lucifron could really use some battle hellions.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
September 15 2012 22:14 GMT
#5295
Hope Luci builds a single raven for mobile detection.

Stephano made great use of burrow so far in this series.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
September 15 2012 22:14 GMT
#5296
On September 16 2012 07:09 xrapture wrote:
Why are people freaking out about these games? There have been dozens and dozens of GSL TvZs that displayed more skill and less mistakes. If you took a random tvz between two Code B Koreans and put Stephano's and Lucifron's name on it people would claim it was the best game ever.

Yes, because Stephano is at the same level as a code B korean.

And LucifroN isn't even as good as Rainbow or Anypro.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 22:14 GMT
#5297
VAMOS!
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 15 2012 22:14 GMT
#5298
wow top 3 control infestor from stephano, bad play
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
September 15 2012 22:14 GMT
#5299
That's right Lucifron.. don't even bother leap frogging your tanks as you approach the expo...
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 22:15 GMT
#5300
Go Blue Flame!!!!1
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