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Pwnzer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States617 Posts
September 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#5261
I hate banshees! I hate them so much. This isn't even balance whine, it's just that I'm really bad at defending against how much damage they do. When i watch games like this it really makes me wish I was better at sc2.
Herp Derp
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
September 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#5262
Why are people freaking out about these games? There have been dozens and dozens of GSL TvZs that displayed more skill and less mistakes. If you took a random tvz between two Code B Koreans and put Stephano's and Lucifron's name on it people would claim it was the best game ever.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 22:10:07
September 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#5263
On September 16 2012 07:08 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:08 ShroudeD wrote:
Mech!WOOHOO


And on a good mech map this time.


Feels like Stephano expected it this time, even before he saw the gas at the nat.
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
September 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#5264
On September 16 2012 07:08 xsnac wrote:
for everyone : stephano best map is antiga . and on antiga you can flank from 2-3 sides . he used to roll over polt over and over on antiga . is very good for zerg actualy .


Come on. People want excuses for their favourite player, don't ruin their sad day even more lol.
kruxey
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria168 Posts
September 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#5265
On September 16 2012 07:03 FeyFey wrote:
A terran on antiga beating stephano with marine tank. Impressive, took the middle with the banshees who drained all the fungals. Never let go of the position afterwards and as impressive as it is for stephano bringing up a 4th Lucifron made him pay for it and took the game with a conga line of tanks.

Um Im protoss but it's a known fact that antiga is the most terran favoured map ever(in TvZ as well).Not that Im trying to take away Lucifrons win but I wouldn't say that antiga didn't help him.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
September 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#5266
On September 16 2012 07:08 Aando wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:05 aZealot wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:03 Makro wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:01 Big J wrote:
Can someone please tell me how ZvT is "not entertaining anymore"? anyone?


during a period it wasn't good to watch it, but with the news terran's strategy, it's again the best mu by far


More evidence that we don't have to cry for a Blizzard patch, all the damn time.

But but... then me being gold means I'm bad. No, no! I'm really like atleast masters, it's just Blizzard balance thats hinders me from reaching my true potential. Yes, that has to be it.


I have perma-jetlag, but really, i am like highmasters material.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#5267
I love this mech TvZ.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Solarist
Profile Joined September 2011
291 Posts
September 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#5268
On September 16 2012 07:05 aZealot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:03 Makro wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:01 Big J wrote:
Can someone please tell me how ZvT is "not entertaining anymore"? anyone?


during a period it wasn't good to watch it, but with the news terran's strategy, it's again the best mu by far


More evidence that we don't have to cry for a Blizzard patch, all the damn time.


Really wish zerg and protoss players would get this tho, instead of calling for terran nerfs all the time
veKtory
Profile Joined June 2012
233 Posts
September 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#5269
Does Stephano ever go Mutas?
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 22:09 GMT
#5270
I wonder if in game 1 the +3 mech may have made a subtle difference in many of those very close engagements.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 15 2012 22:10 GMT
#5271
Don't forget Blue Flame this time Lucifron!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
September 15 2012 22:10 GMT
#5272
Everyone using the MVP build lately
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 15 2012 22:10 GMT
#5273
On September 16 2012 07:08 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:08 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:07 zmansman17 wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:05 aZealot wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:03 Makro wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:01 Big J wrote:
Can someone please tell me how ZvT is "not entertaining anymore"? anyone?


during a period it wasn't good to watch it, but with the news terran's strategy, it's again the best mu by far


More evidence that we don't have to cry for a Blizzard patch, all the damn time.


TvZ is my favorite MU. Games like this illustrate exactly why

lair tech games > hive tech games far and away, it's as simple as that.


ahm? stephano is the biggest hive rusher in the the whole Starcraft scene? Ultralisk cavern kind of requires hive...

yes?my point is that those games are not as good as what we had before with muta ling/bling.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
September 15 2012 22:10 GMT
#5274
On September 16 2012 07:09 xrapture wrote:
Why are people freaking out about these games? There have been dozens and dozens of GSL TvZs that displayed more skill and less mistakes. If you took a random tvz between two Code B Koreans and put Stephano's and Lucifron's name on it people would claim it was the best game ever.


Foreigner hype/bias obviously.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32750 Posts
September 15 2012 22:10 GMT
#5275
I love seeing Mech on Ohana, it just works so well on this map.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 22:10 GMT
#5276
On September 16 2012 07:09 kruxey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:03 FeyFey wrote:
A terran on antiga beating stephano with marine tank. Impressive, took the middle with the banshees who drained all the fungals. Never let go of the position afterwards and as impressive as it is for stephano bringing up a 4th Lucifron made him pay for it and took the game with a conga line of tanks.

Um Im protoss but it's a known fact that antiga is the most terran favoured map ever(in TvZ as well).Not that Im trying to take away Lucifrons win but I wouldn't say that antiga didn't help him.


This is actually a common misconception. Go check out the actual win rates for antigua.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
September 15 2012 22:10 GMT
#5277
On September 16 2012 07:09 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:08 jalstar wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:08 ShroudeD wrote:
Mech!WOOHOO


And on a good mech map this time.


I feel like cloud is a good mech map to though. Lots of chokes and everything.


It's not awful but it's so wide compared to Ohana.
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
September 15 2012 22:10 GMT
#5278
I play Zerg, I hate terran by deffinition, but strangely I love mech. I love to watch it, there is hidden beauty to it, I don't know what it is, but I'm drawn to it.
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 22:11:20
September 15 2012 22:10 GMT
#5279
On September 16 2012 07:09 xrapture wrote:
Why are people freaking out about these games? There have been dozens and dozens of GSL TvZs that displayed more skill and less mistakes. If you took a random tvz between two Code B Koreans and put Stephano's and Lucifron's name on it people would claim it was the best game ever.

Playing offline on a big stage with awesome production and commentary.
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
September 15 2012 22:11 GMT
#5280
Nice PF position.
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