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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 06 2012 09:52 GMT
#401
HuK ray is pretty good
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 06 2012 09:53 GMT
#402
On September 06 2012 18:51 sharkie wrote:
Byun had no confidence to take Sun to a straight up macro game.

Same with MKP in the JD series.

Stop talking absolute nonsense
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 09:55:47
September 06 2012 09:53 GMT
#403
On September 06 2012 18:52 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:48 MrCon wrote:
Why do all ESF players play worse than they ever had when facing Kespa players ?
This is so frustrating, god.

Playing someone with better mechanics makes you look worse. It's just like a masters player will look decent against masters but worse against a GM.


Not true in this case, they just straight up play worse. Rain did not play impressive that series at all. Byun just played way below his typical TvP level.

These games said little about Rains mechanics at all. If anything losing those 3 sentries and dealing with a drop like a plat player would in game 1 shows that he really is not all that people hype him up to be.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 10:20:28
September 06 2012 09:53 GMT
#404
Prime terrans so newbie and bad

User was warned for this post
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 06 2012 09:53 GMT
#405
On September 06 2012 18:52 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:48 MrCon wrote:
Why do all ESF players play worse than they ever had when facing Kespa players ?
This is so frustrating, god.

Playing someone with better mechanics makes you look worse. It's just like a masters player will look decent against masters but worse against a GM.


lol, u probably must not watch alot of gsl games if you think this is how bad byun plays
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 06 2012 09:53 GMT
#406
On September 06 2012 18:52 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:51 sharkie wrote:
Byun had no confidence to take Sun to a straight up macro game.

Same with MKP in the JD series.


No.

Byun and MKP just cheese a lot.

Like 50% of Byun's TvP's are one base all-ins with tanks.


Truth

Now for the best protoss in this group. Gogo Genius!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 06 2012 09:53 GMT
#407
Oh yeah, vote on this

Poll: Recommend Byun vs By.Rain Game 3?

Yes (11)
 
52%

If you have time (7)
 
33%

No (3)
 
14%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Byun vs By.Rain Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time



oops.
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 09:53:57
September 06 2012 09:53 GMT
#408
On September 06 2012 18:52 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:51 sharkie wrote:
Byun had no confidence to take Sun to a straight up macro game.

Same with MKP in the JD series.


No.

Byun and MKP just cheese a lot.

Like 50% of Byun's TvP's are one base all-ins with tanks.


hence his winrate in the match up ;-)

(yes, thats some hidden qqing)
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
September 06 2012 09:53 GMT
#409
gogo MiniMvp!
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 06 2012 09:53 GMT
#410
TL mods should take out all these kespa elitist trolls lol
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 06 2012 09:54 GMT
#411
On September 06 2012 18:52 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:48 MrCon wrote:
Why do all ESF players play worse than they ever had when facing Kespa players ?
This is so frustrating, god.

Playing someone with better mechanics makes you look worse. It's just like a masters player will look decent against masters but worse against a GM.

I'd agree on this statement in general, but not in this game. Byun had game 1 100% won when he killed the archive and then Rain sent all his stalkers to kill the drop, leaving his colossi defended by 3 sentries. But Byun retreated, wtf. He poke non stop, and when he has a big opening, he backs.
Game 2...I prefer forgetting it.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
September 06 2012 09:54 GMT
#412
On September 06 2012 18:51 sharkie wrote:
Byun had no confidence to take Sun to a straight up macro game.

Same with MKP in the JD series.

thats a thing i have noticed. when good players play against new guys in bw, they aim for a macro game, but when good players play against new guys in sc2 they try to throw them off guard with new rushes and builds that the noobs haven't seen before...

just an observation.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 06 2012 09:55 GMT
#413
On September 06 2012 18:53 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:52 Scarecrow wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:48 MrCon wrote:
Why do all ESF players play worse than they ever had when facing Kespa players ?
This is so frustrating, god.

Playing someone with better mechanics makes you look worse. It's just like a masters player will look decent against masters but worse against a GM.


lol, u probably must not watch alot of gsl games if you think this is how bad byun plays

dunno, he looked to me like the only protoss capable of controlling his army and harassing in multiple locations, at least the first I've seen doing it, and no, shift queueing zealots praying they are gonna do something doesn't count.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 06 2012 09:55 GMT
#414
So which Happy steps up today?

The one utterly crushed and defeated by Creator? The one who looked competent against Vampire and Killer? Will it even matter, will Genius realize that HotS beta is up and this is the swan song of the Carrier?

Happy definitely looking cuter in his Gom photos. Must be a good sign.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 06 2012 09:55 GMT
#415
COME ON MR GENIUS :D
Don't let me down please
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Krystal
Profile Joined April 2012
New Zealand67 Posts
September 06 2012 09:55 GMT
#416
Honestly, I don't understand people sometimes...

Rains drop defence was quite bad, that drop in game one went unscouted for way too long.

He also A moved into a defended choke point when there was no reason to do so, even letting his colossi attack a command centre instead of units.

Game two was simply a free win after the barracks was scouted.

Sure, he's a good player. But overall, he looks like he's a lower level Code S player at best. At least from that series, however, I've heard his PvZ is quite amazing
"There are two things in life: Things I understand and Things Wizards must have done."
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 06 2012 09:56 GMT
#417
On September 06 2012 18:54 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:51 sharkie wrote:
Byun had no confidence to take Sun to a straight up macro game.

Same with MKP in the JD series.

thats a thing i have noticed. when good players play against new guys in bw, they aim for a macro game, but when good players play against new guys in sc2 they try to throw them off guard with new rushes and builds that the noobs haven't seen before...

just an observation.


kespa players have never seen most of this old time all ins which would be easily defended against someone who was in that era of the all in , not working much however.
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
September 06 2012 09:56 GMT
#418
On September 06 2012 18:52 Kultfrisur wrote:
Fnatic Hwaiting!!


lol wat
<3 Kim Taeyeon
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18606 Posts
September 06 2012 09:56 GMT
#419
On September 06 2012 18:55 Krystal wrote:
Honestly, I don't understand people sometimes...

Rains drop defence was quite bad, that drop in game one went unscouted for way too long.

He also A moved into a defended choke point when there was no reason to do so, even letting his colossi attack a command centre instead of units.

Game two was simply a free win after the barracks was scouted.

Sure, he's a good player. But overall, he looks like he's a lower level Code S player at best. At least from that series, however, I've heard his PvZ is quite amazing


If Sun is a lower level Code S player at best what is Byung then?
Code B?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 06 2012 09:56 GMT
#420
On September 06 2012 18:56 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:52 Kultfrisur wrote:
Fnatic Hwaiting!!


lol wat


cause Fnatic.Rain is playing today ofc :D
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