• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:48
CEST 03:48
KST 10:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers24Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group D Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2708 users

[Day 1] MLG Summer Championship - Page 61

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 59 60 61 62 63 155 Next
Chrome has issues right now, try using firefox. Alternate, try : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=362560&currentpage=58#1141
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
August 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#1201
LOL Apollo WTF is this. I feel bad for him cause he has to do that.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#1202
On August 25 2012 07:20 mycro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:15 TheBrainiac wrote:
Is there really no brackets for this? What a shame.


Liquipedia, son.

well if he's looking for open brackets, they still arent up on Liquipedia
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#1203
Apollo so handome <3
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#1204
On August 25 2012 07:18 ShatterZer0 wrote:
What's with the obs and the lack of Chrome support?


Yeah the ob is pretty bad... no adebisi?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#1205
Would it be possible for Puma to not get caught out of position over and over again? He used to be a very good Terran and now it's like he has lost all of his game sense.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
August 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#1206
On August 25 2012 07:12 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:10 Yonnua wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:08 Badfatpanda wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:07 Yonnua wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:05 opterown wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:04 Yonnua wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:01 stuchiu wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:00 opterown wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:00 Yonnua wrote:
"use an alternate browser". -> turns on IE -> no video. Boycotting MLG for this tournament. Shoddy work.

try firefox



Or,

Use this fix:

type "chrome://plugins" intro address bar and you will see 3 versions of flash, disable the "pepperflash" version and you will be good.

Then reload the stream. If you have gold, you may have to log out of the mlg store and log back in.


Shouldn't have to do this, shouldn't need 3 browsers. I'm not watching the event. MLG shouldn't be rewarded for this POS production, which they do again and again and again with every event. They have never had an event with no issues and I for one am sick of it.

it's free to watch (half the streams), chill man


And? Faeces are free, I doubt you'd eat them. I refuse to feed money to MLG by watching 20 ads an hour while they make me jump through hoops to watch. Not interested.


We get it, you're pissed off, you should probably vent your rage to a customer support email instead of shitting on these forums and getting yourself banned.


Say you don't like an event and won't watch it -> get banned? I certainly hope not. I'm not watching and I'm not angry. All I'm saying is that MLG seriously need to improve their production.


Yes, you are being angry, and you are also being overly entitled. Appreciate what you have instead of whining about something this trivial in the long run.

"I shouldn't have to do that" lol


If I was watching football, I wouldn't be expected to watch a channel which froze every 10 seconds. I also wouldn't be expected to have to change settings on my TV to watch it. If Starcraft 2 and esports as a whole are going to become legitimately mainstream then poor production and accepting low standards shouldn't be the norm. It shouldn't be acceptable to require people to fiddle around in settings which the average person won't have extensive knowledge of because that excludes a part of the population and limits the reach of the sport.

I voiced my concerns with the poor production and said that I wouldn't be watching. At this point three or four people took it upon themselves to rally round and largely make personal attacks about how I should be banned or how I'm overly entitled. Esports succeeding doesn't come from blindly supporting everything in a fanatic manner. It comes from making it an enjoyable experience that everyone has access to. By having poor production that requires workarounds, MLG exclude that access to a large number of people. The people who don't have extensive knowledge of chrome settings, don't have a multitude of browsers and don't go on TL may have been excluded from this event. That hurts the growth of esports.

So does the community accepting a lower standard because then that standard becomes just that; acceptable. Once lower effort becomes acceptable it'll likely become the norm, and having lower access to people on the fringe of esports who may become involved will likely deter them from becoming involved permanently. And when this becomes the standard for events that makes it much harder for esports as a whole to succeed, because a lower standard is commonplace and its a much more enjoyable experience to watch football where you don't need to fiddle with settings to watch.

I'm not angry, and I'm not being overly entitled, but if Starcraft 2 is going to succeed then this level of production is unacceptable. All I stated was that I'm not watching this event when the production is this poor. Accepting this standard would be damaging to esports and I'm not going to be complicit with that.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
August 24 2012 22:22 GMT
#1207
On August 25 2012 07:07 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:06 dabom88 wrote:
Why the heck is the stream only 360?


Look like 480p to me
But the bitrate is quite low

http://www.twitch.tv/mlgstarcrafta

Only goes to 360+, which means there is no 480.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 24 2012 22:22 GMT
#1208
On August 25 2012 07:04 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:01 stuchiu wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:00 opterown wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:00 Yonnua wrote:
"use an alternate browser". -> turns on IE -> no video. Boycotting MLG for this tournament. Shoddy work.

try firefox



Or,

Use this fix:

type "chrome://plugins" intro address bar and you will see 3 versions of flash, disable the "pepperflash" version and you will be good.

Then reload the stream. If you have gold, you may have to log out of the mlg store and log back in.


Shouldn't have to do this, shouldn't need 3 browsers. I'm not watching the event. MLG shouldn't be rewarded for this POS production, which they do again and again and again with every event. They have never had an event with no issues and I for one am sick of it.

ikr fucking hell i had to click one extra time to open a browser u know what i mean? one click, im not sure if i can forgive mlg for this
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 22:22:22
August 24 2012 22:22 GMT
#1209
On August 25 2012 07:20 mycro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:15 TheBrainiac wrote:
Is there really no brackets for this? What a shame.


Liquipedia, son.

empty, son.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Summer/Championship/Open_Bracket
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
August 24 2012 22:22 GMT
#1210
I'm having huge problems when trying to change Quality, the stream just refuses to respond =/
BlindSight754
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
August 24 2012 22:22 GMT
#1211
Im on Chrome and its working fine. Also....interesting idea with the replay discussion instead of just crowd shots!
zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 22:23:16
August 24 2012 22:22 GMT
#1212
On August 25 2012 07:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:20 mycro wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:15 TheBrainiac wrote:
Is there really no brackets for this? What a shame.


Liquipedia, son.

well if he's looking for open brackets, they still arent up on Liquipedia

Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 22:23:36
August 24 2012 22:22 GMT
#1213
If this was anyone but Apollo, it would have been a disaster. I still dislike the idea however. When I see this I think American presidential elections.
#1 Grubby Fan.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 24 2012 22:23 GMT
#1214
This is a waste of time... Just get on with the games ;p;
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
August 24 2012 22:23 GMT
#1215
Apollo looking handsome in his fathers suit, but the headphones.. ^^
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
August 24 2012 22:24 GMT
#1216
On August 25 2012 07:21 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:12 marttorn wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:10 Yonnua wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:08 Badfatpanda wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:07 Yonnua wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:05 opterown wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:04 Yonnua wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:01 stuchiu wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:00 opterown wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:00 Yonnua wrote:
"use an alternate browser". -> turns on IE -> no video. Boycotting MLG for this tournament. Shoddy work.

try firefox



Or,

Use this fix:

type "chrome://plugins" intro address bar and you will see 3 versions of flash, disable the "pepperflash" version and you will be good.

Then reload the stream. If you have gold, you may have to log out of the mlg store and log back in.


Shouldn't have to do this, shouldn't need 3 browsers. I'm not watching the event. MLG shouldn't be rewarded for this POS production, which they do again and again and again with every event. They have never had an event with no issues and I for one am sick of it.

it's free to watch (half the streams), chill man


And? Faeces are free, I doubt you'd eat them. I refuse to feed money to MLG by watching 20 ads an hour while they make me jump through hoops to watch. Not interested.


We get it, you're pissed off, you should probably vent your rage to a customer support email instead of shitting on these forums and getting yourself banned.


Say you don't like an event and won't watch it -> get banned? I certainly hope not. I'm not watching and I'm not angry. All I'm saying is that MLG seriously need to improve their production.


Yes, you are being angry, and you are also being overly entitled. Appreciate what you have instead of whining about something this trivial in the long run.

"I shouldn't have to do that" lol


If I was watching football, I wouldn't be expected to watch a channel which froze every 10 seconds. I also wouldn't be expected to have to change settings on my TV to watch it. If Starcraft 2 and esports as a whole are going to become legitimately mainstream then poor production and accepting low standards shouldn't be the norm. It shouldn't be acceptable to require people to fiddle around in settings which the average person won't have extensive knowledge of because that excludes a part of the population and limits the reach of the sport.

I voiced my concerns with the poor production and said that I wouldn't be watching. At this point three or four people took it upon themselves to rally round and largely make personal attacks about how I should be banned or how I'm overly entitled. Esports succeeding doesn't come from blindly supporting everything in a fanatic manner. It comes from making it an enjoyable experience that everyone has access to. By having poor production that requires workarounds, MLG exclude that access to a large number of people. The people who don't have extensive knowledge of chrome settings, don't have a multitude of browsers and don't go on TL may have been excluded from this event. That hurts the growth of esports.

So does the community accepting a lower standard because then that standard becomes just that; acceptable. Once lower effort becomes acceptable it'll likely become the norm, and having lower access to people on the fringe of esports who may become involved will likely deter them from becoming involved permanently. And when this becomes the standard for events that makes it much harder for esports as a whole to succeed, because a lower standard is commonplace and its a much more enjoyable experience to watch football where you don't need to fiddle with settings to watch.

I'm not angry, and I'm not being overly entitled, but if Starcraft 2 is going to succeed then this level of production is unacceptable. All I stated was that I'm not watching this event when the production is this poor. Accepting this standard would be damaging to esports and I'm not going to be complicit with that.


You're not going to waste your time on MLG's streams.

Instead you're going to waste everyone's time by complaining not once but multiple times on TL.

Congratulations you have no life.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
August 24 2012 22:24 GMT
#1217
On August 25 2012 07:21 Swiv wrote:
suits and these BIG headphone jus don't....... suit.


Indeed - would have been slick if he had something like a Khaldor style mic which should work quite well and be more subtle here.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
August 24 2012 22:25 GMT
#1218
On August 25 2012 07:01 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 07:00 opterown wrote:
On August 25 2012 07:00 Yonnua wrote:
"use an alternate browser". -> turns on IE -> no video. Boycotting MLG for this tournament. Shoddy work.

try firefox



Or,

Use this fix:

type "chrome://plugins" intro address bar and you will see 3 versions of flash, disable the "pepperflash" version and you will be good.

Then reload the stream. If you have gold, you may have to log out of the mlg store and log back in.

Tyvm! You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 24 2012 22:25 GMT
#1219
On August 25 2012 07:21 eviltomahawk wrote:
Apollo so handome <3

He sure is, and fittingly, the suit suits him! Good with some decent eyecandy instead of commercials ;D
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
August 24 2012 22:25 GMT
#1220
What's the point of this analysis ?
Prev 1 59 60 61 62 63 155 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
PiGosaur Cup #68
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech127
RuFF_SC2 123
CosmosSc2 44
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6162
Artosis 615
PiGStarcraft376
NaDa 17
Terrorterran 11
Dota 2
monkeys_forever490
NeuroSwarm195
League of Legends
JimRising 525
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe187
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor139
Other Games
summit1g9775
C9.Mang0580
Day[9].tv361
Maynarde105
SpeCial95
minikerr8
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick988
BasetradeTV231
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream155
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH153
• Hupsaiya 74
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra2573
• Day9tv361
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 12m
Afreeca Starleague
8h 12m
Leta vs YSC
GSL
1d 7h
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
1d 22h
GSL
2 days
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Escore
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
IPSL
5 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.