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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 20 2012 10:15 GMT
#421
On August 20 2012 19:13 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

creator's 'weakness' is stage fright i feel


if Creator could get over that he could be as good as seed and win a GSL

Seed is like Creator except with the heart of a champion
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 20 2012 10:15 GMT
#422
One blink and Creator is dead
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 20 2012 10:16 GMT
#423
On August 20 2012 19:15 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:13 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

creator's 'weakness' is stage fright i feel


if Creator could get over that he could be as good as seed and win a GSL

Seed is like Creator except with the heart of a champion

i personally reckon creator is a stronger/better player than seed (with both at their best) but ofc i am biased haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 20 2012 10:16 GMT
#424
Creator should be fine now though...has a massive supply lead too o.o
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 20 2012 10:17 GMT
#425
On August 20 2012 19:16 8mmspikes wrote:
Creator should be fine now though...has a massive supply lead too o.o

wow, how? hrmm
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4560 Posts
August 20 2012 10:17 GMT
#426
On August 20 2012 19:16 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:15 Dodgin wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

creator's 'weakness' is stage fright i feel


if Creator could get over that he could be as good as seed and win a GSL

Seed is like Creator except with the heart of a champion

i personally reckon creator is a stronger/better player than seed (with both at their best) but ofc i am biased haha

i agree too. seeds just more relaxed but i feel creator is overall the best protoss player atm
hi. big fan.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 20 2012 10:17 GMT
#427
wtf i just noticed, that the obs for the korean stream are different to the eng stream, i always thought they were the same and both korean and eng casters just cast the same thing 0_o
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4560 Posts
August 20 2012 10:17 GMT
#428
On August 20 2012 19:17 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:16 8mmspikes wrote:
Creator should be fine now though...has a massive supply lead too o.o

wow, how? hrmm

probe lead
hi. big fan.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 20 2012 10:17 GMT
#429
On August 20 2012 19:16 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:15 Dodgin wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

creator's 'weakness' is stage fright i feel


if Creator could get over that he could be as good as seed and win a GSL

Seed is like Creator except with the heart of a champion

i personally reckon creator is a stronger/better player than seed (with both at their best) but ofc i am biased haha


I think Creator might be more purely skilled but that's not even close to the only thing that matters in sc2

Mvp doesn't have the micro of marineking or the macro of bomber but he makes up for it in other areas
sagichu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States280 Posts
August 20 2012 10:17 GMT
#430
lol creator slowly killing probes with 2 phoenix
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
August 20 2012 10:18 GMT
#431
oh god pvp.... zzzzzzzzzzzzz

even when there is tons of action going on it's hella boring ><
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4560 Posts
August 20 2012 10:18 GMT
#432
On August 20 2012 19:17 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:16 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:15 Dodgin wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

creator's 'weakness' is stage fright i feel


if Creator could get over that he could be as good as seed and win a GSL

Seed is like Creator except with the heart of a champion

i personally reckon creator is a stronger/better player than seed (with both at their best) but ofc i am biased haha


I think Creator might be more purely skilled but that's not even close to the only thing that matters in sc2

Mvp doesn't have the micro of marineking or the macro of bomber but he makes up for it in other areas


agreed, i think he also has the most potential of any player atm too.
hi. big fan.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 10:19:04
August 20 2012 10:18 GMT
#433
On August 20 2012 19:17 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:16 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:15 Dodgin wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

creator's 'weakness' is stage fright i feel


if Creator could get over that he could be as good as seed and win a GSL

Seed is like Creator except with the heart of a champion

i personally reckon creator is a stronger/better player than seed (with both at their best) but ofc i am biased haha

i agree too. seeds just more relaxed but i feel creator is overall the best protoss player atm

by the glicko ranking system creator is the best toss and #3 player in the world:
http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players

On August 20 2012 19:18 Talack wrote:
oh god pvp.... zzzzzzzzzzzzz

even when there is tons of action going on it's hella boring ><

first game was pretty good mang!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4560 Posts
August 20 2012 10:19 GMT
#434
On August 20 2012 19:18 Talack wrote:
oh god pvp.... zzzzzzzzzzzzz

even when there is tons of action going on it's hella boring ><

serious? hmm weird.
hi. big fan.
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
August 20 2012 10:19 GMT
#435
dramastically is a good word.
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 20 2012 10:19 GMT
#436
On August 20 2012 19:18 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:17 FataLe wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:16 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:15 Dodgin wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

creator's 'weakness' is stage fright i feel


if Creator could get over that he could be as good as seed and win a GSL

Seed is like Creator except with the heart of a champion

i personally reckon creator is a stronger/better player than seed (with both at their best) but ofc i am biased haha

i agree too. seeds just more relaxed but i feel creator is overall the best protoss player atm

by the glicko ranking system creator is the best toss and #3 player in the world:
http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:18 Talack wrote:
oh god pvp.... zzzzzzzzzzzzz

even when there is tons of action going on it's hella boring ><

first game was pretty good mang!

Never heard of this ranking system o.o
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-20 10:20:58
August 20 2012 10:20 GMT
#437
On August 20 2012 19:19 8mmspikes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:18 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:17 FataLe wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:16 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:15 Dodgin wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

creator's 'weakness' is stage fright i feel


if Creator could get over that he could be as good as seed and win a GSL

Seed is like Creator except with the heart of a champion

i personally reckon creator is a stronger/better player than seed (with both at their best) but ofc i am biased haha

i agree too. seeds just more relaxed but i feel creator is overall the best protoss player atm

by the glicko ranking system creator is the best toss and #3 player in the world:
http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players

On August 20 2012 19:18 Talack wrote:
oh god pvp.... zzzzzzzzzzzzz

even when there is tons of action going on it's hella boring ><

first game was pretty good mang!

Never heard of this ranking system o.o

apparently it's a tweaked ELO that accounts for players who don't play as often?
i think it moves a tad slowly though (TL ELO moves very quickly)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glicko_rating_system
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
August 20 2012 10:20 GMT
#438
On August 20 2012 19:18 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:17 Dodgin wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:16 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:15 Dodgin wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

creator's 'weakness' is stage fright i feel


if Creator could get over that he could be as good as seed and win a GSL

Seed is like Creator except with the heart of a champion

i personally reckon creator is a stronger/better player than seed (with both at their best) but ofc i am biased haha


I think Creator might be more purely skilled but that's not even close to the only thing that matters in sc2

Mvp doesn't have the micro of marineking or the macro of bomber but he makes up for it in other areas


agreed, i think he also has the most potential of any player atm too.

You are so right about this part MVP has better micro and macro than both :D
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 20 2012 10:20 GMT
#439
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

I'm not entirely convinced on creator's control, he seems very a move happy in PvT and his bizzare "Blink stalkers counter absolutely everything ever" thing he sometimes does in PvZ is amazingly wtf.
Glorious SEA doto
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4560 Posts
August 20 2012 10:20 GMT
#440
On August 20 2012 19:18 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:17 FataLe wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:16 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:15 Dodgin wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 opterown wrote:
On August 20 2012 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
I think the most dangerous thing about Creator is that he has no weak matchup

he was known for a pvt expert at first but now he destroys in all 3

Seed too, I think they are both going to be #1 and #2 Protoss in the future.

MC seems too weak PvT but he can change that I guess

creator's 'weakness' is stage fright i feel


if Creator could get over that he could be as good as seed and win a GSL

Seed is like Creator except with the heart of a champion

i personally reckon creator is a stronger/better player than seed (with both at their best) but ofc i am biased haha

i agree too. seeds just more relaxed but i feel creator is overall the best protoss player atm

by the glicko ranking system creator is the best toss and #3 player in the world:
http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/ranking/players

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2012 19:18 Talack wrote:
oh god pvp.... zzzzzzzzzzzzz

even when there is tons of action going on it's hella boring ><

first game was pretty good mang!

never heard of the site, is there a link to it on TL? a write up?
hi. big fan.
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