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On August 19 2012 21:45 sam05396 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 21:44 Pandain wrote:On August 19 2012 21:40 Killmouse wrote:On August 19 2012 21:36 Pandain wrote:On August 19 2012 21:34 Killmouse wrote:On August 19 2012 21:33 Makro wrote:
btw even fighting games have more viewers than starcraft 2 yea sc2 is dyin  What? Was this sarcasm? SC2 esports has never been bigger, and the viewer base is going to explode after HOTS is released, of course in between expansions viewership will go down.And this is IEM lol, not the highest priority for a sc2 fan. Especially a ZvZ yeah ofc after hots sc2 will gain again many many viewers, but right now , it is not the same viewerbase as last year, i remeber mlg goin 1000 pages, tsl gettin 60-70 k viewers since ro 32, etc etc I think getting 30k for an IEM ZvZ is amazing in itself, especially considering the really awkward time for NA. If you really want to judge the state of starcraft, always look at the crowd. This crowd is fucking huge(if you've seen the panorama on reddit), and its fucking passionate. To come all the way for an IEM in a ZvZ between (only) nerchio and violet is amazing. I won't be suprised if we reach 40-50k during the MVP match, and even 60k if MVP makes it to the finals. For TSL, keep in mind that THAT was the BIGGEST TOURNAMENT of its kind back then. Yeah there was GSL/MLG, but they weren't of the real same "prestige" that TSL had. It was the first TSL that 90% of the new wave of teamliquiders had a chance to expiriencee.... I am so happy with the state of esports, and HOTS is going to do so much for the game I think it'll be bigger than we can even imagine today. i would imagine over 60K for an mvp finals because lol will be over by then(they are in grand finals now), and it will be a t a much better time -edit- although not 175k like LoL is
Definitely not 175k. The thing with LoL is that its free to play, and that attracts a much wider audience than any paid retail version. Especially with it being such a "hot" thing lately ^^.
I'm a big believer of quality over quanity, and I think the passion and depth of Starcraft (in my opinion) overshadows LoL, despite viewer numbers. The fact to me that Starcraft can even match half the viewers of LoL sometimes is a testament to my view, but obviously I fully respect LoL and understand its a skill-intensive game.
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On August 19 2012 21:48 Pandain wrote:
Violet is such a true hero, coming to the US and truly embracing it. I consider him an honorary foreignor, and his rise to tournament dominance lately is so inspiring to watch.
Go violet!
Just wondering, would you guys be more excited for a MVP-Violet, or an MVP-Nerchio match?
I just want Mvp to absolutely annihilate whoever he plays.
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On August 19 2012 21:49 Acritter wrote:
Vortix is in a lose-lose situation here. If he gets taken down by MVP, he's out of the tournament. But if he wins against MVP, he knocks out a fan favorite and ensures ZvZ finals. Poor guy.
i am quite sure that he doesnt feel about it being lose-lose.
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I bet MLG hides the viewer count for their streams to avoid people in the LR only talking about league of legends
smart guy mlg
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what happens when you destroy nydus worm and nydus canal with tons of units inside ? are they dead ? nerchio had posibility to do this
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On August 19 2012 21:50 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 21:48 Pandain wrote:
Violet is such a true hero, coming to the US and truly embracing it. I consider him an honorary foreignor, and his rise to tournament dominance lately is so inspiring to watch.
Go violet!
Just wondering, would you guys be more excited for a MVP-Violet, or an MVP-Nerchio match? I just want Mvp to absolutely annihilate whoever he plays.
yeah me 2 , gogo mvp
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On August 19 2012 21:50 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 21:48 Pandain wrote:
Violet is such a true hero, coming to the US and truly embracing it. I consider him an honorary foreignor, and his rise to tournament dominance lately is so inspiring to watch.
Go violet!
Just wondering, would you guys be more excited for a MVP-Violet, or an MVP-Nerchio match? I just want Mvp to absolutely annihilate whoever he plays.
Someone who understands me.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 19 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
I bet MLG hides the viewer count for their streams to avoid people in the LR only talking about league of legends
smart guy mlg
You can't deny riot got some good marketing going, SC2 guys are giving LoL even more publicity.
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On August 19 2012 21:51 wildstyle1337 wrote:
what happens when you destroy nydus worm and nydus canal with tons of units inside ? are they dead ? nerchio had posibility to do this
Yup. All gone.
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On August 19 2012 21:51 wildstyle1337 wrote:
what happens when you destroy nydus worm and nydus canal with tons of units inside ? are they dead ? nerchio had posibility to do this
yeah the supply vanishes, gg units haha
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On August 19 2012 21:51 icecreamlolz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 21:49 Acritter wrote:
Vortix is in a lose-lose situation here. If he gets taken down by MVP, he's out of the tournament. But if he wins against MVP, he knocks out a fan favorite and ensures ZvZ finals. Poor guy. i am quite sure that he doesnt feel about it being lose-lose.
easily not lose-lose if he beats mvp, then this tournament he has beat forgg supernova and mvp, all in a row... wtf?
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im not liking this replay thing D:
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On August 19 2012 21:51 wildstyle1337 wrote:
what happens when you destroy nydus worm and nydus canal with tons of units inside ? are they dead ? nerchio had posibility to do this
wat. i've never thought of that. probably haha
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On August 19 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
I bet MLG hides the viewer count for their streams to avoid people in the LR only talking about league of legends
smart guy mlg
I think it would be the greatest troll in the world if Starcraft 2 actually WASN'T big, and MLG made up all of its post-release viewership numbers.
If MLG actually only got like 500 viewers I would die laughing content.
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On August 19 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
I bet MLG hides the viewer count for their streams to avoid people in the LR only talking about league of legends
smart guy mlg
MLG has hide viewer count since practically forever,since halo was king
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On August 19 2012 21:51 wildstyle1337 wrote:
what happens when you destroy nydus worm and nydus canal with tons of units inside ? are they dead ? nerchio had posibility to do this
If you destroy all the worms and the network itself, the units inside all die
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Come on Nerchio, fearing a 100% korean finals (yeah, let the raging commence) if Violet wins as I can't see MVP losing.
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I wonder, in such a late game ZvZ situation, if you scout a greater spire and you yourself have a greater spire, wouldn't it be a good idea NOT to make bl, just corruptors?
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
On August 19 2012 21:52 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
I bet MLG hides the viewer count for their streams to avoid people in the LR only talking about league of legends
smart guy mlg I think it would be the greatest troll in the world if Starcraft 2 actually WASN'T big, and MLG made up all of its post-release viewership numbers. If MLG actually only got like 500 viewers I would die laughing content.
not nice
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On August 19 2012 21:50 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 21:45 sam05396 wrote:On August 19 2012 21:44 Pandain wrote:On August 19 2012 21:40 Killmouse wrote:On August 19 2012 21:36 Pandain wrote:On August 19 2012 21:34 Killmouse wrote:On August 19 2012 21:33 Makro wrote:
btw even fighting games have more viewers than starcraft 2 yea sc2 is dyin What? Was this sarcasm? SC2 esports has never been bigger, and the viewer base is going to explode after HOTS is released, of course in between expansions viewership will go down.And this is IEM lol, not the highest priority for a sc2 fan. Especially a ZvZ yeah ofc after hots sc2 will gain again many many viewers, but right now , it is not the same viewerbase as last year, i remeber mlg goin 1000 pages, tsl gettin 60-70 k viewers since ro 32, etc etc I think getting 30k for an IEM ZvZ is amazing in itself, especially considering the really awkward time for NA. If you really want to judge the state of starcraft, always look at the crowd. This crowd is fucking huge(if you've seen the panorama on reddit), and its fucking passionate. To come all the way for an IEM in a ZvZ between (only) nerchio and violet is amazing. I won't be suprised if we reach 40-50k during the MVP match, and even 60k if MVP makes it to the finals. For TSL, keep in mind that THAT was the BIGGEST TOURNAMENT of its kind back then. Yeah there was GSL/MLG, but they weren't of the real same "prestige" that TSL had. It was the first TSL that 90% of the new wave of teamliquiders had a chance to expiriencee.... I am so happy with the state of esports, and HOTS is going to do so much for the game I think it'll be bigger than we can even imagine today. i would imagine over 60K for an mvp finals because lol will be over by then(they are in grand finals now), and it will be a t a much better time -edit- although not 175k like LoL is Definitely not 175k. The thing with LoL is that its free to play, and that attracts a much wider audience than any paid retail version. Especially with it being such a "hot" thing lately ^^. I'm a big believer of quality over quanity, and I think the passion and depth of Starcraft (in my opinion) overshadows LoL, despite viewer numbers. The fact to me that Starcraft can even match half the viewers of LoL sometimes is a testament to my view, but obviously I fully respect LoL and understand its a skill-intensive game.
Huh, what a refreshingly positive and polite stance towards LoL. We need more people like you around here :p
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