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As usual, don't player bash, don't flame, and don't balance whine. Failure to heed this warning will have consequences.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
August 19 2012 12:27 GMT
#561
On August 19 2012 21:27 Ysellian wrote:
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On August 19 2012 21:24 Roggay wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:23 Medrea wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:21 sam05396 wrote:
LoL has 150k viewers... woah


They put the stream right in the games frontend so getting a straight answer on if those views are real or not is impossible.

Its just a link actually, you have to click it and it opens the stream on your browser.
But you have to admit that it is brilliantly promoted. Wish Blizzard would do that :/


Still the majority of people don't bother to watch. There are millions of people playing LoL that have never seen a pro-game.


Anyways, it's about accessibility, a key thing you know.
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
August 19 2012 12:27 GMT
#562
On August 19 2012 21:25 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:23 Medrea wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:21 sam05396 wrote:
LoL has 150k viewers... woah


They put the stream right in the games frontend so getting a straight answer on if those views are real or not is impossible.

could u expand on that i dont understand, are u saying the streamer is making the numbers bigger than they really are?


He's saying Riot promote events way better than Blizzard. Imagine loading up SC2 and most of your screen being a big IEM advert with a stream link.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 12:28:27
August 19 2012 12:28 GMT
#563
On August 19 2012 21:25 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:23 Medrea wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:21 sam05396 wrote:
LoL has 150k viewers... woah


They put the stream right in the games frontend so getting a straight answer on if those views are real or not is impossible.

could u expand on that i dont understand, are u saying the streamer is making the numbers bigger than they really are?


He's wrong because it doesn't autoplay or anything so viewer count is just the # of people watching.

They do however publicise streams of tournaments heavily in the client which is a fantastic way of letting people know that there is something on that they can watch right this second with one mouse click.

I expect to see it in HotS if Blizzard are actually serious about esports.

I'd like to see it for the WCS finals too this year.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
August 19 2012 12:28 GMT
#564
IEM always have problems attracting sc2 viewers for some reason, and their production values aren't even that bad.

For the last 2 years best IEM for sc2 caps around 40-50k, with most of them around 20k. Pitiful compare to MLG/dreamhack/GSL or even iron squad
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 19 2012 12:28 GMT
#565
When does a smile become a smirk and when were you supposed not to smile when you win? Feels like I'm out of touch here.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4528 Posts
August 19 2012 12:28 GMT
#566
On August 19 2012 21:25 ToyOmnibus wrote:
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On August 19 2012 21:21 FataLe wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:20 ToyOmnibus wrote:
Damn, this kid should go to GSL. I bet he will win every GSL title for the next.... like..... infinity.

i agree my borhther


"Brother" my best friend, its "brother". Well Nerchio would indeed win every GSL from now till the end of time. However, he will never feel the touch of a woman or the warmth of friendship. But who needs that when your winning 1.700k in tournaments.

but bruter. dont u think making 10k/day will allow him to buy those fiscal things?
hi. big fan.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 19 2012 12:28 GMT
#567
On August 19 2012 21:23 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:21 sam05396 wrote:
LoL has 150k viewers... woah


They put the stream right in the games frontend so getting a straight answer on if those views are real or not is impossible.


false, they just have a link not the stream itself, the numbers would be out of hand if it was the case
Zest fanboy.
Simsallabin
Profile Joined June 2012
Nepal216 Posts
August 19 2012 12:28 GMT
#568
On August 19 2012 21:27 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:24 Roggay wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:23 Medrea wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:21 sam05396 wrote:
LoL has 150k viewers... woah


They put the stream right in the games frontend so getting a straight answer on if those views are real or not is impossible.

Its just a link actually, you have to click it and it opens the stream on your browser.
But you have to admit that it is brilliantly promoted. Wish Blizzard would do that :/


Still the majority of people don't bother to watch. There are millions of people playing LoL that have never seen a pro-game, in fact Sc2 is far more watched by % of userbase.


Can you show me the number you used to make that statement?
Woop!
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 19 2012 12:29 GMT
#569
On August 19 2012 21:27 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:25 sam05396 wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:23 Medrea wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:21 sam05396 wrote:
LoL has 150k viewers... woah


They put the stream right in the games frontend so getting a straight answer on if those views are real or not is impossible.

could u expand on that i dont understand, are u saying the streamer is making the numbers bigger than they really are?


If its not directly embedded they link to it and people have been saying the links get counted as well or something. I dunno. There was a big deal about it awhile ago not sure what happened with it.

aww ok, well i think that it is important that we note that is their grand finals so if that is over and sc2 grand finals are on our numbers should go way up!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 19 2012 12:29 GMT
#570
On August 19 2012 21:26 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:21 sam05396 wrote:
LoL has 150k viewers... woah


LoL is played by 30M people.
SC2 barely in the million.

I found our viewers number way more impressive :o

Wait, does that mean that even 10% does not watch LoL tournaments?
Wow, never knew that! Thanks
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 19 2012 12:29 GMT
#571
On August 19 2012 21:28 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:23 Medrea wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:21 sam05396 wrote:
LoL has 150k viewers... woah


They put the stream right in the games frontend so getting a straight answer on if those views are real or not is impossible.


false, they just have a link not the stream itself, the numbers would be out of hand if it was the case


It was a bigger deal awhile ago, calm down.
twitch.tv/medrea
transcendent one
Profile Joined July 2012
251 Posts
August 19 2012 12:29 GMT
#572
On August 19 2012 21:24 Vaftrudner wrote:
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On August 19 2012 21:23 Simsallabin wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:21 CryMeAReaper wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:20 The_Unseen wrote:
I'm really, really trying not to hate on Nerchio's smirk after the games, but it's really unsettling.


The dudes just happy to win lol, be it a smirk/smile/fistpump w/e, at least he shows some kind of emotion after a win, unlike a lot of other players ^^


Problem is that he whines and cries like a baby when he loose. Good player but very much a douche.

He's just like Naniwa, kind of a dick, but such a good player that I don't even care. I just straight up love them.


he is nothing like naniwa. nerchio is actually a nice person, he's just frustrated when he loses. naniwa is permanent douche


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TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
August 19 2012 12:29 GMT
#573
On August 19 2012 21:25 ToyOmnibus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:21 FataLe wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:20 ToyOmnibus wrote:
Damn, this kid should go to GSL. I bet he will win every GSL title for the next.... like..... infinity.

i agree my borhther


"Brother" my best friend, its "brother". Well Nerchio would indeed win every GSL from now till the end of time. However, he will never feel the touch of a woman or the warmth of friendship. But who needs that when your winning 1.700k in tournaments.


I'm pretty sure you can get "the touch of a woman" for less than 1700k in most countries.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4528 Posts
August 19 2012 12:29 GMT
#574
On August 19 2012 21:29 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:26 Noocta wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:21 sam05396 wrote:
LoL has 150k viewers... woah


LoL is played by 30M people.
SC2 barely in the million.

I found our viewers number way more impressive :o

Wait, does that mean that even 10% does not watch LoL tournaments?
Wow, never knew that! Thanks

free game = tons and tons of casuals
hi. big fan.
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 19 2012 12:29 GMT
#575
On August 19 2012 21:26 Simsallabin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:24 Vaftrudner wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:23 Simsallabin wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:21 CryMeAReaper wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:20 The_Unseen wrote:
I'm really, really trying not to hate on Nerchio's smirk after the games, but it's really unsettling.


The dudes just happy to win lol, be it a smirk/smile/fistpump w/e, at least he shows some kind of emotion after a win, unlike a lot of other players ^^


Problem is that he whines and cries like a baby when he loose. Good player but very much a douche.

He's just like Naniwa, kind of a dick, but such a good player that I don't even care. I just straight up love them.


Eww just the two players I really dislike But good that not everyone like the same players or it would get boring

It's one thing if you're a dick with nothing to show, but when you've knocked MC out of a tournament, I don't care if you bite the head off kittens in your spare time, I'm going to respect your play.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 19 2012 12:29 GMT
#576
On August 19 2012 21:27 skrotcyk wrote:
I don't understand this with starcraft2 fans.. Why do you dislike so much if a player shows some kind of emotions after they win/lose, do you really want them just to fucking sit there not doing/giving a fk when they win?


Its not about "emotions", its about his particular smirk combined with the fact that he has behaved like a whining child when he lost games before. But I agree that its a useless thing to talk about. He wins and is allowed to have whatever expression on his face that he wants.
rast
Profile Joined July 2012
Poland44 Posts
August 19 2012 12:30 GMT
#577
Lol guys, you accuse Nerchio of being BM every game with his "smirk", but in fact he's just happy that he won a game, whats wrong with that?

The one being BM are you, guys. Ther's nothing wrong with being happy.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 19 2012 12:30 GMT
#578
On August 19 2012 21:28 iky43210 wrote:
IEM always have problems attracting sc2 viewers for some reason, and their production values aren't even that bad.

For the last 2 years best IEM for sc2 caps around 40-50k, with most of them around 20k. Pitiful compare to MLG/dreamhack/GSL or even iron squad

hope this changes in the next season, i'm really enjoying this!
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 12:30:23
August 19 2012 12:30 GMT
#579
is ZvZ so boring that we'd rather talk bout LOL ^_^?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4528 Posts
August 19 2012 12:30 GMT
#580
On August 19 2012 21:29 transcendent one wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2012 21:24 Vaftrudner wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:23 Simsallabin wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:21 CryMeAReaper wrote:
On August 19 2012 21:20 The_Unseen wrote:
I'm really, really trying not to hate on Nerchio's smirk after the games, but it's really unsettling.


The dudes just happy to win lol, be it a smirk/smile/fistpump w/e, at least he shows some kind of emotion after a win, unlike a lot of other players ^^


Problem is that he whines and cries like a baby when he loose. Good player but very much a douche.

He's just like Naniwa, kind of a dick, but such a good player that I don't even care. I just straight up love them.


he is nothing like naniwa. nerchio is actually a nice person, he's just frustrated when he loses. naniwa is permanent douche

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