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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#721
On August 16 2012 19:07 Ryps wrote:
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On August 16 2012 19:05 kaokentake wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354772&currentpage=20

DEMUSLIM IS NOW WORLD CHAMPION!! DEMUSLIM IS NOW WORLD CHAMPION!!

title defense against forgg soon

darkforce beat nerchio, puma beat darkforce, forgg beat puma. FORGG new WC, get your facts straight son !


only live events count, TSL is a online event
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#722
On August 16 2012 19:06 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:04 sAsImre wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:03 CrugerDK wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:00 Dosey wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:57 hagga wrote:
Is Nerchio seriously only using one control group for his whole army? No wonder infestors dropping like flies

He doesn't use very many control groups. I remember someone saying how insulting it was for MC to lose to someone who only had 3 control groups the entire match. Back during HSC


Stephano only uses 4 aswell.


The problem isn't the use of many control groups.
The problem is the 1a syndrom, something Stephano avoids almost completely in most of his games by positionning carefully his army and going for a bajillions flanks like all good Z should do but most of them still don't have the memo in august 2012...

It's unbelievably infuriating, I mean most of these guys still compete by A-moving their entire armies all over the place. Just a little more care and they'd roll over their opponents in these kind of games


maybe a mechanical ceiling since there is a LOT of management that has to be done in late game as a Z. His creep spread was decent but not that great too, still waiting to see 20+creep tumors active like top kor Z are used to do
Zest fanboy.
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
August 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#723
--- Nuked ---
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#724
TASTOSIS FINALLY :3
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
August 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#725
On August 16 2012 19:07 X3GoldDot wrote:
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On August 16 2012 19:05 shepherdxoxo wrote:
That's why the games of Jaedong were so incredibly fun to watch (versus sC)! He had small groups of lings/banelings everywhere instead of just running around with a huge clump of 'm :D BW HWAITING!!111!


dont go into random threads and say stuff that isnt even relevant to the thread rofl

Was a relevant point, coming from the 'all units on 1 hotkey, A-move in a clump' play we saw that game

Still preferable to Stephano fans popping up in every single tournament where he isn't there, unless similarly relevant (which the guy a few posts up was)
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 16 2012 10:08 GMT
#726
Oh thank God!!! Tastosis finally.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#727
Tasteless slapping the lame crowd into action, shape em up champ!
Rhodan
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia232 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#728
Inori is back and Tastosis are on! Hell yeah
I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok." - Liquid`Tyler
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#729
These shirts
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#730
this german crowd is very german
Dan "Artosis" Stark: Roaches are coming, Game of Drones begins!
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#731
On August 16 2012 19:06 sVnteen wrote:
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On August 16 2012 19:02 The KY wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:59 sVnteen wrote:
god demuslim getting so lucky
with 3-3 nerchio would have completely destroyed him...


Is it luck if your opponent makes a mistake and therefore plays worse?

I thought Demuslim did very well. Really stayed on 4 bases for way too long, a planetary at the other expo would have been difficult to get up but not impossible, and some well placed sim city bunkers at his expansions would not have gone amiss at all but otherwise a rather well played marauder style TvZ.


forgetting 3-3 is not "playing worse"
that happesn to nerchio maybe 1 out of 200 games so it is quite lucky for demuslim don't you thing

if nerchio would have had 3-3 in that big engagement he would have won quite easily and killed him with the broodlord followup


You win by your opponents mistakes do you not? Was Nerchio unlucky to have Demuslim be in good positions to poach his infestors repeatedly?
Maybe it's a mistake he makes once in a month but it's still a mistake. He could have researched it, he didn't, that's playing worse.
No one plays perfect and Demuslim played better.
jnsjr
Profile Joined February 2011
United States461 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#732
Man, Inori looks alot like a young ForGG. I .. can't.. unsee.. -__-
Z: Idra #1 Stephano JD Scarlett Dimaga Life Violet DRG Sen; T: Demuslim Puma Illusion Bomber Polt TSpoon Strelok; P: Hasuobs Huk; Casters: Apollo #1 Axslav DJWheat Tasteless Bitter Artosis Incontrol RSimpson Psy Team: Let's GO EG!!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#733
On August 16 2012 19:08 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:06 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:04 sAsImre wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:03 CrugerDK wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:00 Dosey wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:57 hagga wrote:
Is Nerchio seriously only using one control group for his whole army? No wonder infestors dropping like flies

He doesn't use very many control groups. I remember someone saying how insulting it was for MC to lose to someone who only had 3 control groups the entire match. Back during HSC


Stephano only uses 4 aswell.


The problem isn't the use of many control groups.
The problem is the 1a syndrom, something Stephano avoids almost completely in most of his games by positionning carefully his army and going for a bajillions flanks like all good Z should do but most of them still don't have the memo in august 2012...

It's unbelievably infuriating, I mean most of these guys still compete by A-moving their entire armies all over the place. Just a little more care and they'd roll over their opponents in these kind of games


maybe a mechanical ceiling since there is a LOT of management that has to be done in late game as a Z. His creep spread was decent but not that great too, still waiting to see 20+creep tumors active like top kor Z are used to do

It's a common thing though, especially with 'patchzergs'
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#734
On August 16 2012 19:07 Pandemona wrote:
On the topic of DeMuslim going to do same build vs any zerg he faces which makes sense imo. How do zergs deal with it? Ling Infestor seems the only way but u have to be pretty good doing that and hit a BLord timing well. Ben proved that aslong as he had the 1minute to pump the vikings out he needed he can kill the Blords and hard counter the ultra switch by continuning his MMM he had all game :S

Seems like the best build for terran right now MMM + Seige, and make sure u have 2-3 starports around 15minutes =P


kill the medivacs and ling/infest with decent control is enough.
Zest fanboy.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#735
Great crowd :/
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 16 2012 10:09 GMT
#736
On August 16 2012 19:07 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:06 sVnteen wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:02 The KY wrote:
On August 16 2012 18:59 sVnteen wrote:
god demuslim getting so lucky
with 3-3 nerchio would have completely destroyed him...


Is it luck if your opponent makes a mistake and therefore plays worse?

I thought Demuslim did very well. Really stayed on 4 bases for way too long, a planetary at the other expo would have been difficult to get up but not impossible, and some well placed sim city bunkers at his expansions would not have gone amiss at all but otherwise a rather well played marauder style TvZ.


forgetting 3-3 is not "playing worse"
that happesn to nerchio maybe 1 out of 200 games so it is quite lucky for demuslim don't you thing

if nerchio would have had 3-3 in that big engagement he would have won quite easily and killed him with the broodlord followup

It's definitely playing worse. Nerchio played poorly and lost. Better players never "forget" 3/3.

haha srsly?
like because mma attacked his own CC and killed it he is a worse player?
yeah good logic
because he doensn't know that that is probably not a good idea right? ok
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
August 16 2012 10:10 GMT
#737
wtf is this crowd? so underwhelming.
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
August 16 2012 10:10 GMT
#738
Tastosis are here?
Tastosis are here??!!
Artosis is still talking about how Puma was one of the best practice partners in BW??!!!

Fuck yeah.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 10:11:11
August 16 2012 10:10 GMT
#739
On August 16 2012 19:09 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:07 Pandemona wrote:
On the topic of DeMuslim going to do same build vs any zerg he faces which makes sense imo. How do zergs deal with it? Ling Infestor seems the only way but u have to be pretty good doing that and hit a BLord timing well. Ben proved that aslong as he had the 1minute to pump the vikings out he needed he can kill the Blords and hard counter the ultra switch by continuning his MMM he had all game :S

Seems like the best build for terran right now MMM + Seige, and make sure u have 2-3 starports around 15minutes =P


kill the medivacs and ling/infest with decent control is enough.


But ur wasting fungals on medivacs then? :S You saw nerchio fungal twice on medivacs last game but in the process lost another 6-7 infestors for free cuz of it


Errr. no way is Inori 24? DA FUCK Asians look young xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 16 2012 10:10 GMT
#740
Tasteless describing PuMa exactly the opposite as Day9.
Never make a hydralisk.
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