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Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
August 15 2012 17:17 GMT
#3521
On August 16 2012 02:14 IntelEM wrote:
Our last match of today will be ForGG vs the winner of JYP / LucifroN. Meanwhile viOLet is walking around without stopping to look at his phone. For me it has been a phenomonal first day. I hope for you too. We deeply appreciate your support (and constructive criticism).

np, LR threads are very good at producing constructive criticism
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26360 Posts
August 15 2012 17:17 GMT
#3522
On August 16 2012 02:15 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:03 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:59 shabby wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:58 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:56 syllogism wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:54 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
raped


Please dont use that word, its highly offensive and innapropriate.

Is it more or less offensive than, say, "killer absolutely murdered him"? Just curious

More. Because you can basicly "kill/murder/frag someone" in a game. Rape is something completley different and it should never be used in a gaming context because its offensive.


You do know there are games where you rape, right? It is not different, just your opinion of it is, and we should not alter our langauge because you cannot control your emotions.


This is starcraft 2 and as far as i know, you cant rape people in it. Remember when "when cheese failed" used the R word in the first NASL season and the president of NASL had to publicly apologize or something like that?

its an offensive and distasteful word. If you kill someone in game, then you can obviously point out that you did it. but you cant make the same argument for rape.

Its about manners and common sense, not emotions.

Jesus, this has nothing to do with manners even. Its about being a decent human being. Rape isn't something to joke about, its horrific and it scars people for life. Its one of the worst things that can happen to someone. I have a close friend who was raped, she only recently started dealing with it. It has a daily negative effect on her. I won't say much more because, honestly, it makes me incredibly angry.

Don't use that word, not because you should be PC, not because people tell you not to, but rather because it can invoke the worst thing that has ever happened to a person.
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My father died recently, so the word death is naturally potentially upsetting for me, or phrases like 'wow you nearly gave me a heart attack', should people stop saying things on the off-chance that it can upset or offend?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 15 2012 17:18 GMT
#3523
On August 16 2012 02:17 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:16 Schelim wrote:
...and with that Grubby is the only foreigner to advance from the open bracket. pretty impressive imo.


Grubby didnt face any korean, did he ?


He knocked out ace and Oz.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 15 2012 17:18 GMT
#3524
On August 16 2012 02:17 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:16 Schelim wrote:
...and with that Grubby is the only foreigner to advance from the open bracket. pretty impressive imo.


Grubby didnt face any korean, did he ?


He knocked out two Koreans.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 15 2012 17:18 GMT
#3525
On August 16 2012 02:17 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:16 Schelim wrote:
...and with that Grubby is the only foreigner to advance from the open bracket. pretty impressive imo.


Grubby didnt face any korean, did he ?

He got spanked by MVP and beat Oz/Ace
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 15 2012 17:18 GMT
#3526
ForGG probably going to be the last player to advance I guess. JYPvT has improved but I still don't trust him in that mu.
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 15 2012 17:18 GMT
#3527
On August 16 2012 02:17 Fjodorov wrote:
Lucifrons plan was to mass ghosts, snipe the observer and kill JYP with his invisible army? Im not kidding, that seemed to be the plan.


Ghosts are really tanky and have a good dps against zealots, moreover emp is pretty good and they don't take additionnal damage from Stalker. In a perfect world all your bio units would be ghosts late game.
Zest fanboy.
Simsallabin
Profile Joined June 2012
Nepal216 Posts
August 15 2012 17:18 GMT
#3528
On August 16 2012 02:17 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:16 Schelim wrote:
...and with that Grubby is the only foreigner to advance from the open bracket. pretty impressive imo.


Grubby didnt face any korean, did he ?


Ofc he did, check the bracket.
Woop!
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 15 2012 17:18 GMT
#3529
On August 16 2012 02:17 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:16 Schelim wrote:
...and with that Grubby is the only foreigner to advance from the open bracket. pretty impressive imo.


Grubby didnt face any korean, did he ?


uh, he lost to MVP and beat Ace and Oz.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 15 2012 17:19 GMT
#3530
On August 16 2012 02:17 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:16 Schelim wrote:
...and with that Grubby is the only foreigner to advance from the open bracket. pretty impressive imo.


Grubby didnt face any korean, did he ?


He took out AcE and Oz... PvP, but still.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 15 2012 17:19 GMT
#3531
On August 16 2012 02:15 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:03 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:59 shabby wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:58 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:56 syllogism wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:54 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
raped


Please dont use that word, its highly offensive and innapropriate.

Is it more or less offensive than, say, "killer absolutely murdered him"? Just curious

More. Because you can basicly "kill/murder/frag someone" in a game. Rape is something completley different and it should never be used in a gaming context because its offensive.


You do know there are games where you rape, right? It is not different, just your opinion of it is, and we should not alter our langauge because you cannot control your emotions.


This is starcraft 2 and as far as i know, you cant rape people in it. Remember when "when cheese failed" used the R word in the first NASL season and the president of NASL had to publicly apologize or something like that?

its an offensive and distasteful word. If you kill someone in game, then you can obviously point out that you did it. but you cant make the same argument for rape.

Its about manners and common sense, not emotions.

Jesus, this has nothing to do with manners even. Its about being a decent human being. Rape isn't something to joke about, its horrific and it scars people for life. Its one of the worst things that can happen to someone. I have a close friend who was raped, she only recently started dealing with it. It has a daily negative effect on her. I won't say much more because, honestly, it makes me incredibly angry.

Don't use that word, not because you should be PC, not because people tell you not to, but rather because it can invoke the worst thing that has ever happened to a person.


Lets not use words like cancer, divorce, stillborn or slaughter either, because it can bring up bad memories for people whom those words have a special meaning.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
August 15 2012 17:19 GMT
#3532
On August 16 2012 02:17 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:16 Schelim wrote:
...and with that Grubby is the only foreigner to advance from the open bracket. pretty impressive imo.


Grubby didnt face any korean, did he ?

Only oz, ace and mvp.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 15 2012 17:19 GMT
#3533
On August 16 2012 02:17 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:16 Schelim wrote:
...and with that Grubby is the only foreigner to advance from the open bracket. pretty impressive imo.


Grubby didnt face any korean, did he ?


He beat Ace and Oz in clean games.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
sCFade
Profile Joined September 2010
307 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 17:20:22
August 15 2012 17:20 GMT
#3534
e: ah, nvm, fuck it
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
August 15 2012 17:20 GMT
#3535
JYP is pretty good in normal/macro games vs Terran, but his crisis management/cheese defense isn't that good. ForGG will be tough.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 15 2012 17:21 GMT
#3536
we need more people to tell him that grubby beat ace and oz
Terran & Potato Salad.
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
August 15 2012 17:21 GMT
#3537
This song has to be the winner of "Dumbest lyrics ever".
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Le BucheRON
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada619 Posts
August 15 2012 17:21 GMT
#3538
On August 16 2012 02:17 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:13 Chunhyang wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:08 shabby wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:03 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:59 shabby wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:58 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:56 syllogism wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:54 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 01:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
raped


Please dont use that word, its highly offensive and innapropriate.

Is it more or less offensive than, say, "killer absolutely murdered him"? Just curious

More. Because you can basicly "kill/murder/frag someone" in a game. Rape is something completley different and it should never be used in a gaming context because its offensive.


You do know there are games where you rape, right? It is not different, just your opinion of it is, and we should not alter our langauge because you cannot control your emotions.


This is starcraft 2 and as far as i know, you cant rape people in it. Remember when "when cheese failed" used the R word in the first NASL season and the president of NASL had to publicly apologize or something like that?

its an offensive and distasteful word. If you kill someone in game, then you can obviously point out that you did it. but you cant make the same argument for rape.

Its about manners and common sense, not emotions.


It is emotions, because you are immediately using the definition of forcefully having sex with someone, while rape can mean everything from abuse to violate and plunder etc. You can rape someones base in SC2 for instance. It is not an offensive and distasteful word, that is your opinion. A word is a word, and its context is what could be deemed offensive, not the words themselves, which only job is to describe something. You are making a case for that rape is a more offensive word than others, and that is based on your experiences and emotions with the word, and your associations with it.


Well, he does have a point though. 'Rape'. Some words have connotations that come with them, sometimes even regardless of the context they are used in. It's not always completely in the mind of the listener.

However, I do think 'rape' in this context though [gaming/competition] is ok. Usage and all. Custom. It's tolerable.


The guy is obviously trolling..If someone wants to say 'rape' or 'butt molested', thats his/her choice..You asking will only make them say it more.

Yes, but someday someone they love will be affected in this way and they'll be the ones that prefer others not to use this slang/terminology. Just grow up and use a better word that doesn't involve imagery of someone forcibly violating someone.
Guess who`s special?!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
August 15 2012 17:21 GMT
#3539
On August 16 2012 02:18 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:17 Godwrath wrote:
On August 16 2012 02:16 Schelim wrote:
...and with that Grubby is the only foreigner to advance from the open bracket. pretty impressive imo.


Grubby didnt face any korean, did he ?


He knocked out two Koreans.


Then bow the grubby!
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 17:22:00
August 15 2012 17:21 GMT
#3540
On August 16 2012 02:18 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 02:17 Fjodorov wrote:
Lucifrons plan was to mass ghosts, snipe the observer and kill JYP with his invisible army? Im not kidding, that seemed to be the plan.


Ghosts are really tanky and have a good dps against zealots, moreover emp is pretty good and they don't take additionnal damage from Stalker. In a perfect world all your bio units would be ghosts late game.


They also have negative DPS (well, not negative, but 1/3 of unstimmed 1/5 of stimmed marine per supply when 3/3).
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