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There's no crowd today because Gamescom isn't open to the public until thursday
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 14:32:55
August 15 2012 14:32 GMT
#2521
On August 15 2012 23:30 Bellygareth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 23:26 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:25 Bellygareth wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:24 sAsImre wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:23 Bellygareth wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:17 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:16 Bellygareth wrote:
Nestea's training with Catz shows in this 3 hatch play?

Three hatch is standard these days, lol.

Before pool in TvZ? no...


against 14/15 CC yes


Except he scout the 14/15 cc after he made the move. He did it blind...

Considering the current metagame involves lots of greed from both sides, it's not 100% blind.


And still a lot of two rax. And yes it was blind, because he scouted nothing at all. Also the standard TvZ is still a lot of two base for Z and T so I don't know what you're talking about...


you're stucked before may?
90% of the TvZ include a fast 3rd CC.
11/11 was a bo win and yeah that was a blind risk, but he may have studied Puma's play on Antiga. I don't remember to many 11/11 from Puma anyway.
Zest fanboy.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 15 2012 14:32 GMT
#2522
On August 15 2012 23:31 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 23:30 sitromit wrote:
It feels like Nestea's best days might be behind him.


He'll be coaching for KT this time next year.

I fear you'll be right, but I really don't want that too happen.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Bellygareth
Profile Joined October 2010
France512 Posts
August 15 2012 14:33 GMT
#2523
On August 15 2012 23:32 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 23:30 Bellygareth wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:26 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:25 Bellygareth wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:24 sAsImre wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:23 Bellygareth wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:17 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:16 Bellygareth wrote:
Nestea's training with Catz shows in this 3 hatch play?

Three hatch is standard these days, lol.

Before pool in TvZ? no...


against 14/15 CC yes


Except he scout the 14/15 cc after he made the move. He did it blind...

Considering the current metagame involves lots of greed from both sides, it's not 100% blind.


And still a lot of two rax. And yes it was blind, because he scouted nothing at all. Also the standard TvZ is still a lot of two base for Z and T so I don't know what you're talking about...

If the standard for ZvT is for Zerg to have the same number as bases as Terran, then players are getting worse. As far as I can tell, and in the vast majority of games I've watched and played in recently, most players go for a fast CC as Terran, and a fast 3rd as Zerg.


Fast third is not equal to 2 hatch before pool blind...
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 15 2012 14:33 GMT
#2524
ReaL 2-1 YongHwa
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
August 15 2012 14:33 GMT
#2525
I'm a little late, but so happy Grubby is playing good!
I'm not watching right now, but I can tell from all your comments that Nesteas game isn't going so well...
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
August 15 2012 14:34 GMT
#2526
On August 15 2012 23:33 Type|NarutO wrote:
ReaL 2-1 YongHwa


Cool. Lol, twas quick
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 14:34:57
August 15 2012 14:34 GMT
#2527
On August 15 2012 23:32 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
i am chobo

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
i think nerchio best zerg in world

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
nerchio so bm..

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
nerchio did type my twitter... so bm.. really bm.. he always bm.


Haha I forgot this is just the open bracket and nerchio is there too. The open bracket players are much better than the seeded ones.


Nerchio is lurking around stealing peoples twitter it seems, DeMuslim is his second victim.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
August 15 2012 14:34 GMT
#2528
Real won against Yonghwa.

Glad to see him getting results.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 15 2012 14:34 GMT
#2529
On August 15 2012 23:33 Bellygareth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 23:32 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:30 Bellygareth wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:26 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:25 Bellygareth wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:24 sAsImre wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:23 Bellygareth wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:17 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:16 Bellygareth wrote:
Nestea's training with Catz shows in this 3 hatch play?

Three hatch is standard these days, lol.

Before pool in TvZ? no...


against 14/15 CC yes


Except he scout the 14/15 cc after he made the move. He did it blind...

Considering the current metagame involves lots of greed from both sides, it's not 100% blind.


And still a lot of two rax. And yes it was blind, because he scouted nothing at all. Also the standard TvZ is still a lot of two base for Z and T so I don't know what you're talking about...

If the standard for ZvT is for Zerg to have the same number as bases as Terran, then players are getting worse. As far as I can tell, and in the vast majority of games I've watched and played in recently, most players go for a fast CC as Terran, and a fast 3rd as Zerg.


Fast third is not equal to 2 hatch before pool blind...

I guess I forgot to mention the fast 3rd CC for Terrans, my mistake.
Long live the King of Wings
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 15 2012 14:34 GMT
#2530
On August 15 2012 23:33 Type|NarutO wrote:
ReaL 2-1 YongHwa


-________________-

well that sucks
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
August 15 2012 14:35 GMT
#2531
On August 15 2012 23:33 Type|NarutO wrote:
ReaL 2-1 YongHwa


Dammit. But congrats Real.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9036 Posts
August 15 2012 14:35 GMT
#2532
Korean Zergs failing everywhere...
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 14:36:25
August 15 2012 14:35 GMT
#2533
On August 15 2012 23:34 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 23:32 syllogism wrote:

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
i am chobo

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
i think nerchio best zerg in world

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
nerchio so bm..

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
nerchio did type my twitter... so bm.. really bm.. he always bm.


Haha I forgot this is just the open bracket and nerchio is there too. The open bracket players are much better than the seeded ones.


Nerchio is lurking around hacking peoples twitter it seems, DeMuslim is his second victim.

How dare you say Nerchio hacks!

Ahh with the ninja edit!
Vira
Profile Joined November 2010
573 Posts
August 15 2012 14:36 GMT
#2534
Hope they stream ForGG vs MC, they both got a good run and I managed to catch only one game for both of them
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 15 2012 14:36 GMT
#2535
On August 15 2012 23:35 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 23:34 Xoronius wrote:
On August 15 2012 23:32 syllogism wrote:

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
i am chobo

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
i think nerchio best zerg in world

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
nerchio so bm..

장민철 ‏@sk__mc
nerchio did type my twitter... so bm.. really bm.. he always bm.


Haha I forgot this is just the open bracket and nerchio is there too. The open bracket players are much better than the seeded ones.


Nerchio is lurking around stealing peoples twitter it seems, DeMuslim is his second victim.

How dare you say Nerchio hacks!


Already edited, recognized it is maybe the wrong word choice, no offense to Nerchio.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
August 15 2012 14:36 GMT
#2536
ForGG won over JYP, the next match is MC vs ForGG. I hope we get to see that one.
Ethi
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany275 Posts
August 15 2012 14:37 GMT
#2537
On August 15 2012 23:33 Type|NarutO wrote:
ReaL 2-1 YongHwa

Pew pew! German korean fighting!
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
August 15 2012 14:37 GMT
#2538
Lol day9... 3 hatch before pool similar to 7 min 3rd
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
chrissummers
Profile Joined March 2011
243 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 14:39:07
August 15 2012 14:37 GMT
#2539
It is very obvious Nestea is not really in great shape, not only gamewise but healthwise. He looks ekhausted. His games against taeja were quite decent, almost every other terran would have lost there.
Just recently, Nestea 3-0'd MVP for an MLG Prizefight. He still can play very well, if he has a good day, but he seems to just not train as much as when he was world's #1 zerg.
Maybe he just does not have the motivation to train 6-8 hours a day anymore. It might change with HOTS, as he was always THE best new-strat developer.

edit: WHAT THE HELL? That hold for example was the old NESTEA. so many other zergs would have just died there.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 15 2012 14:37 GMT
#2540
Wow, really want to see MC vs Frogg!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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