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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 14 2012 17:51 GMT
#2561
On August 15 2012 02:49 SiroKO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 23:37 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
this is the first sign of a new age... believe it or not

yea, it doesn't mean much yet, but in a few months all will be laughing at ignoring the mentality and potential of kespa players


jaedong and effort, my two favorite zergs besides savior... broodwar hwaiting!


I don't think anyone ever denied that some Kespa players would end up being as good as the GOM players.
The theory of the elephant was they would be head and shoulders above the top GSL code S players in a very limited time.


Nah, the 'theory' was that they would dominate JUST like MC, MVP, and Nestea.

We'll find out in a few GSL seasons.
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 14 2012 17:53 GMT
#2562
Glad to see Kespa players quickly becoming competitive! It's always exciting when you see a strong player burst onto the scene, except now we're seeing a massive group of them do so. Things are gonna get really epic now. That said, still feel so sad for DRG, hopefully this slump won't last too much longer... >_<
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 14 2012 18:17 GMT
#2563
are there any free vods?
Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
August 14 2012 18:37 GMT
#2564
On August 15 2012 00:12 knicyo wrote:
JD won over sC, Effort over DRG and herO over YuGiOh... ERHMERGEDH :D


I hope JD can keep it up but DRG losing makes me a sad panda.
Fruitdealer, DongRaeGu, and Soulkey
iGoTThiZ
Profile Joined August 2011
103 Posts
August 14 2012 19:01 GMT
#2565
DRG has been losing ever since he got gf. Money over hoes bro!
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
August 14 2012 19:10 GMT
#2566
real happy to see dong + effort.. great job.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
August 14 2012 20:01 GMT
#2567
I love both BW and SC2. But it really hurts the soul to see things like "lololol who the fuck is jaedong" and "lolol kill this effort scrub"

:[...
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 20:06:33
August 14 2012 20:05 GMT
#2568
On August 15 2012 03:17 hifriend wrote:
are there any free vods?

720p vods on youtube

none from today though
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 20:06:14
August 14 2012 20:05 GMT
#2569
On August 15 2012 02:51 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 02:49 SiroKO wrote:
On August 14 2012 23:37 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
this is the first sign of a new age... believe it or not

yea, it doesn't mean much yet, but in a few months all will be laughing at ignoring the mentality and potential of kespa players


jaedong and effort, my two favorite zergs besides savior... broodwar hwaiting!


I don't think anyone ever denied that some Kespa players would end up being as good as the GOM players.
The theory of the elephant was they would be head and shoulders above the top GSL code S players in a very limited time.


Nah, the 'theory' was that they would dominate JUST like MC, MVP, and Nestea.

We'll find out in a few GSL seasons.

No.. he is right. The theory involved them destroying within the first mouseclick they did in sc2 essentially. Also.. DRG did he play poorly?
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 20:15:14
August 14 2012 20:14 GMT
#2570
On August 15 2012 05:05 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 02:51 Xiphos wrote:
On August 15 2012 02:49 SiroKO wrote:
On August 14 2012 23:37 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
this is the first sign of a new age... believe it or not

yea, it doesn't mean much yet, but in a few months all will be laughing at ignoring the mentality and potential of kespa players


jaedong and effort, my two favorite zergs besides savior... broodwar hwaiting!


I don't think anyone ever denied that some Kespa players would end up being as good as the GOM players.
The theory of the elephant was they would be head and shoulders above the top GSL code S players in a very limited time.


Nah, the 'theory' was that they would dominate JUST like MC, MVP, and Nestea.

We'll find out in a few GSL seasons.

No.. he is right. The theory involved them destroying within the first mouseclick they did in sc2 essentially. Also.. DRG did he play poorly?


theory was that sc2 is so easy, if top300 broodwar pros and SEMI-pros switched they would put sc2 guys to shame.

read my signature

what actually happened is now history, and sc2 fans shouldn't be like bw elitists and rub it in. let's move on and enjoy new stuff that kespa guys will force with their fresh outlook on the game. starcraft fighting!
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
August 14 2012 20:20 GMT
#2571
On August 15 2012 05:05 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 02:51 Xiphos wrote:
On August 15 2012 02:49 SiroKO wrote:
On August 14 2012 23:37 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
this is the first sign of a new age... believe it or not

yea, it doesn't mean much yet, but in a few months all will be laughing at ignoring the mentality and potential of kespa players


jaedong and effort, my two favorite zergs besides savior... broodwar hwaiting!


I don't think anyone ever denied that some Kespa players would end up being as good as the GOM players.
The theory of the elephant was they would be head and shoulders above the top GSL code S players in a very limited time.


Nah, the 'theory' was that they would dominate JUST like MC, MVP, and Nestea.

We'll find out in a few GSL seasons.

No.. he is right. The theory involved them destroying within the first mouseclick they did in sc2 essentially. Also.. DRG did he play poorly?


No, DRG definitely didn't play poorly. The first and second games were both won by some standard ZvZ superior (luckier?) decision-making; the decisive match, however, was exclusively skill-related. DRG would have won against a great deal of excellent players in that third game but he got plainly outplayed (and out-mechanic-ed, which is even more puzzling and amazing) by EffOrt. Was very impressive.
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
August 14 2012 20:26 GMT
#2572
On August 15 2012 05:20 FATJESUSONABIKE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 05:05 mrtomjones wrote:
On August 15 2012 02:51 Xiphos wrote:
On August 15 2012 02:49 SiroKO wrote:
On August 14 2012 23:37 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
this is the first sign of a new age... believe it or not

yea, it doesn't mean much yet, but in a few months all will be laughing at ignoring the mentality and potential of kespa players


jaedong and effort, my two favorite zergs besides savior... broodwar hwaiting!


I don't think anyone ever denied that some Kespa players would end up being as good as the GOM players.
The theory of the elephant was they would be head and shoulders above the top GSL code S players in a very limited time.


Nah, the 'theory' was that they would dominate JUST like MC, MVP, and Nestea.

We'll find out in a few GSL seasons.

No.. he is right. The theory involved them destroying within the first mouseclick they did in sc2 essentially. Also.. DRG did he play poorly?


No, DRG definitely didn't play poorly. The first and second games were both won by some standard ZvZ superior (luckier?) decision-making; the decisive match, however, was exclusively skill-related. DRG would have won against a great deal of excellent players in that third game but he got plainly outplayed (and out-mechanic-ed, which is even more puzzling and amazing) by EffOrt. Was very impressive.


i agree with this.

i know DRG is now officially slumping real hard, but it's no excuse what so ever. effort looked liked another level of player, and none of the games was some stupid build order disadvantage. in fact, g2 which DRG won was build order lucky for him. last game was really great example of what i'm trying to say and you should watch it if you can, highly recommended.
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 20:50:36
August 14 2012 20:50 GMT
#2573
I don't consider CJ Hero to be a kespa player. With his bw record, he's not more kespa than nestea or mvp .
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
August 14 2012 20:55 GMT
#2574
On August 15 2012 05:50 T.O.P. wrote:
I don't consider CJ Hero to be a kespa player. With his bw record, he's not more kespa than nestea or mvp .


He was in a kespa team for 3-4 years and both Zergbong and Mvp were kespa players. I don't really get your point.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
August 14 2012 21:11 GMT
#2575
On August 15 2012 05:55 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 05:50 T.O.P. wrote:
I don't consider CJ Hero to be a kespa player. With his bw record, he's not more kespa than nestea or mvp .


He was in a kespa team for 3-4 years and both Zergbong and Mvp were kespa players. I don't really get your point.


The point is that Hero was not better in BW than Nestea or MVP. So I think the word is 'elephant' instead of 'kespa'.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
bayside
Profile Joined July 2011
United States82 Posts
August 14 2012 21:33 GMT
#2576
It was very good to see some KeSPA players doing well, I hope they can continue this, but I think that most of them will be out in the next round, JD will lose to Genius (based on Korean ZvP in general, and his overall "fright" over protoss players, I also think that Genius is pretty decent at ZvP 53%) Also Squirtle is going to crush Roro (63%) I have not seen many KeSPA players really do well outside of mirrors vs Code S opponents. (Soulkey honorable mention).I think that if effort can make it past Gumiho than it will really be a real test. (reason why I didnt post KeSPA % is because they are still a much smaller sample size, like sub-10)
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 14 2012 21:38 GMT
#2577
On August 15 2012 06:33 bayside wrote:
It was very good to see some KeSPA players doing well, I hope they can continue this, but I think that most of them will be out in the next round, JD will lose to Genius (based on Korean ZvP in general, and his overall "fright" over protoss players, I also think that Genius is pretty decent at ZvP 53%) Also Squirtle is going to crush Roro (63%) I have not seen many KeSPA players really do well outside of mirrors vs Code S opponents. (Soulkey honorable mention).I think that if effort can make it past Gumiho than it will really be a real test. (reason why I didnt post KeSPA % is because they are still a much smaller sample size, like sub-10)


Or Jaedong wins vs Genius and Roro beating Squirtle.

I kind prefer that arrangement much better.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 14 2012 21:40 GMT
#2578
On August 15 2012 05:01 LuckyMacro wrote:
I love both BW and SC2. But it really hurts the soul to see things like "lololol who the fuck is jaedong" and "lolol kill this effort scrub"

:[...


Sounds like some made up quotations to me.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 14 2012 21:58 GMT
#2579
Wow, these Kespa players made the GSL players look like foreigners. I guess it's true that the elephants have arrived.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 22:01:29
August 14 2012 22:00 GMT
#2580
On August 15 2012 06:40 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2012 05:01 LuckyMacro wrote:
I love both BW and SC2. But it really hurts the soul to see things like "lololol who the fuck is jaedong" and "lolol kill this effort scrub"

:[...


Sounds like some made up quotations to me.


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