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AxionSteel

United States7754 Posts

August 14 2012 12:11 GMT

#2101

On August 14 2012 21:10 BlindKill wrote:

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wait what I thought hero is the favourite here

I don't think so.

seansye

United States1722 Posts

August 14 2012 12:11 GMT

#2102

On August 14 2012 21:10 monkh wrote:
I hope MVP is OK wasn't he being treated for some thing wrong with his spine not long ago?

MVP is playing in IEM in less than 24 hours.

Figgy

Canada1788 Posts

August 14 2012 12:11 GMT

#2103

On August 14 2012 21:10 Highways wrote:

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lol

Great picture. I love it!

WindWolf

Sweden11767 Posts

August 14 2012 12:11 GMT

#2104

Lets go LiquidHerO, the real hero. Show some good PvP which I know you can.

Dodgin

Canada39254 Posts

August 14 2012 12:11 GMT

#2105

On August 14 2012 21:10 BlindKill wrote:

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wait what I thought hero is the favourite here

Creator PvP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hero PvP

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

August 14 2012 12:11 GMT

#2106

On August 14 2012 21:10 BlindKill wrote:

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wait what I thought hero is the favourite here

nah no way, creator 6-0 stomped hero and is in better shape than him atm

Elroi

Sweden5595 Posts

August 14 2012 12:11 GMT

#2107

On August 14 2012 21:04 Notfragile wrote:

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On August 14 2012 20:54 Squeegy wrote:

On August 14 2012 20:48 Assirra wrote:

On August 14 2012 20:42 Squeegy wrote:

On August 14 2012 20:38 The KY wrote:

On August 14 2012 20:31 Squeegy wrote:

On August 14 2012 20:27 The KY wrote:

On August 14 2012 20:25 opterown wrote:
guys, Squeegy is the biggest pro-bw poster ever, i recommend not getting into arguments with him

Earlier he posted, without irony, 'U mad??'

Yeah just let him get on with it.

But I explain my reasoning in my posts and I welcome anyone to disagree with the points. But nobody ever actually produces an argument. They assert and they twist. Explain a flaw in my reasoning and I will listen.

Of course that "u mad" would be an exception.

Because no one really cares about whatever point it actually is that you're trying to make when it's sandwiched with all the smug flame baiting. A player we all expect to be really good beat a player who seems to be slumping compared to his previous domination. The time to start shouting that the domination of the clearly superior kespa players is beginning is not now, when there's no actual evidence for that.

If I were to listen to you, it would never be there. Everytime a player is slumping or playing below his standards. If that is the case, then I think the more reasonable explanation is that you're rating the GSL palyers based on their best. Not on their average. Kespa are already competetive with GSL, I think that is quite established.

I don't think that many people are denying that some kespa players can indeed play on GSL lvl. However isn't it normal that people want their favorite players to be on their best and when they play lower and get defeated they say it? DRG for instance has been mentally down ever since GSL/GSTL semi finals. SC has been in the hospital for quite some time.
Does that mean that the kespa players didn't outplayed them? ofc they did. And i would love if some of them qualified for the next GSL. New players in a competition is always good.
Oh and just a tip, don't seriously mention that article if you want to be taken serious. It was a bunch of nonsense that was written way to early on the basis that sc2 wouldn't evolve at all.

Because they are excuses. Has been mentally down? What does that really mean. How much worse is he playing? I can guarantee you that game three he played great. Effort was just better. Moreover, the validity of the claims of them playing below their standard are, well, questionable when it according to some happens every single time they lose. Note: I am not saying every time Kespa player has won, it has been the GSL player playing their best.

Who are you to tell me not to mention it? That article was essentially the opinion of any BW player at the time. Including mine. And it still is. And it makes sense. People just keep misunderstanding it and building strawmen.

It makes sense???? It made sense back when the game was a slugfest on 1-2 bases. Not anymore. The article is outdated, the game has evolved a lot from there and you should open your eyes and see that.

BW switchers completely taking over the SCII scene? The best of the BW pros are on a course to go top code S. And that is good, really good for the game, the viewership and the competition. But "SCII competition is a farce"? That was the main quote. Do you stand by it?

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Crush any other players. Really? Does this happen? It has been a few months. Where's the "crush" of "everyone"? BW elitists just now celebrate (and happily flame since they won't get moderated) the first few victories. Do you still stand by this article, when it has been completely false?

Can you read?

silent_owl

Philippines3098 Posts

August 14 2012 12:11 GMT

#2108

On August 14 2012 21:10 monkh wrote:
I hope MVP is OK wasn't he being treated for some thing wrong with his spine not long ago?

Oh yeah... Forgot about that. I hope he also gets his wrists fixed.

IshinShishi

Japan6156 Posts

August 14 2012 12:11 GMT

#2109

I wonder if foreigners will have any spots left like they current have when the kespa players reach the top tier.

Asha

United Kingdom38255 Posts

August 14 2012 12:12 GMT

#2110

On August 14 2012 21:08 Wintex wrote:
Hero[join], the dong and effort wont last next round. Genius, Tails and Gumibear will decimate them. This was so horribad.

Who's got the free win vs Tails? xD

soverRR

Sweden348 Posts

August 14 2012 12:12 GMT

#2111

On August 14 2012 21:08 Wintex wrote:
Hero[join], the dong and effort wont last next round. Genius, Tails and Gumibear will decimate them. This was so horribad.

Well, at least they didn't get knocked out as easly as possible. But yeah, they certainly drew pretty strong opponents for the next round, would be amazed to see anyone go through.

Olli

Austria24417 Posts

August 14 2012 12:12 GMT

#2112

On August 14 2012 21:10 BlindKill wrote:

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wait what I thought hero is the favourite here

Not really, his PvP has improved a lot but he isn't favored by any means sadly. He did put up a great fight vs Seed though.

Infernal Knight

United States557 Posts

August 14 2012 12:12 GMT

#2113

On August 14 2012 21:09 DamageControL wrote:
Of course we want KeSPA players to succeed. We don't want the players we love to fall into irrelevancy. More than that--it reaffirms that our game, BW, was the best one if our players were the best players. Unfortunately, our fandom seems to lead to irrational zealotry and insulting established SC2 players.

I really think that the rivalry could actually be a fun little LR thing to banter around if the majority of the parties concerned wanted it to be that way. Unfortunately too many people seem to have seized on this as an opportunity for some bizarre epeen-by-proxy contest.

Porcelina

United Kingdom3249 Posts

August 14 2012 12:12 GMT

#2114

On August 14 2012 21:11 Dodgin wrote:

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Creator PvP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hero PvP

/sniffle
/sigh
/cry

Don't. Want. To. Admit.

...

silent_owl

Philippines3098 Posts

August 14 2012 12:12 GMT

#2115

Actually have never seen Creator play before. Am I in for a treat or should I just go to bed?

ScaringKids

Portugal819 Posts

August 14 2012 12:12 GMT

#2116

Anyone know name of this song pls?

Necro)Phagist(

Canada6644 Posts

August 14 2012 12:13 GMT

#2117

On August 14 2012 21:10 monkh wrote:
I hope MVP is OK wasn't he being treated for some thing wrong with his spine not long ago?

He has a probelm with the nerves in his neck causing pain in his wrists or something iirc. but thats not why he forfeited. He is at IEM doing marketing stuff for LG-IM and playing