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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#781
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?


Sort of, drops have always been really effective vs zergs.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#782
On August 09 2012 20:10 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:07 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:04 Doraemon wrote:
has kespa zergs even won a game yet?


zerg is 3-14 in maps so far, drg took a map and curious won 2:0 against kespa's rain


Wow, didn't know it was that bad : o

The game is quite balanced now imo, the zergs are losing to superior players. Creator beating DRG is no upset at this point tbh. Creator is one of the best protoss players and DRG is in a slump. Hope he can get back.

Yeh i'd have been shocked if Creator lost to DRG given how bad he's looked vs protoss lately.
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#783
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?

MMA once had 90% TvZ just from dropping blueflame hellion and marines everywhere so i guess yes
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 11:12:13
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#784
On August 09 2012 20:09 Ragnarork wrote:
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On August 09 2012 20:07 Yello wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 Yello wrote:
Finally back from my (hopefully) last exam this year.
Ah, I love your LR Probe1 ^^

Any matchup worth watching the VODs so far?

Yes.


Which?
And to that one guy posting the link to the Blizz stream... Blizzard saving Esports sounds sooooo wrong Oo


Well, it sounds wrong, but you can't deny the fact that they try a bit with this stream. (Yeah, it won't forgive Morhaime's speech...)

It's GOM's official twitch stream, why are you guys giving Blizzard credit?

Edit: Okay, it's not their usual stream. Weird that GOM has two english twitch streams live simultaneously.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 11:12:03
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#785
On August 09 2012 20:08 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:07 bgx wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:04 Doraemon wrote:
has kespa zergs even won a game yet?


The only KeSPA anyone to win anything is Reality. Zerg have been doing pretty poorly across the board.

Oh dont be all grumpy geezers, Soulkey could wreck most of terrans with his play if it was not for Gumiho who is top3 terran in the world right now.

i'm a big gumi fan but i doubt he's top3. top7 or so maybe though


Well, MVP, MKP, Taeja, Polt, Byun... ? I don't know who else could be listed as a top Terran before GuMiHo then...

Any ideas ? I'd like to say Bomber, but lack of consistency says no. And I don't know what to think about MMA yet...
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#786
On August 09 2012 20:09 X3GoldDot wrote:
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On August 09 2012 20:05 Yello wrote:
Finally back from my (hopefully) last exam this year.
Ah, I love your LR Probe1 ^^

Any matchup worth watching the VODs so far?


startale squirtle vs bbooongbboongprime game 1 on ohana,
+ Show Spoiler +
immortal allin by squirtle and standard by b4, b4 played really well and had the army lead and looked to have won at some points in the engagement, but some good force fields and LEGENDARILY SICK AS HELL warp prism+immortal micro, with squirtle saving 2 immortals constantly with red HP, in the end killing about 60 roaches from immortals alone and came back to win the game


Thx, gonna watch that right when the stream is finished.

And damn, that's not going to end well for Roro
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#787
Gahh pretty bad hellion defense >< nice muta response though
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Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#788
On August 09 2012 20:10 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?


I honestly think it's because drop defense was way easier because of Scourges.


Didn't they just put Lurkers in their mineral lines or something?
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#789
On August 09 2012 20:11 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:09 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:07 Yello wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 Yello wrote:
Finally back from my (hopefully) last exam this year.
Ah, I love your LR Probe1 ^^

Any matchup worth watching the VODs so far?

Yes.


Which?
And to that one guy posting the link to the Blizz stream... Blizzard saving Esports sounds sooooo wrong Oo


Well, it sounds wrong, but you can't deny the fact that they try a bit with this stream. (Yeah, it won't forgive Morhaime's speech...)

It's GOM's official twitch stream, why are you guys giving Blizzard credit?


Because for Day 1 and 2, there was no 480p stream, only 240p.
I think Blizzard did something probably. Told Gom that WCS had to have better quality and stuff.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#790
:| I wish this was brood war. 7 marines, turrets and a wraith building, no comeback against 11 mutas.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
August 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#791
8 Marines....
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#792
On August 09 2012 20:11 Infernal Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:10 Noocta wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?


I honestly think it's because drop defense was way easier because of Scourges.


Didn't they just put Lurkers in their mineral lines or something?

Nope, waste of ressources.
This is our town, scrub
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#793
On August 09 2012 20:11 Infernal Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:10 Noocta wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?


I honestly think it's because drop defense was way easier because of Scourges.


Didn't they just put Lurkers in their mineral lines or something?

Sunkens are better than spines at defending, plus lurks, plus scourge.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#794
Such carnage. Hide your kids, hide your wives.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#795
On August 09 2012 20:11 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:08 opterown wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:07 bgx wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:04 Doraemon wrote:
has kespa zergs even won a game yet?


The only KeSPA anyone to win anything is Reality. Zerg have been doing pretty poorly across the board.

Oh dont be all grumpy geezers, Soulkey could wreck most of terrans with his play if it was not for Gumiho who is top3 terran in the world right now.

i'm a big gumi fan but i doubt he's top3. top7 or so maybe though


Well, MVP, MKP, Taeja, Polt, Byun... ? I don't know who else could be listed as a top Terran before GuMiHo then...

Any ideas ? I'd like to say Bomber, but lack of consistency says no. And I don't know what to think about MMA yet...

mma, jjakji, alive, ryung maybe? i think they're on a similar level, these guys, one can look better on another day
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Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#796
Haha, they're doing the only attack workers funday monday!
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
August 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#797
On August 09 2012 20:12 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:11 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:10 Noocta wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?


I honestly think it's because drop defense was way easier because of Scourges.


Didn't they just put Lurkers in their mineral lines or something?

Nope, waste of ressources.


Hm... oh, wait a minute. I think I might have been thinking of it the other way around. Lurkers in the enemy's mineral line? If not, please don't shoot me. @.@
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#798
Man, such a late third for roro.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
August 09 2012 11:14 GMT
#799
Damn, just watched a VOD of Jaedong's exceptional muta micro from way back then, makes me wish SC2 mutas were like BW mutas
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 09 2012 11:14 GMT
#800
On August 09 2012 20:11 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:08 opterown wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:07 bgx wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:04 Doraemon wrote:
has kespa zergs even won a game yet?


The only KeSPA anyone to win anything is Reality. Zerg have been doing pretty poorly across the board.

Oh dont be all grumpy geezers, Soulkey could wreck most of terrans with his play if it was not for Gumiho who is top3 terran in the world right now.

i'm a big gumi fan but i doubt he's top3. top7 or so maybe though


Well, MVP, MKP, Taeja, Polt, Byun... ? I don't know who else could be listed as a top Terran before GuMiHo then...

Any ideas ? I'd like to say Bomber, but lack of consistency says no. And I don't know what to think about MMA yet...

My Top 3 means CURRENT top3, like last month performance is the barrier. And we are talkign about TvZ. Surely Gumiho is not Top3 in those circumstances?. I could be wrong i dont even follow SC2 that much as i used to But from a glance it looked like it.
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