• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:06
CET 13:06
KST 21:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win1Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Authentic love Spells ➾ (201) 628-3680 Houston, TX (201) 628-3680 Love Spell Caster Milton, MA Bring back your lost lover Australia+27734009912
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1900 users

[WCS KR] WR1 D4 - Page 40

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 81 Next
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#781
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?


Sort of, drops have always been really effective vs zergs.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#782
On August 09 2012 20:10 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:07 Tsubbi wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:04 Doraemon wrote:
has kespa zergs even won a game yet?


zerg is 3-14 in maps so far, drg took a map and curious won 2:0 against kespa's rain


Wow, didn't know it was that bad : o

The game is quite balanced now imo, the zergs are losing to superior players. Creator beating DRG is no upset at this point tbh. Creator is one of the best protoss players and DRG is in a slump. Hope he can get back.

Yeh i'd have been shocked if Creator lost to DRG given how bad he's looked vs protoss lately.
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#783
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?

MMA once had 90% TvZ just from dropping blueflame hellion and marines everywhere so i guess yes
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 11:12:13
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#784
On August 09 2012 20:09 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:07 Yello wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 Yello wrote:
Finally back from my (hopefully) last exam this year.
Ah, I love your LR Probe1 ^^

Any matchup worth watching the VODs so far?

Yes.


Which?
And to that one guy posting the link to the Blizz stream... Blizzard saving Esports sounds sooooo wrong Oo


Well, it sounds wrong, but you can't deny the fact that they try a bit with this stream. (Yeah, it won't forgive Morhaime's speech...)

It's GOM's official twitch stream, why are you guys giving Blizzard credit?

Edit: Okay, it's not their usual stream. Weird that GOM has two english twitch streams live simultaneously.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 11:12:03
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#785
On August 09 2012 20:08 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:07 bgx wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:04 Doraemon wrote:
has kespa zergs even won a game yet?


The only KeSPA anyone to win anything is Reality. Zerg have been doing pretty poorly across the board.

Oh dont be all grumpy geezers, Soulkey could wreck most of terrans with his play if it was not for Gumiho who is top3 terran in the world right now.

i'm a big gumi fan but i doubt he's top3. top7 or so maybe though


Well, MVP, MKP, Taeja, Polt, Byun... ? I don't know who else could be listed as a top Terran before GuMiHo then...

Any ideas ? I'd like to say Bomber, but lack of consistency says no. And I don't know what to think about MMA yet...
LiquipediaWanderer
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#786
On August 09 2012 20:09 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:05 Yello wrote:
Finally back from my (hopefully) last exam this year.
Ah, I love your LR Probe1 ^^

Any matchup worth watching the VODs so far?


startale squirtle vs bbooongbboongprime game 1 on ohana,
+ Show Spoiler +
immortal allin by squirtle and standard by b4, b4 played really well and had the army lead and looked to have won at some points in the engagement, but some good force fields and LEGENDARILY SICK AS HELL warp prism+immortal micro, with squirtle saving 2 immortals constantly with red HP, in the end killing about 60 roaches from immortals alone and came back to win the game


Thx, gonna watch that right when the stream is finished.

And damn, that's not going to end well for Roro
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#787
Gahh pretty bad hellion defense >< nice muta response though
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
August 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#788
On August 09 2012 20:10 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?


I honestly think it's because drop defense was way easier because of Scourges.


Didn't they just put Lurkers in their mineral lines or something?
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#789
On August 09 2012 20:11 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:09 Ragnarork wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:07 Yello wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 Yello wrote:
Finally back from my (hopefully) last exam this year.
Ah, I love your LR Probe1 ^^

Any matchup worth watching the VODs so far?

Yes.


Which?
And to that one guy posting the link to the Blizz stream... Blizzard saving Esports sounds sooooo wrong Oo


Well, it sounds wrong, but you can't deny the fact that they try a bit with this stream. (Yeah, it won't forgive Morhaime's speech...)

It's GOM's official twitch stream, why are you guys giving Blizzard credit?


Because for Day 1 and 2, there was no 480p stream, only 240p.
I think Blizzard did something probably. Told Gom that WCS had to have better quality and stuff.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#790
:| I wish this was brood war. 7 marines, turrets and a wraith building, no comeback against 11 mutas.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
August 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#791
8 Marines....
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#792
On August 09 2012 20:11 Infernal Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:10 Noocta wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?


I honestly think it's because drop defense was way easier because of Scourges.


Didn't they just put Lurkers in their mineral lines or something?

Nope, waste of ressources.
This is our town, scrub
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#793
On August 09 2012 20:11 Infernal Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:10 Noocta wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?


I honestly think it's because drop defense was way easier because of Scourges.


Didn't they just put Lurkers in their mineral lines or something?

Sunkens are better than spines at defending, plus lurks, plus scourge.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#794
Such carnage. Hide your kids, hide your wives.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#795
On August 09 2012 20:11 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:08 opterown wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:07 bgx wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:04 Doraemon wrote:
has kespa zergs even won a game yet?


The only KeSPA anyone to win anything is Reality. Zerg have been doing pretty poorly across the board.

Oh dont be all grumpy geezers, Soulkey could wreck most of terrans with his play if it was not for Gumiho who is top3 terran in the world right now.

i'm a big gumi fan but i doubt he's top3. top7 or so maybe though


Well, MVP, MKP, Taeja, Polt, Byun... ? I don't know who else could be listed as a top Terran before GuMiHo then...

Any ideas ? I'd like to say Bomber, but lack of consistency says no. And I don't know what to think about MMA yet...

mma, jjakji, alive, ryung maybe? i think they're on a similar level, these guys, one can look better on another day
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#796
Haha, they're doing the only attack workers funday monday!
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Infernal Knight
Profile Joined July 2012
United States557 Posts
August 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#797
On August 09 2012 20:12 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:11 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:10 Noocta wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:09 Doraemon wrote:
all the kespa zergs seems to struggle with drop defence. was this a common theme - drop defence and general zerg struggle - when the gsl people started?


I honestly think it's because drop defense was way easier because of Scourges.


Didn't they just put Lurkers in their mineral lines or something?

Nope, waste of ressources.


Hm... oh, wait a minute. I think I might have been thinking of it the other way around. Lurkers in the enemy's mineral line? If not, please don't shoot me. @.@
"It's like you were running away from bears, except that the bears have the power to make forcefields." - QxC
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#798
Man, such a late third for roro.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
August 09 2012 11:14 GMT
#799
Damn, just watched a VOD of Jaedong's exceptional muta micro from way back then, makes me wish SC2 mutas were like BW mutas
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 09 2012 11:14 GMT
#800
On August 09 2012 20:11 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 20:08 opterown wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:07 bgx wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:05 Infernal Knight wrote:
On August 09 2012 20:04 Doraemon wrote:
has kespa zergs even won a game yet?


The only KeSPA anyone to win anything is Reality. Zerg have been doing pretty poorly across the board.

Oh dont be all grumpy geezers, Soulkey could wreck most of terrans with his play if it was not for Gumiho who is top3 terran in the world right now.

i'm a big gumi fan but i doubt he's top3. top7 or so maybe though


Well, MVP, MKP, Taeja, Polt, Byun... ? I don't know who else could be listed as a top Terran before GuMiHo then...

Any ideas ? I'd like to say Bomber, but lack of consistency says no. And I don't know what to think about MMA yet...

My Top 3 means CURRENT top3, like last month performance is the barrier. And we are talkign about TvZ. Surely Gumiho is not Top3 in those circumstances?. I could be wrong i dont even follow SC2 that much as i used to But from a glance it looked like it.
Stork[gm]
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 81 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RongYI Cup
11:00
Playoffs Day 2
Clem vs TriGGeRLIVE!
Maru vs Creator
ComeBackTV 947
WardiTV767
RotterdaM644
IndyStarCraft 200
Rex138
BRAT_OK 125
3DClanTV 62
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 644
IndyStarCraft 200
Rex 138
BRAT_OK 125
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4693
Rain 3414
Flash 2616
GuemChi 1794
Hyuk 837
Jaedong 613
Horang2 509
Snow 422
Soma 419
BeSt 361
[ Show more ]
Stork 355
ZerO 295
Larva 282
Light 263
Hyun 240
Mini 236
Mong 155
EffOrt 124
hero 114
ggaemo 94
JulyZerg 88
Rush 80
Shuttle 52
Noble 51
Backho 43
Sea.KH 39
[sc1f]eonzerg 39
soO 33
Hm[arnc] 33
Free 30
ToSsGirL 29
Icarus 25
Bale 21
Sacsri 21
GoRush 20
SilentControl 15
Terrorterran 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 6
Dota 2
Gorgc4599
Fuzer 186
XcaliburYe132
NeuroSwarm94
Counter-Strike
zeus1276
x6flipin648
allub160
Other Games
singsing1726
Liquid`RaSZi1187
B2W.Neo1088
olofmeister810
Sick322
crisheroes321
Pyrionflax168
Mew2King117
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1575
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• iHatsuTV 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota252
League of Legends
• Nemesis6633
• Lourlo939
• Stunt458
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1h 54m
PiGosaur Cup
12h 54m
Replay Cast
20h 54m
RongYI Cup
22h 54m
herO vs Solar
WardiTV Invitational
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 20h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-26
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.