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Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 04 2012 15:59 GMT
#1801
This is just showcasing everything that makes terran so strong. Repair, Cloaked banshees
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 04 2012 16:00 GMT
#1802
On August 05 2012 00:59 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 00:56 sAsImre wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:55 Wintex wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:54 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:45 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:44 opterown wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:43 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:42 ELA wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:41 MCDayC wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:40 IshinShishi wrote:
That's why byun is still decisively better than Taeja, he is a much smarter player, that engibay block made absolutely no sense.

Imo Taeja > Byun pretty clearly right now, but yeah, I've never been hugely impressed with Taeja's builds or early game decisions.


Yeah, early game is his clear weakness I think - But lategame, I don't think any terrans are better than TaeJa in any matchup

Byun and taeja are equal in TvZ and TvT imo but taeja has much better TvP than byun in the late game.

before the seed derp, byun was undefeated vsP since his comeback in GOM events. partly due to his unconventional play, but Byun is an excellent vsP player.

Late game taeja is better but byun's early-mid TvP is fantastic with his funky builds and he's very smart with all ins.

On the back of what is his late game better?Byun has superb control and makes better decisions than his peers at any point, I don't think taeja's macro only can compensate for that, I doubt he can take Byun or Polt in a long game, they will simply constantly make better moves than him.


Unbiased, if any of them had Bomber's micro, it would have been fun to see the domination.


bomber macro no ?
if bomber wasn't subject of hard choking...


Yes, woops :p That macro is the probably the world's best.
The perfect terran would be:
MKP bio control
TaeJa ghost viking balance+awesomeness
Bomber macro
Mvp planning+decisionmaking+player reading


keen ceremonies
Zest fanboy.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 04 2012 16:00 GMT
#1803
Build up the advantage :D MC

Wow double twilight council? Man Apollo is definitely a fantastic caster. Noooo MC get those upgrades D:
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 04 2012 16:00 GMT
#1804
On August 05 2012 00:59 Shikada wrote:
Go go double twilight!

Go for the blink/charge timing.
Glorious SEA doto
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 16:01:17
August 04 2012 16:00 GMT
#1805
On August 05 2012 00:59 Sroobz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 00:59 Wintex wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:56 sAsImre wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:55 Wintex wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:54 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:45 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:44 opterown wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:43 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:42 ELA wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:41 MCDayC wrote:
[quote]
Imo Taeja > Byun pretty clearly right now, but yeah, I've never been hugely impressed with Taeja's builds or early game decisions.


Yeah, early game is his clear weakness I think - But lategame, I don't think any terrans are better than TaeJa in any matchup

Byun and taeja are equal in TvZ and TvT imo but taeja has much better TvP than byun in the late game.

before the seed derp, byun was undefeated vsP since his comeback in GOM events. partly due to his unconventional play, but Byun is an excellent vsP player.

Late game taeja is better but byun's early-mid TvP is fantastic with his funky builds and he's very smart with all ins.

On the back of what is his late game better?Byun has superb control and makes better decisions than his peers at any point, I don't think taeja's macro only can compensate for that, I doubt he can take Byun or Polt in a long game, they will simply constantly make better moves than him.


Unbiased, if any of them had Bomber's micro, it would have been fun to see the domination.


bomber macro no ?
if bomber wasn't subject of hard choking...


Yes, woops :p That macro is the probably the world's best.
The perfect terran would be:
MKP bio control
TaeJa ghost viking balance+awesomeness
Bomber macro
Mvp planning+decisionmaking+player reading


So flash in a year


Yeah, or Flash/Fantasy in a year.


On August 05 2012 01:00 sAsImre wrote:
keen ceremonies


Yeah, sorry...
The Bomber boy
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 04 2012 16:00 GMT
#1806
On August 05 2012 01:00 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 00:59 Wintex wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:56 sAsImre wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:55 Wintex wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:54 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:45 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:44 opterown wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:43 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:42 ELA wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:41 MCDayC wrote:
[quote]
Imo Taeja > Byun pretty clearly right now, but yeah, I've never been hugely impressed with Taeja's builds or early game decisions.


Yeah, early game is his clear weakness I think - But lategame, I don't think any terrans are better than TaeJa in any matchup

Byun and taeja are equal in TvZ and TvT imo but taeja has much better TvP than byun in the late game.

before the seed derp, byun was undefeated vsP since his comeback in GOM events. partly due to his unconventional play, but Byun is an excellent vsP player.

Late game taeja is better but byun's early-mid TvP is fantastic with his funky builds and he's very smart with all ins.

On the back of what is his late game better?Byun has superb control and makes better decisions than his peers at any point, I don't think taeja's macro only can compensate for that, I doubt he can take Byun or Polt in a long game, they will simply constantly make better moves than him.


Unbiased, if any of them had Bomber's micro, it would have been fun to see the domination.


bomber macro no ?
if bomber wasn't subject of hard choking...


Yes, woops :p That macro is the probably the world's best.
The perfect terran would be:
MKP bio control
TaeJa ghost viking balance+awesomeness
Bomber macro
Mvp planning+decisionmaking+player reading


keen ceremonies

Nice one.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
August 04 2012 16:00 GMT
#1807
These players are so off their game, MC nearly builds two twilights, and does not kill the bunker.
Taeja forgets to cloak one banshee and does not focus probes with the second and lets the bunker burn down.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 16:07:04
August 04 2012 16:00 GMT
#1808
On August 05 2012 00:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 00:55 Wintex wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:54 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:45 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:44 opterown wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:43 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:42 ELA wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:41 MCDayC wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:40 IshinShishi wrote:
That's why byun is still decisively better than Taeja, he is a much smarter player, that engibay block made absolutely no sense.

Imo Taeja > Byun pretty clearly right now, but yeah, I've never been hugely impressed with Taeja's builds or early game decisions.


Yeah, early game is his clear weakness I think - But lategame, I don't think any terrans are better than TaeJa in any matchup

Byun and taeja are equal in TvZ and TvT imo but taeja has much better TvP than byun in the late game.

before the seed derp, byun was undefeated vsP since his comeback in GOM events. partly due to his unconventional play, but Byun is an excellent vsP player.

Late game taeja is better but byun's early-mid TvP is fantastic with his funky builds and he's very smart with all ins.

On the back of what is his late game better?Byun has superb control and makes better decisions than his peers at any point, I don't think taeja's macro only can compensate for that, I doubt he can take Byun or Polt in a long game, they will simply constantly make better moves than him.


Unbiased, if any of them had Bomber's micro, it would have been fun to see the domination.

i actually believe marineking actually has the best macro, better than bomber's. in his games vs DRG at MLG Champs which he won, he was NEVER supply blocked and consistently outsupplied DRG (and he didn't always open ccfirst either)

I think aLive has the best macro...

jk.

i like ByuN's macro, hes playing so clean.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 04 2012 16:00 GMT
#1809
On August 05 2012 00:59 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 00:56 sAsImre wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:55 Wintex wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:54 IshinShishi wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:45 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:44 opterown wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:43 Fusilero wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:42 ELA wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:41 MCDayC wrote:
On August 05 2012 00:40 IshinShishi wrote:
That's why byun is still decisively better than Taeja, he is a much smarter player, that engibay block made absolutely no sense.

Imo Taeja > Byun pretty clearly right now, but yeah, I've never been hugely impressed with Taeja's builds or early game decisions.


Yeah, early game is his clear weakness I think - But lategame, I don't think any terrans are better than TaeJa in any matchup

Byun and taeja are equal in TvZ and TvT imo but taeja has much better TvP than byun in the late game.

before the seed derp, byun was undefeated vsP since his comeback in GOM events. partly due to his unconventional play, but Byun is an excellent vsP player.

Late game taeja is better but byun's early-mid TvP is fantastic with his funky builds and he's very smart with all ins.

On the back of what is his late game better?Byun has superb control and makes better decisions than his peers at any point, I don't think taeja's macro only can compensate for that, I doubt he can take Byun or Polt in a long game, they will simply constantly make better moves than him.


Unbiased, if any of them had Bomber's micro, it would have been fun to see the domination.


bomber macro no ?
if bomber wasn't subject of hard choking...


Yes, woops :p That macro is the probably the world's best.
The perfect terran would be:
MKP bio control
TaeJa ghost viking balance+awesomeness
Bomber macro
Mvp planning+decisionmaking+player reading

stuff that, stephano offrace is best terran
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
August 04 2012 16:00 GMT
#1810
MKP's bio control is overrated, it's quite often he gets caught in pretty big fungals. Macro is his strongest point nowadays.
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
August 04 2012 16:01 GMT
#1811
sick mc micro
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 04 2012 16:01 GMT
#1812
HOLY SHIT THOSE FORCEFIELDS O__O

And that Phoenix control!! Wow fantastic engagement.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 04 2012 16:01 GMT
#1813
These are the kind of crazy, super aggressive, action packed games that we need to see more often, damn this was so good!
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 04 2012 16:01 GMT
#1814
Fuck, internet shits itself, I come back and MC IS USING PHOENIXES IN TvP!

THATS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS!
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
August 04 2012 16:01 GMT
#1815
couldn't MC have just win if he run past the bunker
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 04 2012 16:01 GMT
#1816
On August 05 2012 01:00 Chenz wrote:
MKP's bio control is overrated, it's quite often he gets caught in pretty big fungals. Macro is his strongest point nowadays.

not many players have better bio control than him though, even now, two years after he became known for it haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 04 2012 16:01 GMT
#1817
On August 05 2012 01:00 Chenz wrote:
MKP's bio control is overrated, it's quite often he gets caught in pretty big fungals. Macro is his strongest point nowadays.


his bio control allows to do omfg greedy build. in the early game it's not overrated at all.
Zest fanboy.
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 04 2012 16:01 GMT
#1818
did the phoenixes just not shoot while moving?? :O
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
August 04 2012 16:02 GMT
#1819
good time to do an scv all in...but i dont think he can win regardless
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 04 2012 16:02 GMT
#1820
On August 05 2012 01:00 Chenz wrote:
MKP's bio control is overrated, it's quite often he gets caught in pretty big fungals. Macro is his strongest point nowadays.

That's because you can't react to fungals being thrown down, whereas he can beautifully dodge out of cast storms
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
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