• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:58
CET 04:58
KST 12:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool30Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87 [GSL CK] #2: Team Classic vs. Team Solar
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea JaeDong's form before ASL BSL Season 22
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours Small VOD Thread 2.0 IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4223 users

[Day 1] ASUS ROG Summer 2012 - Page 141

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 139 140 141 142 143 200 Next
-FoX
Profile Joined November 2010
United States479 Posts
August 02 2012 18:00 GMT
#2801
EGSuppy making history.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 02 2012 18:01 GMT
#2802
On August 03 2012 02:59 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:57 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:53 Mackus wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:50 sVnteen wrote:
wow suppy 10 pooling all the time lol

he probably cheesed out kas too xD

thos americans


10 pool is not cheese.


9 pool?
8 pool?
7 pool?
6 pool?

all not cheese I guess especially when you pull all your drones....

ret playing quite poorly (if you compare it to how he normally plays)
suppy really having the ez way to victory vs a half dead kas who didn't sleep at all and a ret that is kinda out of shape


People need to understand that doing stuff on reaction is not cheese.

Let's say this as an example: Terran goes 12rax like normal, Zerg goes 15hatch -> 19hatch. Terran scouts this and pulls all his SCVs abandoning his normal gameplan, and bunker rushes him.

This is not cheese.

Very true. Most people won't understand though, and whenever something like this happens there will be a huge shitstorm in LR threads.
Get off my lawn, young punks
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 02 2012 18:01 GMT
#2803
On August 03 2012 02:58 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:57 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:53 Mackus wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:50 sVnteen wrote:
wow suppy 10 pooling all the time lol

he probably cheesed out kas too xD

thos americans


10 pool is not cheese.


9 pool?
8 pool?
7 pool?
6 pool?

all not cheese I guess especially when you pull all your drones....

ret playing quite poorly (if you compare it to how he normally plays)
suppy really having the ez way to victory vs a half dead kas who didn't sleep at all and a ret that is kinda out of shape

It's ZvZ, a 10 Pool is relatively standard.

Besides, it's Ret. You don't want to let him start making Drones... that's the only way he knows how to play. Suppy fighting!

still a huge gamble because if he goes fast speedling + baneling with a 14 pool he just dies
vs a 15 hatch he wins
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 02 2012 18:01 GMT
#2804
On August 03 2012 03:00 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 03:00 MuseMike wrote:
Mana v Recco, /sigh another PvZ with rush to Broods.


thats basicly JRecco for you, rush to broods and def until you have them wat can ya say, it works


not sure losing his 3rd to 4zealots is a part of the plan.
Zest fanboy.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 02 2012 18:01 GMT
#2805
Uch Ret, either he's got sick ZvZ for a while or it's falling apart.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
August 02 2012 18:01 GMT
#2806
On August 03 2012 02:58 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:57 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:53 Mackus wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:50 sVnteen wrote:
wow suppy 10 pooling all the time lol

he probably cheesed out kas too xD

thos americans


10 pool is not cheese.


9 pool?
8 pool?
7 pool?
6 pool?

all not cheese I guess especially when you pull all your drones....

ret playing quite poorly (if you compare it to how he normally plays)
suppy really having the ez way to victory vs a half dead kas who didn't sleep at all and a ret that is kinda out of shape

It's ZvZ, a 10 Pool is relatively standard.

Besides, it's Ret. You don't want to let him start making Drones... that's the only way he knows how to play. Suppy fighting!


A 10 pool is definitely not "relatively standard" in ZvZ...

GGs Suppy. Bossing.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
August 02 2012 18:02 GMT
#2807
Is Suppy going to live in the EG house?
Evil Geniuses<3
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
August 02 2012 18:02 GMT
#2808
On August 03 2012 03:00 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 03:00 MuseMike wrote:
Mana v Recco, /sigh another PvZ with rush to Broods.


thats basicly JRecco for you, rush to broods and def until you have them wat can ya say, it works

It's boring, especially if the Zerg spreads his units. I want to see some interesting engagements.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 02 2012 18:02 GMT
#2809
really sloooow probe pull by Nightend there...
Get off my lawn, young punks
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2012 18:02 GMT
#2810
On August 03 2012 03:01 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:58 Sated wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:57 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:53 Mackus wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:50 sVnteen wrote:
wow suppy 10 pooling all the time lol

he probably cheesed out kas too xD

thos americans


10 pool is not cheese.


9 pool?
8 pool?
7 pool?
6 pool?

all not cheese I guess especially when you pull all your drones....

ret playing quite poorly (if you compare it to how he normally plays)
suppy really having the ez way to victory vs a half dead kas who didn't sleep at all and a ret that is kinda out of shape

It's ZvZ, a 10 Pool is relatively standard.

Besides, it's Ret. You don't want to let him start making Drones... that's the only way he knows how to play. Suppy fighting!

still a huge gamble because if he goes fast speedling + baneling with a 14 pool he just dies
vs a 15 hatch he wins

And 15hatch wins vs 14pool. It's the holy triforce.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
August 02 2012 18:03 GMT
#2811
Go suppy. Go USA!
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 18:04:50
August 02 2012 18:03 GMT
#2812
On August 03 2012 03:02 soulist wrote:
Is Suppy going to live in the EG house?

I dont think so, because he is studying at UC Berkeley.
Killcani
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden448 Posts
August 02 2012 18:03 GMT
#2813
puma vs nightend this is what's wrong with tvp
thegreatpiata
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada54 Posts
August 02 2012 18:04 GMT
#2814
Did the Sase vs BratOK match restart?
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 02 2012 18:04 GMT
#2815
mass stalkers lol

wp nightend
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
August 02 2012 18:04 GMT
#2816
On August 03 2012 03:03 Killcani wrote:
puma vs nightend this is what's wrong with tvp


Not making mass marauder?
Chantastic
Profile Joined June 2012
86 Posts
August 02 2012 18:04 GMT
#2817
On August 03 2012 03:01 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:59 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:57 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:53 Mackus wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:50 sVnteen wrote:
wow suppy 10 pooling all the time lol

he probably cheesed out kas too xD

thos americans


10 pool is not cheese.


9 pool?
8 pool?
7 pool?
6 pool?

all not cheese I guess especially when you pull all your drones....

ret playing quite poorly (if you compare it to how he normally plays)
suppy really having the ez way to victory vs a half dead kas who didn't sleep at all and a ret that is kinda out of shape


People need to understand that doing stuff on reaction is not cheese.

Let's say this as an example: Terran goes 12rax like normal, Zerg goes 15hatch -> 19hatch. Terran scouts this and pulls all his SCVs abandoning his normal gameplan, and bunker rushes him.

This is not cheese.

Very true. Most people won't understand though, and whenever something like this happens there will be a huge shitstorm in LR threads.


NO YOU MUST ALWAYS OUT MACRO THAT IS HOW SKILLED PLAYERS PLAY

But yeah, it's called meta-gaming, and if Ret is going to be known as a super macro player, he should be ready to defend all incoming cheeses associated with a reputation like that. It's like how Naniwa got knocked out by MVP in GSL after Fast Expanding or playing extremely greedy every single game he played up to then
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2012 18:04 GMT
#2818
On August 03 2012 03:03 Killcani wrote:
puma vs nightend this is what's wrong with tvp

The better player winning? I have no problems with that.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
August 02 2012 18:04 GMT
#2819
On August 03 2012 03:03 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 03:02 soulist wrote:
Is Suppy going to live in the EG house?

I dont think so because he is studying at UC Berkeley.


Holy shit. He studies at Berkeley and still dominates.
Evil Geniuses<3
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 02 2012 18:04 GMT
#2820
Well then.

That just happened.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Prev 1 139 140 141 142 143 200 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
22:00
Best Games of SC
Solar vs ByuN
MaxPax vs Solar
Rogue vs Percival
Cure vs Solar
herO vs Solar
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 272
NeuroSwarm 270
Nina 154
ProTech138
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 575
Noble 150
Leta 128
Nal_rA 25
Bale 11
Icarus 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever694
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 666
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor127
Other Games
ViBE142
Trikslyr74
Mew2King41
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick809
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream141
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta49
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1229
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
6h 2m
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
16h 2m
Replay Cast
20h 2m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 6h
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
1d 8h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 13h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Zoun
WardiTV Team League
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jeongseon Sooper Cup
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.