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[IPL] FC27: Squirtle vs Illusion - Page 6

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Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
July 30 2012 23:58 GMT
#101
On July 31 2012 08:57 Snoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 08:55 Kris312 wrote:
Man you can really notice the skill difference here


This is sad because this is the very best that North America has at the moment. What other terran could hold his own against Squirtle? QXC or Major maybe?

Definetly major.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
July 30 2012 23:58 GMT
#102
On July 31 2012 08:57 Snoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 08:55 Kris312 wrote:
Man you can really notice the skill difference here


This is sad because this is the very best that North America has at the moment. What other terran could hold his own against Squirtle? QXC or Major maybe?

Major can probably take a game or 2
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
July 30 2012 23:58 GMT
#103
On July 31 2012 08:57 Snoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 08:55 Kris312 wrote:
Man you can really notice the skill difference here


This is sad because this is the very best that North America has at the moment. What other terran could hold his own against Squirtle? QXC or Major maybe?


I very, very much doubt qxc could, at least for the time being. Major might be a better bet, but I say that because I basically have no real idea as to his skill level.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
July 30 2012 23:59 GMT
#104
major hates TvP so probably no challenge for squirtle
Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
July 31 2012 00:00 GMT
#105
I don't know if IPL appreciate TB telling it like it is, they always like to keep things hyped and continue along the line of "it could go anyone's way" etc.
Kamwah
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom724 Posts
July 31 2012 00:01 GMT
#106
On July 31 2012 08:58 Picklebread wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 08:57 Snoodles wrote:
On July 31 2012 08:55 Kris312 wrote:
Man you can really notice the skill difference here


This is sad because this is the very best that North America has at the moment. What other terran could hold his own against Squirtle? QXC or Major maybe?

Definetly major.


Major is definitely one of the most under-rated Terrans.
Learn to count with CatsPajamas!
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
July 31 2012 00:01 GMT
#107
On July 31 2012 09:00 Surrealistic wrote:
I don't know if IPL appreciate TB telling it like it is, they always like to keep things hyped and continue along the line of "it could go anyone's way" etc.

It's their own fault they invited illusion against the likes of squirtle
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 31 2012 00:02 GMT
#108
@_@ 3-0
not unexpected but were any of the first 3 games close?
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Farmer Poopy
Profile Joined October 2011
258 Posts
July 31 2012 00:03 GMT
#109
I would say Major's overall skill is better than illusion's, but he also said that TvP is his worst MU, so the differential in skill may be smaller than you think... Then again TvP isn't illusion's best MU (I think its TvT?).
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 31 2012 00:03 GMT
#110
On July 31 2012 09:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
@_@ 3-0
not unexpected but were any of the first 3 games close?

Looking purely at supply Illusion's been doing ok, but good god has he made some stupid decisions
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
July 31 2012 00:08 GMT
#111
On July 31 2012 09:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
@_@ 3-0
not unexpected but were any of the first 3 games close?


I missed the first game, but the second game could easily have gone in Illusion's favor. Three base v three base, Colossus and Storm tech out but Illusion in supply lead and with Ghosts and Vikings. Illusion forced a cancel on Squirtle's fourth, got his up as a Planetary and had several very decent trades while pressuring. Ended with Squirtle double expanding, trading off all but one Colossus, went for all Templar/Archon while Illusion went up to 17 Vikings and sniped the Planetary with DTs while Illusion failed to break the fourth or spot the fifth.

With better positioning and better macro, as Illusion's production was lacking and he probably should have had a fifth at some point as well, and of course not forgetting to put up a Turret by his Planetary, he would have won. Of course, I guess all I am saying is that...if Illusion had a much better late game, he would have won. Or he could have won earlier in the game while Squirtle was definitely playing from behind before the time came for the Protoss to be able to tech switch completely off Colossus.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
July 31 2012 00:08 GMT
#112
I wouldn't mind seeing Major take a go at it.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 31 2012 00:09 GMT
#113
Illusoin going mech.. OMG YES.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
jeeneeus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1168 Posts
July 31 2012 00:09 GMT
#114
OMG he's going mech. I'm so excited.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 31 2012 00:10 GMT
#115
somewhere... Artosis is orgasmic


seriously, what makes Illusion thinks this is gonna work? x.x
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
July 31 2012 00:10 GMT
#116
sorry Illusion I know you are probably near the top amongest foreigners and you might be able to take games off of high CodAers and low CodeSers but Squritle is in his own league (along with the other mid to high CodeSers big boys)

5-0, 5-1 Squritle if Squritle's cat decided to suddenly take a nap on his keyboard and won't budge for the enterity of game 4
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
July 31 2012 00:10 GMT
#117
On July 31 2012 08:57 Snoodles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 08:55 Kris312 wrote:
Man you can really notice the skill difference here


This is sad because this is the very best that North America has at the moment. What other terran could hold his own against Squirtle? QXC or Major maybe?


I don't think its sad. NA is known for a lack of terrans and Squirtle is one of the best players in the world.

IPL has a difficult task here with this format. If you have amazing koreans in the defending position but want to bring in foreigners (and NA players especially) who havent played yet, its very hard to find some who got a decent shot.
Don't forget last week when everyone said that vortix will get 5-0ed and then he put up a very decent fight and got 3 games.
I hope Nani and Sase will get a chance soon.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 31 2012 00:10 GMT
#118
Mech?? LOL. This will be entertaining. I like the way Illusion is playing this.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 31 2012 00:10 GMT
#119
sick feedbacks :o
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 31 2012 00:11 GMT
#120
Look like Illusion watched Hack's games.
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