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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 30 2012 10:45 GMT
#2561
lol, just read about Naniwa's "BM"

Don't see why everyone is laying into him, hes showing his passion for the game, plus we all know Zergs are doing lets say....favourably, this patch. All these lesser known Zergs rising up out of nowhere kinda backs that.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Toastie.NL
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands232 Posts
July 30 2012 10:49 GMT
#2562
On July 30 2012 18:22 FreudianTrip wrote:
The fanboy tears are pretty sweet.

I like Nani and his PvP and PvT are sick good but to put it simply, the guys quite clearly on tilt.

I can't believe someone is trying to defend Nani with 'His mechanics are so much better, JRecco is so bad' when not 2 days ago he got Supply Blocked at 18 versus SortOf. The guys lost in the match-up (I feel his pain, I'm fucking terrible at it, effing Infestors) and the fanboys here are trying to disregard every result where he loses as 'OMG SC2 BAD GAME OTHERWISE NANI WOULD HAVE WON' 'OMG NANI SICK MECHANICS JRECCO NOOB SC2 WHAT A JOKE LOL!!!!' etc. etc.

Nah, he's just bad at a match-up. Shit JYP went 0-20 vs Terran. I'm sure he wasn't that bad at PvT but constantly losing made him feel worse at it and so he'd panic or make the wrong move. Shit happens.

80% of Starcraft at the highest level is mental. If you're on tilt you'll probably lose.

edit: Forgot to put a big fat LOL at the dude crying about cross-server when Nani is in Sweden. Best post of the year.

Don't know of the game, haven't seen it, just mentioning it is kind of standard to get blocked at 18 as that block gets you your gate etc
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 11:58:29
July 30 2012 11:57 GMT
#2563
I think Idra and Naniwa would make good buddies.haha xD
Honestly though, gratz to Recco showing his prowess in ZvP.

Naniwa being Naniwa when he loses.
Play your best
Tanngrisnir
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden131 Posts
July 30 2012 12:15 GMT
#2564
Sorry but this Chill guy has to go!

I know he used to be a caster for the old broodwar TSL where he actually had some honey but here he comes casting SC2 telling complete lies and feeding bullshit to the audience like they were facts? wtf?

Please if you havent played the game atleast do not act like an expert, you dont have to be an expert to do comentary!

In fact many of the guys whoms casting I enjoy the most arent experts on gameplay, they are good enough to roll but their main quality is something else.

Take a look at what DjWHEAT and guys like MrBitter is doing, their casting is super good and yet they dont have to educate the audience but rather enhance the experience for the viewers.

Experts are good because they can help educate viewers that arent that experienced and get them more into the game, but that is not the main focus of the broadcast!
A caster should enhance the experience, and like I said a little education on the side is cool but I tried to view RO32 day 2 with chill and apollo (whos one of my absolute favorite casters ever btw.) and it was unbareable.

We dont need a guy constantly educating the viewers, especially not when the guy is very speculative and in many cases just completely wrong. I love apollo and he really did his best to put on a show but everything just dwindled down the education route overall with chill.


Also somehow Chills casting tends to be very redundant somehow. Same words over and over again its like beeing spammed in a voicechat. I liked chill as a sidekick expert for BW but this isnt working =(

Maybe Im just spoiled with guys like Wheat and Artosis but this is what I felt and I couldnt stand watching more then a few games.

Overall super excited about TSL4 and loved day 1! <3
God of thunder, god of pain!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 12:24:57
July 30 2012 12:24 GMT
#2565
On July 30 2012 20:57 FakeDeath wrote:
I think Idra and Naniwa would make good buddies.haha xD
.


I don't think so Can't imagine a discussion between them about ZvP balance.

Tanngrisnir
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden131 Posts
July 30 2012 12:35 GMT
#2566
On July 30 2012 21:24 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 20:57 FakeDeath wrote:
I think Idra and Naniwa would make good buddies.haha xD
.


I don't think so Can't imagine a discussion between them about ZvP balance.



I would imagine NaNiwa overwhelming IdrA with knowledge and arguments, and idra ripping his hair and shouting YOU ARE STUPID!
God of thunder, god of pain!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 12:36:29
July 30 2012 12:35 GMT
#2567
On July 30 2012 21:15 Tanngrisnir wrote:
Sorry but this Chill guy has to go!

I know he used to be a caster for the old broodwar TSL where he actually had some honey but here he comes casting SC2 telling complete lies and feeding bullshit to the audience like they were facts? wtf?

Please if you havent played the game atleast do not act like an expert, you dont have to be an expert to do comentary!

In fact many of the guys whoms casting I enjoy the most arent experts on gameplay, they are good enough to roll but their main quality is something else.

Take a look at what DjWHEAT and guys like MrBitter is doing, their casting is super good and yet they dont have to educate the audience but rather enhance the experience for the viewers.

Experts are good because they can help educate viewers that arent that experienced and get them more into the game, but that is not the main focus of the broadcast!
A caster should enhance the experience, and like I said a little education on the side is cool but I tried to view RO32 day 2 with chill and apollo (whos one of my absolute favorite casters ever btw.) and it was unbareable.

We dont need a guy constantly educating the viewers, especially not when the guy is very speculative and in many cases just completely wrong. I love apollo and he really did his best to put on a show but everything just dwindled down the education route overall with chill.


Also somehow Chills casting tends to be very redundant somehow. Same words over and over again its like beeing spammed in a voicechat. I liked chill as a sidekick expert for BW but this isnt working =(

Maybe Im just spoiled with guys like Wheat and Artosis but this is what I felt and I couldnt stand watching more then a few games.

Overall super excited about TSL4 and loved day 1! <3


Never going to happen, Chill is an icon of TSL and It's the only thing he casts. I would be sad if he didn't cast it anymore.

Try to relax and have fun while watching and it won't bother you, TSL4 is a tournament for the community after all It doesn't have to be super professional.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 30 2012 12:40 GMT
#2568
On July 30 2012 21:15 Tanngrisnir wrote:
Sorry but this Chill guy has to go!

I know he used to be a caster for the old broodwar TSL where he actually had some honey but here he comes casting SC2 telling complete lies and feeding bullshit to the audience like they were facts? wtf?

Please if you havent played the game atleast do not act like an expert, you dont have to be an expert to do comentary!

In fact many of the guys whoms casting I enjoy the most arent experts on gameplay, they are good enough to roll but their main quality is something else.

Take a look at what DjWHEAT and guys like MrBitter is doing, their casting is super good and yet they dont have to educate the audience but rather enhance the experience for the viewers.

Experts are good because they can help educate viewers that arent that experienced and get them more into the game, but that is not the main focus of the broadcast!
A caster should enhance the experience, and like I said a little education on the side is cool but I tried to view RO32 day 2 with chill and apollo (whos one of my absolute favorite casters ever btw.) and it was unbareable.

We dont need a guy constantly educating the viewers, especially not when the guy is very speculative and in many cases just completely wrong. I love apollo and he really did his best to put on a show but everything just dwindled down the education route overall with chill.


Also somehow Chills casting tends to be very redundant somehow. Same words over and over again its like beeing spammed in a voicechat. I liked chill as a sidekick expert for BW but this isnt working =(


Maybe Im just spoiled with guys like Wheat and Artosis but this is what I felt and I couldnt stand watching more then a few games.

Overall super excited about TSL4 and loved day 1! <3


Apollo does this all the time and it's really annoying. He uses the same few phrases to describe high-intensity moments and it is very obvious.

I would imagine NaNiwa overwhelming IdrA with knowledge and arguments, and idra ripping his hair and shouting YOU ARE STUPID!


I wouldn't give Nani that much credit...
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 12:50:04
July 30 2012 12:49 GMT
#2569
I'm so happy Naniwa lost : D

Gratz to JohnnyREcco !
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 30 2012 12:56 GMT
#2570
On July 30 2012 16:25 s1ege wrote:
Naniwa ONLY lost ecause it was cross server. That is 100% the reason he lost. Had he been in Sweden or offline at the time it would've been a one sided 3-0 for naniwa. Naniwa beat NesTea at MLG, I don't know how he lost to the likes of jonnyrecco or sortof

I think this guy wins the thread
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
July 30 2012 14:20 GMT
#2571
On July 30 2012 21:49 a3den wrote:
I'm so happy Naniwa lost : D

Gratz to JohnnyREcco !


Me too . What a great day
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 30 2012 14:31 GMT
#2572
Didn't finish watching the last game. Damn, Elfi still lost that. Too bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
July 30 2012 14:57 GMT
#2573
On July 30 2012 21:15 Tanngrisnir wrote:
Please if you havent played the game atleast do not act like an expert, you dont have to be an expert to do comentary!

Check my match history. I can't comment on acting like an expert, but if you have any specific examples I'll work on them.

Also somehow Chills casting tends to be very redundant somehow. Same words over and over again its like beeing spammed in a voicechat.

Any specific examples I can work on? Feel free to PM me since you're banned.
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 30 2012 15:07 GMT
#2574
On July 30 2012 23:57 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 21:15 Tanngrisnir wrote:
Please if you havent played the game atleast do not act like an expert, you dont have to be an expert to do comentary!

Check my match history. I can't comment on acting like an expert, but if you have any specific examples I'll work on them.

Show nested quote +
Also somehow Chills casting tends to be very redundant somehow. Same words over and over again its like beeing spammed in a voicechat.

Any specific examples I can work on? Feel free to PM me since you're banned.


He's banned because he's a huge troll, ignore him Chill, you're awesome :D
s1ege
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)123 Posts
July 30 2012 15:20 GMT
#2575
I actually find it funny how most of you are acting like jonnyrecco is the next stephano. He's not, get over it.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 15:32:07
July 30 2012 15:29 GMT
#2576
On July 30 2012 19:49 Toastie.NL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 18:22 FreudianTrip wrote:
The fanboy tears are pretty sweet.

I like Nani and his PvP and PvT are sick good but to put it simply, the guys quite clearly on tilt.

I can't believe someone is trying to defend Nani with 'His mechanics are so much better, JRecco is so bad' when not 2 days ago he got Supply Blocked at 18 versus SortOf. The guys lost in the match-up (I feel his pain, I'm fucking terrible at it, effing Infestors) and the fanboys here are trying to disregard every result where he loses as 'OMG SC2 BAD GAME OTHERWISE NANI WOULD HAVE WON' 'OMG NANI SICK MECHANICS JRECCO NOOB SC2 WHAT A JOKE LOL!!!!' etc. etc.

Nah, he's just bad at a match-up. Shit JYP went 0-20 vs Terran. I'm sure he wasn't that bad at PvT but constantly losing made him feel worse at it and so he'd panic or make the wrong move. Shit happens.

80% of Starcraft at the highest level is mental. If you're on tilt you'll probably lose.

edit: Forgot to put a big fat LOL at the dude crying about cross-server when Nani is in Sweden. Best post of the year.

Don't know of the game, haven't seen it, just mentioning it is kind of standard to get blocked at 18 as that block gets you your gate etc


:/ If you haven't seen the game why are you commenting. He was doing a normal Gate, Gas, Pylon, Cybercore opening it's the bread and butter of any match-up. You do it every PvP and 90% of your TvPs.

On July 31 2012 00:20 s1ege wrote:
I actually find it funny how most of you are acting like jonnyrecco is the next stephano. He's not, get over it.


Absolutely no-one said that whatsoever. Not even in your wildest Naniwa fanboy dreams.

What happened to your cross server excuse? Stop trolling or go away please.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 15:31:11
July 30 2012 15:30 GMT
#2577
Double post - sorry please delete
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
July 30 2012 15:37 GMT
#2578
I find it a bit sickening how many people are taking pleasure in watching Naniwa fail. It's a really weird attitude. There seems to be a lot of people who dislike Naniwa intensely, which is strange enough from people who don't even personally know him, but then to say that he doesn't deserve to be in Code S and laughing and rejoicing when he is on tilt in a weak matchup? I watch Starcraft because I love the game, and I do believe that there is so much about Starcraft that is positive and wonderful. I think that people who view it fueled by spite are missing out. I'm happy for JohnnyRecco, it was a big game for him and he's obviously growing as a player. But I'm also excited to see Naniwa figure out PvZ and come back in form, because he's a creative and smart player.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
July 30 2012 15:47 GMT
#2579
See, s1ege. That's how you make a post as a Naniwa fan. Not make non existent excuses and then make up what other people have said.
s1ege
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 16:09:50
July 30 2012 16:08 GMT
#2580
On July 31 2012 00:47 FreudianTrip wrote:
See, s1ege. That's how you make a post as a Naniwa fan. Not make non existent excuses and then make up what other people have said.


I'm not a Naniwa fanboy, I just don't like heavily overrated kids like JonnyRecco. People act like he's the next big thing just because he beat Naniwa, who's bad versus Zerg, which is why he lost to equally overrated SortOf. His play was nothing remarkable...he plays just like any other non Ret or Stephano Zerg would against Protoss. Again, Naniwa is just bad against Zerg and that's all there is to it.
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