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On July 23 2012 19:00 aznball123 wrote:
The best part of these results are.. so many people bashed on KeSpa players that they were going to get trashed by GSL players and was going to be one sided. I'm glad it isn't, just proves you can never judge the skill level of BW pros.
Well, they still have not take a single group yet. Yes, some code S players have gone down. But BW pros also losing to Code B/A players. I would say some of them are top Code B/Code A level which was what the expectations were from player interviews (both Kespa and GSL players)
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On July 23 2012 19:03 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:02 bgx wrote:On July 23 2012 18:59 rauk wrote:On July 23 2012 18:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:On July 23 2012 18:52 Vei wrote:
So was Reality a pretty good BW player ;x hes a good BW player while not great in individual league, but in proleague hes a beast, especially TvT. reality always struck me as a rookie who never really had a break out performance.. i guess his lifetime 42% winratio is kind of misleading considering his recent performances. If you actually think that most of top SC2 players were (I DONT WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE) nobodies in proleague. There is potential for anyone to shine and you cant really predict that. Look at Anyppi who was 1-10 (!) in proleague, he just had his breakout performance in SC2 at MLG/TSL qualifiers. Many top players of BW may also fall in SC2 too.
please don't start with july/nada/boxer again.... they were all about as bad as MC by the time they switched to sc2
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Ragnarok isn't that known but he shouldn't be underestimated.
Hope Stork can win, gogo!
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On July 23 2012 19:01 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 18:59 vthree wrote:On July 23 2012 18:57 bgx wrote:
Its not a testament that kespa players will dominate, thats not the point of the discussion, there is not enough evidence yet.
However the point is kespa players can compete vs GSL players and beat them (on off day whatever). Which means the gap is not that big and can be easily patched with Effort. Since a lot of Kespa players made GM on ladder, we kind of already knew the gap wasn't that big. kespa players are playing two games and every single time anyone brought up kespa vs gom it's "maybe after hots, gap is way too big no way they can catch up right now" Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:00 Emperor_Earth wrote:On July 23 2012 18:57 IshinShishi wrote:On July 23 2012 18:55 Fionn wrote:
Polt and Bogus 1-1. Currently on final map. Did bogus cheese Polt?I can't fathom polt losing macro games with his understanding of the game. No idea, but Bogus is a top 5 BW Terran. FlaSh and FantaSy are 1/2 in some order obviously. Then you have Bogus/Leta/Baby in some order Then you have the next tier, Reality/TurN/Mind/Sea/sKyHigh/etc light is solid number 3 terran :>
Light would be the third tier. He was second tier for awhile, but outside of his TvZ, he's very inconsistent. His TvP is godawful and his TvT entirely dependent on gimmicks. I would argue that Bogus is #3 and it's a tossup between Leta and Baby. Baby is the best aggressive multitasker on the planet but his management game still needs serious work. Leta makes some great decisions but mechanics wise is much more limited.
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=( I know nothing about Bogus but I like his name  . Oh well Polt is a great player, would be good to see him in WCS.
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Polt vs. Maru/Hyun in Group M Final.
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On July 23 2012 19:03 aznball123 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:01 johnnywup wrote:On July 23 2012 19:00 aznball123 wrote:
The best part of these results are.. so many people bashed on KeSpa players that they were going to get trashed by GSL players and was going to be one sided. I'm glad it isn't, just proves you can never judge the skill level of BW pros. it's pretty one sided when you look at results of other groups :O If it was one sided, they would've even have made it anywhere near the finals.
We're all quite happy that they are doing well though. No bashing or whining. You can clearly see where all the negativity is coming from.
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On July 23 2012 19:03 Fionn wrote:
Polt wins 2-1 over Bogus.
How you watching this?
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On July 23 2012 19:05 Emperor_Earth wrote:How you watching this?
Match histories.
Bogus won game one. Polt won last two.
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On July 23 2012 19:04 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:03 Wildmoon wrote:On July 23 2012 19:02 bgx wrote:On July 23 2012 18:59 rauk wrote:On July 23 2012 18:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:On July 23 2012 18:52 Vei wrote:
So was Reality a pretty good BW player ;x hes a good BW player while not great in individual league, but in proleague hes a beast, especially TvT. reality always struck me as a rookie who never really had a break out performance.. i guess his lifetime 42% winratio is kind of misleading considering his recent performances. If you actually think that most of top SC2 players were (I DONT WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE) nobodies in proleague. There is potential for anyone to shine and you cant really predict that. Look at Anyppi who was 1-10 (!) in proleague, he just had his breakout performance in SC2 at MLG/TSL qualifiers. Many top players of BW may also fall in SC2 too. please don't start with july/nada/boxer again.... they were all about as bad as MC by the time they switched to sc2
No, I mean some current top players of BW may never be as good as they were in BW and new star will rise.
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SMART as fuck play by Stork. Doesn't chrono the void to make it seem like he will cancel and chrono phoenix, but then chronos after it dies. I don't THINK i'm reading too much into this 
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On July 23 2012 19:03 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:02 bgx wrote:On July 23 2012 18:59 rauk wrote:On July 23 2012 18:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:On July 23 2012 18:52 Vei wrote:
So was Reality a pretty good BW player ;x hes a good BW player while not great in individual league, but in proleague hes a beast, especially TvT. reality always struck me as a rookie who never really had a break out performance.. i guess his lifetime 42% winratio is kind of misleading considering his recent performances. If you actually think that most of top SC2 players were (I DONT WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE) nobodies in proleague. There is potential for anyone to shine and you cant really predict that. Look at Anyppi who was 1-10 (!) in proleague, he just had his breakout performance in SC2 at MLG/TSL qualifiers. Many top players of BW may also fall in SC2 too.
Of course im just talking about potential.
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On July 23 2012 19:05 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:05 Emperor_Earth wrote:On July 23 2012 19:03 Fionn wrote:
Polt wins 2-1 over Bogus. How you watching this? Match histories. Bogus won game one. Polt won last two.
Damn, was hoping for a stream option. Staring at numbers after [F5]ing just doesn't compare.
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On July 23 2012 19:05 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:04 rauk wrote:On July 23 2012 19:03 Wildmoon wrote:On July 23 2012 19:02 bgx wrote:On July 23 2012 18:59 rauk wrote:On July 23 2012 18:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:On July 23 2012 18:52 Vei wrote:
So was Reality a pretty good BW player ;x hes a good BW player while not great in individual league, but in proleague hes a beast, especially TvT. reality always struck me as a rookie who never really had a break out performance.. i guess his lifetime 42% winratio is kind of misleading considering his recent performances. If you actually think that most of top SC2 players were (I DONT WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE) nobodies in proleague. There is potential for anyone to shine and you cant really predict that. Look at Anyppi who was 1-10 (!) in proleague, he just had his breakout performance in SC2 at MLG/TSL qualifiers. Many top players of BW may also fall in SC2 too. please don't start with july/nada/boxer again.... they were all about as bad as MC by the time they switched to sc2 No, I mean some current top players of BW may never be as good as they were in BW and new star will rise.
yea sorry misread
bisu....... unless best can feed him some builds and teach how to not suck.. lol i can see bisu retiring pretty soon fuck skt
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On July 23 2012 19:06 Emperor_Earth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:05 Fionn wrote:On July 23 2012 19:05 Emperor_Earth wrote:On July 23 2012 19:03 Fionn wrote:
Polt wins 2-1 over Bogus. How you watching this? Match histories. Bogus won game one. Polt won last two. Damn, was hoping for a stream option. Staring at numbers after [F5]ing just doesn't compare.
Yeah the stream is set up pretty poorly, but still a lot better than only korean stream or no stream at all, also wish we had someone on site who would keep the liquidpedia brackets 100% up to date.
Stork is playing quiet well imo, I would love to see him qualify.
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On July 23 2012 19:05 Vei wrote:SMART as fuck play by Stork. Doesn't chrono the void to make it seem like he will cancel and chrono phoenix, but then chronos after it dies. I don't THINK i'm reading too much into this
yeah youre reading too much into that
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On July 23 2012 19:06 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:05 Wildmoon wrote:On July 23 2012 19:04 rauk wrote:On July 23 2012 19:03 Wildmoon wrote:On July 23 2012 19:02 bgx wrote:On July 23 2012 18:59 rauk wrote:On July 23 2012 18:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:On July 23 2012 18:52 Vei wrote:
So was Reality a pretty good BW player ;x hes a good BW player while not great in individual league, but in proleague hes a beast, especially TvT. reality always struck me as a rookie who never really had a break out performance.. i guess his lifetime 42% winratio is kind of misleading considering his recent performances. If you actually think that most of top SC2 players were (I DONT WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE) nobodies in proleague. There is potential for anyone to shine and you cant really predict that. Look at Anyppi who was 1-10 (!) in proleague, he just had his breakout performance in SC2 at MLG/TSL qualifiers. Many top players of BW may also fall in SC2 too. please don't start with july/nada/boxer again.... they were all about as bad as MC by the time they switched to sc2 No, I mean some current top players of BW may never be as good as they were in BW and new star will rise. yea sorry misread bisu....... unless best can feed him some builds and teach how to not suck.. lol i can see bisu retiring pretty soon fuck skt
Bisu will do much better in HotS. Also, he's historically been a slump-great-slump-great player. But especially with more harass potential in HotS he will be much better. His strength is unit control in terms of apm/multitask, rather than accuracy.
[Edit: spelling]
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On July 23 2012 18:59 Tachion wrote:
In the past 30 days Symbol is 10-20. 33% win rate.
In the month before that his stats were 37-19, 61% win rate.
That's a big drop off over the course of a month.
Not against terran, however. In the past month he beat Byun, Clide and Marineking and lost against Sculp. Byun of course being the top terran in GSL Code S.
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The Zerg is making Hydralisks.
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On July 23 2012 19:07 johnnywup wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2012 19:05 Vei wrote:SMART as fuck play by Stork. Doesn't chrono the void to make it seem like he will cancel and chrono phoenix, but then chronos after it dies. I don't THINK i'm reading too much into this yeah youre reading too much into that
possibly.
And nice phoenix control by him just now, too many people don't have immediate graviton-cancel timing imo.
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