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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 22 2012 10:48 GMT
#2301
On July 22 2012 19:42 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 19:38 bittman wrote:
I can't be a fan of Curious, he's just too...average. I hope he breaks out of his shell eventually, because he does post results worth grabbing some fans.


How is a player being average in Code S not deserving any fans? For example,Incontrol has so many fans, does it mean that he is the top notch gosu?


Being famous and having fans is not restricted to being a skilled player.
Yes, Curious is a strong player, but he's always completely emotionless. He doesn't do unique interviews like Seed, he doesn't show confidence (cockiness) like MC and he doesn't have a unique playstyle.
He also didn't win a big tournament yet.
He has nothing that makes him special and therefore he is considered average.

He has the skill to be known and famous but skill in the game is not enough :/
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
July 22 2012 10:49 GMT
#2302
On July 22 2012 19:45 Coffin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 19:42 MaNaVoId wrote:
On July 22 2012 19:38 bittman wrote:
I can't be a fan of Curious, he's just too...average. I hope he breaks out of his shell eventually, because he does post results worth grabbing some fans.


How is a player being average in Code S not deserving any fans? For example,Incontrol has so many fans, does it mean that he is the top notch gosu?


I think he was talking about his personality.


Pretty much, I mean I mentioned his results as ok and "worth grabbing fans". Incontrol has fans because of his personality, I'm not sure why that's relevant to what I said.

But even beyond personality, Curious' play is the definition of standard. I've seen him play some good series (that sick Code A run) but I've also never seen him in a spectacular series. Perhaps he has had some, I've just never seen them =S
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 10:52:18
July 22 2012 10:51 GMT
#2303
It's like in those old days where everyone talked about "generic korean terran player X". They were good players, in Code S, but didn't stand out like MVP or MarineKing. I feel like Curious is like that with zerg. There's a lot more fashionable zergs out there that everyone wants to follow, and these days more and more zergs are popping up, he doesn't really stand out so well in the crowd, even though he's good.

Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
July 22 2012 10:53 GMT
#2304
On July 22 2012 19:47 Weavel wrote:
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On July 22 2012 19:44 Asha` wrote:
On July 22 2012 19:42 vthree wrote:
Wow,

2 IM - dreamertt, Happy
2 Prime - BBBB, Creator
2 ST - Hack, Curious
2 Slayers - Puzzle, Coca


you mean 3 Zenex

#still bitter
#sad about their disbanding
#tears
I know that feeling T_T. Feels wrong to cheer for any other team than Zenex.


Why not StarTale? They're even keeping the main coach.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
July 22 2012 11:01 GMT
#2305
On July 22 2012 19:53 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 19:47 Weavel wrote:
On July 22 2012 19:44 Asha` wrote:
On July 22 2012 19:42 vthree wrote:
Wow,

2 IM - dreamertt, Happy
2 Prime - BBBB, Creator
2 ST - Hack, Curious
2 Slayers - Puzzle, Coca


you mean 3 Zenex

#still bitter
#sad about their disbanding
#tears
I know that feeling T_T. Feels wrong to cheer for any other team than Zenex.


Why not StarTale? They're even keeping the main coach.
I'll definetly cheer for Startale once I stop mourning for Zenex.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 22 2012 11:04 GMT
#2306
Man, Curious won Code A (premier tournament, and one of the most difficult tournaments back then) without dropping a single game! That makes him more accomplished than basically everyone in the foreign scene except the top 5-ish foreigners.

His stoned-face? Curious' personality and character derives from his lack of emotion and apathy. He is the counter-weight to the MCs and Firebatheros out there. He's kind of like a Korean Haypro.

By the way, Kespa got killed today. Champions like Flash and Fantasy losing to low-key SC2 players must be humbling :|
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
July 22 2012 11:05 GMT
#2307
Aw TheBest was so close!!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 22 2012 11:07 GMT
#2308
On July 22 2012 20:04 Bagration wrote:
Man, Curious won Code A (premier tournament, and one of the most difficult tournaments back then) without dropping a single game! That makes him more accomplished than basically everyone in the foreign scene except the top 5-ish foreigners.

His stoned-face? Curious' personality and character derives from his lack of emotion and apathy. He is the counter-weight to the MCs and Firebatheros out there. He's kind of like a Korean Haypro.

By the way, Kespa got killed today. Champions like Flash and Fantasy losing to low-key SC2 players must be humbling :|

With Flash and Fantasy practicing tons for the OSL I don't think its too humbling.

The KeSPA players know their place, and their efforts today are heartening as they are definitely improving despite the split-game situation. The future looks bright for them.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
July 22 2012 11:09 GMT
#2309
So with todays results, can we agree that KESPA players have not even reached forgeiner sc2 skill level yet?
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
July 22 2012 11:10 GMT
#2310
If anything, I think it makes them work even harder knowing they're so close to the GSL player's levels already. A lot of them took games off Code A/S players today, maybe not the 2 required for the series win, but even taking a game off them and being 1 game away from winning shows they've come a long way in a short amount of time.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
July 22 2012 11:11 GMT
#2311
I am actually quite impressed by some Kespa players, especially zero. Despite playing mainly BW until the OSL semis he reached the final in his group beating some notable players.
I agree there future looks bright.
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
Coffin
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany229 Posts
July 22 2012 11:11 GMT
#2312
Curious is basically the dean malenko of starcraft then. Just give him the nickname the ice man and all will be set.
Drazzzt
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany999 Posts
July 22 2012 11:13 GMT
#2313
On July 22 2012 20:09 Sea_Food wrote:
So with todays results, can we agree that KESPA players have not even reached forgeiner sc2 skill level yet?

Are talking about Naniwa and Stephano or about foreigners in general?? Lol. There are not that many foreigners who would be able to take a groups in this WCS qualifier. and some Kespa players came quite close
Be Nice, Be Fair, Be Mannered.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
July 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2314
Come on, Kespa. Someone's gotta qualify from you guys.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 11:18:04
July 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2315
On July 22 2012 20:09 Sea_Food wrote:
So with todays results, can we agree that KESPA players have not even reached forgeiner sc2 skill level yet?


Why, because they beat a few players but lost to others?

Put foreigners in the same tournament and I doubt they'd really do better bar maybe Stephano and Naniwa.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 22 2012 11:17 GMT
#2316
On July 22 2012 20:09 Sea_Food wrote:
So with todays results, can we agree that KESPA players have not even reached forgeiner sc2 skill level yet?
We can agree they are improving really fast. A couple of weeks earlier, there wouldn't have been 3 Kespa players in their respective group finals, Flash 2-0'ing Brown and taking a game off of Sniper in TvZ, Shy out-PvP'ing Inca, Light beating Jjakji, Zero beating Tassadar and Terious etc.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
July 22 2012 11:20 GMT
#2317
On July 22 2012 20:13 Drazzzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 20:09 Sea_Food wrote:
So with todays results, can we agree that KESPA players have not even reached forgeiner sc2 skill level yet?

Are talking about Naniwa and Stephano or about foreigners in general?? Lol. There are not that many foreigners who would be able to take a groups in this WCS qualifier. and some Kespa players came quite close


In fact Naniwa and Stephano might be the only ones capable of doing so....
The results are widely as expected. BBongBBong is quite a surprise, since he really slumped lately as the whole prime team seemed to do. But they all look like they pulled themselves out of their hole together. Quite nice to see!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 11:24:26
July 22 2012 11:21 GMT
#2318
On July 22 2012 20:09 Sea_Food wrote:
So with todays results, can we agree that KESPA players have not even reached forgeiner sc2 skill level yet?

Well they have varied skill levels. Bisu looked appauling tbh, but others were very competitive with their GSL opponents. I don't think many (or any ) Foreigners could beat Jjakji in a TvT Bo3.

paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
July 22 2012 11:25 GMT
#2319
The KeSPA players did well in my opinion, 2 of them managed to make the finals which is impressive considering the amount of time they have played, and some of the players that went out in the early rounds still looked pretty competitive.
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
July 22 2012 11:27 GMT
#2320
I was hoping to at least see a couple of the KESPA players advance.
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