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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1881
Protoss hero, well done
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 14:52:19
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1882
San just pulled off the biggest upset since he made it out of his last insane Ro32 group way way back during early Code S.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1883
the MAN, the MYTH, the LEGEND.

Yay for San, even if that game was super boring haha
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1884
MANZENITH......REACH WOULD BE FUCKING PROUD!
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1885
haha good bye symbol :D
Terran & Potato Salad.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1886
ManZenith cares little for the swarm.
Glorious SEA doto
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1887
What just happened...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1888
Where did San go for the past year or so? Is he making a resurgence?
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1889
ManZenith shows up in the weirdest of times hahaha
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 14:52:59
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1890
LOL MAN YOU'RE THE SAN.
I'M ABOUT TO LOSE MY MANITY OVER HERE OLOLOL.

Edit: That didn't come out right, did it...
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1891
Just back, what the hell happened ? Did San really beat Symbol ?
LiquipediaWanderer
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1892
YEAH MANZENITH YOU GO AND BREAK MY PREDICTIONS
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 16 2012 14:52 GMT
#1893
There's a reason a lot of the GSL protoss consult San for practice and builds
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
July 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#1894
Manzenith man... I feel so bad for Symbol. Everyone said he would crush, and now he just died in both leagues
The Bomber boy
PradamadeR
Profile Joined February 2012
123 Posts
July 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#1895
Well hard week for symbol tho
but im happy for NSHS
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
July 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#1896
now its time to come up witn bo1 suck, again..
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
July 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#1897
On July 16 2012 23:51 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 23:41 vthree wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:38 Fubi wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:35 Dodgin wrote:
On July 16 2012 23:34 Fubi wrote:
Bo1 is so retarded; OSL needs to realize that SC2 is much more volatile and less figured out than BW, pretty much anyone can beat anyone else in a Bo1, add the random map pool on top to ice the cake and you'll have these random games where anyone can advance


I think the games have been pretty high quality, and the better play has won.

Byun went for an all-in and failed, It's his fault.

Right, the Bo1's can still be high quality and the better players can still win in that one game, but that doesn't change the fact that the games can go either way, and it also makes the random map choice really retarded.


Yes, and an argument could be made Bo5 is even better and Bo7, Bo9... You can go on and on. But unless they only do 1 group per day, Bo3 just takes too long unless they are all cheese games. You can also argue dual tournament format could be unfair depending on who plays whom first and full round robin is better.

The difference is, Bo1 allows for the randomness in the game (and maps) to come into play a lot more. A player of lower league can still beat a top player if it's just a Bo1, but going up to Bo3 decreases this chance exponentially. Where as the jump going up from Bo7 to Bo9 is negligible because there is almost no chance the lesser player will win in either of this case anyways, that's why higher BoX series is only needed when player's skill gaps get closer and closer (as in the tournament goes higher and higher).

I mean yea, I agree there is always a trade-off between time and accuracy of determining the better players advancing. I just feel that the trade off is worth it for at least going up to Bo3

It doesn't decrease the chances exponentially at all. Do the maths with 60-40 for instance, the difference is actually pretty small.
Bo1 is perfectly fine, and I doubt OGN will change it.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#1898
On July 16 2012 23:52 ZenithM wrote:
LOL MAN YOU'RE THE SAN.
I'M ABOUT TO LOSE MY MANITY OVER HERE OLOLOL.

Edit: That didn't come out right, did it...

It came out perfectly
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
July 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#1899
San: After losing to DRG, I thought I will just lose both games and get eliminated, but since I advanced like this I'm really happy.

San: Even though I may currently be Code B, I believe I am a Code S caliber player so I'm not afraid of anybody.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 16 2012 14:53 GMT
#1900
Always good to see gimmicky baneling drops fail.
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