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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51544 Posts
On July 14 2012 04:54 neoghaleon55 wrote: I heard it's confirmed no English stream. Which is terrible. All that talk about trying to globalize esports is just KeSPA talking out of their ass, it seems. Meh, korean casters are far better to listen to even if I don't understand them. Also your comment on kespa is irrelevant OGN=/=kespa | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 13 2012 17:39 opterown wrote: Poll: Who will advance from Group B? DongRaeGu & Symbol (66) DongRaeGu & ByuN (59) Symbol & ByuN (16) DongRaeGu & San (10) San & ByuN (5) San & Symbol (3) 159 total votes Your vote: Who will advance from Group B? (Vote): DongRaeGu & ByuN lol, pool looks a lot diff now, drg/byun is favourite rather than drg/symbol (they were like 60% before) after GSL RO8 | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On July 14 2012 08:59 opterown wrote: lol, pool looks a lot diff now, drg/byun is favourite rather than drg/symbol (they were like 60% before) after GSL RO8 I know Symbol and Nestea aren't the same zergs but Byun looked really good. His TvZ was a little bit scary, incredibly ruthless. Saying that, Symbol losing to Seed doesn't mean he is instantly bad; so the possibility of both zergs progressing is highly likely. Symbol is one hell of a beast. At the very least we should get some sick, sick games! | ||
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trwkling
658 Posts
On July 14 2012 09:26 bkrow wrote: I know Symbol and Nestea aren't the same zergs but Byun looked really good. His TvZ was a little bit scary, incredibly ruthless. Saying that, Symbol losing to Seed doesn't mean he is instantly bad; so the possibility of both zergs progressing is highly likely. Symbol is one hell of a beast. At the very least we should get some sick, sick games! indeed. hoping for byun but for how many times symbol owned mkp, his tvz is really fearful. this should be an interesting group indeed :D | ||
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Coolness53
United States668 Posts
On July 14 2012 09:26 bkrow wrote: I know Symbol and Nestea aren't the same zergs but Byun looked really good. His TvZ was a little bit scary, incredibly ruthless. Saying that, Symbol losing to Seed doesn't mean he is instantly bad; so the possibility of both zergs progressing is highly likely. Symbol is one hell of a beast. At the very least we should get some sick, sick games! Byun vs Symbol is very interesting to me. I feel right now Symbol is better then Nestea but Byun is a beast. It will be interesting to see them both. I just hope DRG can make it out of the group without getting to Entombed Valley. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 14 2012 04:54 neoghaleon55 wrote: I heard it's confirmed no English stream. Which is terrible. All that talk about trying to globalize esports is just KeSPA talking out of their ass, it seems. OSL is not going to be very popular with foreigners I don't think, I don't know if OGN cares about that or not though. On July 14 2012 08:58 BLinD-RawR wrote: Meh, korean casters are far better to listen to even if you don't understand them. Also your comment on kespa is irrelevant OGN=/=kespa You know that, and I know that. But the majority of people who watch SC2 don't know or agree with that. OGN is not going to reach a large foreign audience without an official English stream, unless Sayle commentates every day and everyone watches that. Even if that does happen the numbers will not be on an official stream and OGN may not even know that the numbers are there and abandon all plans to cater to international viewers because of the low count on official streams. ( this may have already happened and might be the reason why there is no English stream, actually. ) | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On July 13 2012 17:41 ElephantBaby wrote: OSL games are always precious, that's a good thing. Players prepare couple weeks for one single OSL game, that's why we love OSL so much. Your love is going to end when you start seeing what SC 2 Bo1s end up producing. | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3700 Posts
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On July 14 2012 08:58 BLinD-RawR wrote: Meh, korean casters are far better to listen to even if you don't understand them. Also your comment on kespa is irrelevant OGN=/=kespa uhh I completely disagree. They are interesting to listen to for short portions but I MUCH prefer the better English casters. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On July 14 2012 09:56 Azarkon wrote: Your love is going to end when you start seeing what SC 2 Bo1s end up producing. They have pretty much the exact same potential for a quality SC2 game as a BO7 in SC2 so please refrain from acting like a BW elitist  thx. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
1. Just because it's been done this way for ages doesn't mean there isn't a better solution to broadcast to foreign audiences. 2. Korean commentators and English ones have completely different cultures behind them. Go check out how many Tastosis quotes there are on youtube and you realize that international esports has taken on a life of its own. 3. Please be courteous to the fact that there are people out there who actually enjoys UNDERSTANDING what they are listening to. You can downplay the language barrier, but it's indisputable that not understanding korean leaves you missing out on social commentaries, jokes and cultural references. In that respect you miss out 80% of the delivered content. The times have changed. Keep that in mind before you post something stupid. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51544 Posts
I find korean commentators to be superior yes, but don't act like I tried to assert that belief onto you so you don't need to get all that defensive. | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On July 14 2012 04:54 neoghaleon55 wrote: I heard it's confirmed no English stream. Which is terrible. All that talk about trying to globalize esports is just KeSPA talking out of their ass, it seems. What does this have to do with kespa? As you said yourself I guess, think before you post something stupid. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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BBMorti
Denmark242 Posts
On July 14 2012 10:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: wow you guys are mad because i said something you don't like lol. I find korean commentators to be superior yes, but don't act like I tried to assert that belief onto you so you don't need to get all that defensive. You presented it as a general statement, not an opinion. "Meh, korean casters are far better to listen to even if you don't understand them." Superior how, anyways? It is obviously not in game knowledge since you dont understand a word they are saying.. you prefer to listen to higher/more eager yelling? I honestly ponder on how all the old BW fans concluded they simply are better.. love (for the game) makes blind they say. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On July 14 2012 10:27 BBMorti wrote: You presented it as a general statement, not an opinion. "Meh, korean casters are far better to listen to even if you don't understand them." Superior how, anyways? It is obviously not in game knowledge since you dont understand a word they are saying.. you prefer to listen to higher/more eager yelling? I honestly ponder on how all the old BW fans concluded they simply are better.. love (for the game) makes blind they say. Chill. It's just an opinion. The bw boys prefer korean commentary because it's what they have listened to for the past decade. Obviously the sc2 guys will prefer english commentary (or perhaps they may enjoy korean too) because sc2 started out having english commentary | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51544 Posts
On July 14 2012 10:27 BBMorti wrote: You presented it as a general statement, not an opinion. "Meh, korean casters are far better to listen to even if you don't understand them." Superior how, anyways? It is obviously not in game knowledge since you dont understand a word they are saying.. you prefer to listen to higher/more eager yelling? I honestly ponder on how all the old BW fans concluded they simply are better.. love (for the game) makes blind they say. English casting is great, but when you already have an understanding( I'm no expert but I know whats going on) towards a game a lot of things that are spoken in a cast will seem repetitive and i'm not saying thats bad, well these someone new watching every day, but then whats left? English casters rarely get me excited, their jokes are good but thats it....Korean casters give me that feeling of pure hype and excitement, and I know they're knowledgeable thanks to subbed games and translations. | ||
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