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Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
July 10 2012 23:40 GMT
#761
On July 11 2012 08:34 Wroshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 08:31 SolvusAnima wrote:
On July 11 2012 08:03 Serinox wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:46 Chenz wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:44 Dexington wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:43 Chenz wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:37 Florix wrote:
so he was cheating at esl.eu o_O

http://www.esl.eu/de/player/2682418/

If this is true, I really hope he wont qualify for TSL. Major leagues and tournaments should cooperate to ban cheaters from all events, there really should be a zero-tolerance policy against cheaters.


Different game

Honestly, I don't care. You cheat in any game on a professional level, you don't belong in esports at all.

Nothing that should be discussed in this thread though, sorry for bringing it up.


Well say goodbye to TT1, ToD, HayprO and LastShadow then.


Curious. What did ToD do? O_o

ToD had a past in WC3 aliasing for other players in clan wars.

I honestly feel that bans across games is something we have to be very careful with. Even though cheating is very bad we should also not take the possibility away from them to have a second chance. Only in very severe cases (saviOr comes to mind) should we take away that chance.

Absolutely agree every player should get a second chance. However if a player within for example a month switches to another game the ban should also be upheld there. That's also why a ban should be reasonable and not lifelong for a first offence. That's also not the case in "normal" sports.
Life is to give and take. You take a vacation and you give to the poor.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 10 2012 23:40 GMT
#762
On July 11 2012 08:37 Dexington wrote:
If elfi wins, Lalush qualifies as a certainty, because then there will only be 6 people who can pass him simultaneously, putting him at either 8th or tied for 7th.

If elfi doesn't win, Lalush could still lose out in a three or four way tie for the last few spots.

Am I right in assuming that BabyKnight is already confirmed on points now that he has 222?
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
July 10 2012 23:41 GMT
#763
On July 11 2012 08:36 Sabu113 wrote:
How do you scout for this? You need something out before that first stalker. Or is it more that you must spend 150 more minerals on a cannon or a gateway that will die when you push out?

Haven't watched too too much lately so trying to figure out why this isnt a little more common.


Send a zealot out to try to check the drone count. probes can't get past the queen to see gas anymore, but zealots can get the info you need.

don't skip sentries. or build a real wall.
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
July 10 2012 23:43 GMT
#764
gg elfi?
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 10 2012 23:43 GMT
#765
wow, this might be the sickest mindgame of the evening.
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 10 2012 23:44 GMT
#766
Roof can't hold this...
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 23:45:43
July 10 2012 23:44 GMT
#767
This is why you disable close spawns :p. Roof not knowing you can spawn vertical seems like an excuse, why would they disable vertical and keep close?
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 10 2012 23:45 GMT
#768
oh well that was fast
I've got moves like Jagger
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 10 2012 23:45 GMT
#769
On July 11 2012 08:44 ZAiNs wrote:
This is why you disable close spawns :p.

Actually this is why you read the tournament rules and google the translations for vertical and horizontal if you don't know what it means.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 10 2012 23:45 GMT
#770
On July 11 2012 08:44 ZAiNs wrote:
This is why you disable close spawns :p.


Because of warpgates?
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
July 10 2012 23:45 GMT
#771
seriously? wtf...thats realy bad, sad for roof
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
July 10 2012 23:45 GMT
#772
Anti-climactic ending.. But I loved roof's play, it was certainly his own and very unique, at the same time elfi was just too good, so I'm looking forward to seeing more of those players!
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 23:46:51
July 10 2012 23:45 GMT
#773
On July 11 2012 08:45 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 08:44 ZAiNs wrote:
This is why you disable close spawns :p.


Because of warpgates?

Because of scouting. Basically if close spawns were disabled Roof would have scouted Elfi and saw what was going on. Close spawns probably were disabled, but Roof didn't think they were so I just assumed they weren't.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 10 2012 23:46 GMT
#774
Well done elfi

Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
July 10 2012 23:46 GMT
#775
On July 11 2012 08:44 ZAiNs wrote:
This is why you disable close spawns :p. Roof not knowing you can spawn vertical seems like an excuse, why would they disable vertical and keep close?


That isnt the crappy spawn in that map. Its always non horizontal Spawns but rarely forced cross spawn.
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 10 2012 23:46 GMT
#776
Congratulations Elfi and Roof too for reaching the finals. Another Protoss joins the fray.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
July 10 2012 23:47 GMT
#777
God, it's lame to see that Roof can't handle a fight against elfi, he just always try to basetrade :/
Anyway, I don't understand how did he managed to reach finals, his play was very poorly.

PS : oh god, the stream chat is so full of trash it's incredible, constant whine of "X OP", flame on day9, etc...seriously, all you guys flaming like you're doin', shame on you ;_;
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 10 2012 23:48 GMT
#778
BabyKnight and Lalush are also qualified after this results. Congrats.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 10 2012 23:48 GMT
#779
On July 11 2012 08:47 Sakray wrote:
God, it's lame to see that Roof can't handle a fight against elfi, he just always try to basetrade :/
Anyway, I don't understand how did he managed to reach finals, his play was very poorly.

PS : oh god, the stream chat is so full of trash it's incredible, constant whine of "X OP", flame on day9, etc...seriously, all you guys flaming like you're doin', shame on you ;_;

Just so I know, when did you ever find a twitch tv chat that isn't filled with idiots?
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
July 10 2012 23:48 GMT
#780
So in this qualifier, elfi, BabyKnight and LaLush all qualify!
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
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