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[TSL4] Qualifier 13 - EU/NA #9 - Page 38

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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 23:34:46
July 10 2012 23:27 GMT
#741
not sure if more cynical or day9's enthusiasm feels poorly forced. I was a fan of day9/husky at the last MLG (awhile back now I suppose) but these TSL4 quals have been painful for me to listen. Hmm..

gg elfi~
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
July 10 2012 23:27 GMT
#742
"I am Day9, Holy Shit!" hahaha gotta love day9 :D!
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
July 10 2012 23:27 GMT
#743
On July 11 2012 08:26 Jarree wrote:
Haha when did pvz become this good and entertaining


Since Zerg screwed up upgrades and made some huge mistakes
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
July 10 2012 23:28 GMT
#744
On July 11 2012 08:27 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 08:26 Jarree wrote:
Haha when did pvz become this good and entertaining


Since Zerg screwed up upgrades and made some huge mistakes

Even so, i'll take this any day rather than bl-infestor sitting over spines
chrissummers
Profile Joined March 2011
243 Posts
July 10 2012 23:29 GMT
#745
great. cant even watch this on the couch cause day9 screams so loud and unnecessary everybody would wake up.

yea i like passionate casts, but screaming is not needed, look at artosis...
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 10 2012 23:29 GMT
#746
Archons dont give a damn about banelings
I've got moves like Jagger
Jebediah
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany106 Posts
July 10 2012 23:29 GMT
#747
On July 11 2012 08:27 morlakaix wrote:
that was was way too close considering it was 3/3ground for toss and 1-1 for Z...


It was 3-0 for Elfi, not 3-3, iirc.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
July 10 2012 23:29 GMT
#748
On July 11 2012 08:27 crms wrote:
not sure if more cynical or day9's enthusiasm feels poorly forced. I was a fan of day9/husky at the last MLG (awhile back now I suppose) but there TSL4 quals have been painful for me to listen. Hmm..

gg elfi~

Yeah he is giving the player a bit too much credit/praise every time they do the right thing.
why even
Golden Ghost
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands1041 Posts
July 10 2012 23:29 GMT
#749
On July 11 2012 08:12 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 08:10 pepe08 wrote:
On July 11 2012 08:03 Serinox wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:46 Chenz wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:44 Dexington wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:43 Chenz wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:37 Florix wrote:
so he was cheating at esl.eu o_O

http://www.esl.eu/de/player/2682418/

If this is true, I really hope he wont qualify for TSL. Major leagues and tournaments should cooperate to ban cheaters from all events, there really should be a zero-tolerance policy against cheaters.


Different game

Honestly, I don't care. You cheat in any game on a professional level, you don't belong in esports at all.

Nothing that should be discussed in this thread though, sorry for bringing it up.


Well say goodbye to TT1, ToD, HayprO and LastShadow then.


wasn't dimaga banned from tsl3 for some reason aswell?
/but back to game, dosn't look to good for roof


no hacking, different reason.


Not only Dimaga but also Fraer, HappyZerg and quite a few other well known players at the time.
However most of them were not maphacking or things like that but (and keep in ind TSL qualifiers were played on a ladder back then) cheating in the way of playing against one single opponent more times as allowed within the timeframe. So no maphack or something like that for most of them. They "just" cheated to obtain more points on the ladder in the last couple hours to finish in the top spots for qualifications.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108352
Life is to give and take. You take a vacation and you give to the poor.
SolvusAnima
Profile Joined July 2010
United States138 Posts
July 10 2012 23:31 GMT
#750
On July 11 2012 08:03 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 07:46 Chenz wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:44 Dexington wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:43 Chenz wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:37 Florix wrote:
so he was cheating at esl.eu o_O

http://www.esl.eu/de/player/2682418/

If this is true, I really hope he wont qualify for TSL. Major leagues and tournaments should cooperate to ban cheaters from all events, there really should be a zero-tolerance policy against cheaters.


Different game

Honestly, I don't care. You cheat in any game on a professional level, you don't belong in esports at all.

Nothing that should be discussed in this thread though, sorry for bringing it up.


Well say goodbye to TT1, ToD, HayprO and LastShadow then.


Curious. What did ToD do? O_o
Since we cannot change reality, let us change the eyes which see reality.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
July 10 2012 23:33 GMT
#751
On July 11 2012 08:29 Golden Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 08:12 StarVe wrote:
On July 11 2012 08:10 pepe08 wrote:
On July 11 2012 08:03 Serinox wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:46 Chenz wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:44 Dexington wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:43 Chenz wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:37 Florix wrote:
so he was cheating at esl.eu o_O

http://www.esl.eu/de/player/2682418/

If this is true, I really hope he wont qualify for TSL. Major leagues and tournaments should cooperate to ban cheaters from all events, there really should be a zero-tolerance policy against cheaters.


Different game

Honestly, I don't care. You cheat in any game on a professional level, you don't belong in esports at all.

Nothing that should be discussed in this thread though, sorry for bringing it up.


Well say goodbye to TT1, ToD, HayprO and LastShadow then.


wasn't dimaga banned from tsl3 for some reason aswell?
/but back to game, dosn't look to good for roof


no hacking, different reason.


Not only Dimaga but also Fraer, HappyZerg and quite a few other well known players at the time.
However most of them were not maphacking or things like that but (and keep in ind TSL qualifiers were played on a ladder back then) cheating in the way of playing against one single opponent more times as allowed within the timeframe. So no maphack or something like that for most of them. They "just" cheated to obtain more points on the ladder in the last couple hours to finish in the top spots for qualifications.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=108352

Not to be too off topic, but does that mean Spades is banned for life from the TSL?
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 10 2012 23:34 GMT
#752
It's a shame we have the choice between a subpar zerg and a PvP ace for TSL4.

I'll vote against both of you heretics !
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 10 2012 23:34 GMT
#753
On July 11 2012 08:27 crms wrote:
not sure if more cynical or day9's enthusiasm feels poorly forced. I was a fan of day9/husky at the last MLG (awhile back now I suppose) but there TSL4 quals have been painful for me to listen. Hmm..

gg elfi~


I agree. He is overreacting a lot. His casting is way different from live events.
I've got moves like Jagger
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 10 2012 23:34 GMT
#754
On July 11 2012 08:31 SolvusAnima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 08:03 Serinox wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:46 Chenz wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:44 Dexington wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:43 Chenz wrote:
On July 11 2012 07:37 Florix wrote:
so he was cheating at esl.eu o_O

http://www.esl.eu/de/player/2682418/

If this is true, I really hope he wont qualify for TSL. Major leagues and tournaments should cooperate to ban cheaters from all events, there really should be a zero-tolerance policy against cheaters.


Different game

Honestly, I don't care. You cheat in any game on a professional level, you don't belong in esports at all.

Nothing that should be discussed in this thread though, sorry for bringing it up.


Well say goodbye to TT1, ToD, HayprO and LastShadow then.


Curious. What did ToD do? O_o

ToD had a past in WC3 aliasing for other players in clan wars.

I honestly feel that bans across games is something we have to be very careful with. Even though cheating is very bad we should also not take the possibility away from them to have a second chance. Only in very severe cases (saviOr comes to mind) should we take away that chance.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11087 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 23:36:53
July 10 2012 23:36 GMT
#755
How do you scout for this? You need something out before that first stalker. Or is it more that you must spend 150 more minerals on a cannon or a gateway that will die when you push out?

Haven't watched too too much lately so trying to figure out why this isnt a little more common.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
July 10 2012 23:36 GMT
#756
It seems like Roof likes fast games in Cloud KIngdom. I can understand that...
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 10 2012 23:37 GMT
#757
On July 11 2012 08:36 Sabu113 wrote:
How do you scout for this? You need something out before that first stalker. Or is it more that you must spend 150 more minerals on a cannon or a gateway that will die when you push out?

Haven't watched too too much lately so trying to figure out why this isnt a little more common.


Sentries are a pretty hard counter to it is why and then building wall off with sentry makes it hard.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
July 10 2012 23:37 GMT
#758
If elfi wins, Lalush qualifies as a certainty, because then there will only be 6 people who can pass him simultaneously, putting him at either 8th or tied for 7th.

If elfi doesn't win, Lalush could still lose out in a three or four way tie for the last few spots.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 10 2012 23:38 GMT
#759
On July 11 2012 08:36 Sabu113 wrote:
How do you scout for this? You need something out before that first stalker. Or is it more that you must spend 150 more minerals on a cannon or a gateway that will die when you push out?

Haven't watched too too much lately so trying to figure out why this isnt a little more common.


This time toss didn't even see the third base, just saw his pylon destroyed. So it's just zergs punishing greedy tosses on this map atm. He knew that zerg could be on two bases and pull off a number of all-ins, but he didn't wall in or make sentries.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11087 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 23:40:46
July 10 2012 23:39 GMT
#760
On July 11 2012 08:37 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 08:36 Sabu113 wrote:
How do you scout for this? You need something out before that first stalker. Or is it more that you must spend 150 more minerals on a cannon or a gateway that will die when you push out?

Haven't watched too too much lately so trying to figure out why this isnt a little more common.


Sentries are a pretty hard counter to it is why and then building wall off with sentry makes it hard.


I thought you have 1 sentry, you drop in on your pylon side then you have 20 sec until it goes so you need to have started another sentry going in order to have more cannons up if you build a cannon the instant you put down the ff.

edit: Not complaining. I'm trying to logic why we don't see it more often. I think it's very strong as only a probe scout could check for this and it seems like intelligently positioned lings should prevent that.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
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