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jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
July 06 2012 21:44 GMT
#3721
Mana going full Korean on the commentary
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
July 06 2012 21:45 GMT
#3722
Went afk, came back to see MVP going full magikarp LOL.
yiNyO
Profile Joined February 2011
132 Posts
July 06 2012 21:45 GMT
#3723
mana casting like a boss
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
July 06 2012 21:45 GMT
#3724
Is Mvp out now?
"NO" -Has
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
July 06 2012 21:45 GMT
#3725
Sorry I just tuned in and have a question. Stream quality seems pretty bad, even on 720+ ... looks like the free gomtv stream. Is this normal? Anything I can do about it?
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 21:45 GMT
#3726
On July 07 2012 06:45 kyllinghest wrote:
Is Mvp out now?


He hasn't lost the game yet, so no.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
July 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#3727
On July 07 2012 06:44 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:43 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:43 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:42 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:40 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:40 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:39 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:38 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:37 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:37 Iyerbeth wrote:
[quote]

2nd Rax for MVP.
Nexus fof NightEnD. 2nd gas for NightEnD.


1 Reactor Rax 1 Tech Lab Rax. Factory started and Stim too.
Bunker at natural for MVP.
Tech Lab on Factory.


Robo for NightEnD and 2 more gas.
I assume Siege Mode is researching but can't see on the cast.


MVP moves out with Marine and Siege Tank army.
Robo Bay started, but when the army is seen it's cancelled and replaced with Gates.
Immortals incoming.


MVP just moved back and took third without engaging.
NightEnD chrono'ing Zealot charge and starting Templar Archives.


NightEnD moves across the map and sees the third but can't engage it and falls back with FFs.


3rd base coming for NightEnD.
Finally production tab is back!
NightEnD spots a drop and doesn't quite get the kill, but could have with Feedback according to casters.
Storm finished too.
MVP adding bunkers to third, NightEnD nearby.


Huge Storms at the third of MVP but Siege Tanks hold the line.


Moves in again, all Storms hitting really well, and MVP forced back to the bunkers.
Quite a bit of damage on both sides.
MVP pursues NightEnD but FFs prevent the chase.
No Conc Shells yet.


Ghost production and upgrades coming for MVp.
Robo Bay and 2nd Robo coming for nightEnD.


MVP upon seeing the army outside his third moves it away without a fight.
A lot of Storms in the army of NightEnD available and Colossus incoming - no vikings on the map.
MVP catches NightEnDs army without the HTs and gets a few Sentry kills in the middle.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
Eralur
Profile Joined June 2012
58 Posts
July 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#3728
whos the guy shouting like crazy?
Stick with the Prod
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#3729
MVP mouth open, beast mode engaged.
Moderator
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#3730
MC: "Why here base?"

Good point, good point
gape.ninja
Profile Joined April 2011
Japan249 Posts
July 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#3731
Man MVP just doesn't look right today even if he does take this game
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
July 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#3732
On July 07 2012 06:44 Gladiator333 wrote:
Youngwha's lategame is truly impressive, both PvZ and PvT. But can't understand how DBS could lose this, that drop when he should just stim and a-attack instead! Wp wp Youngwha!


Yeah, I'm pretty sure an A-move towards the third would have won him the game.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
July 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#3733
Well switching over Nightend Mvp now. If he cannot win when he is that far ahead I guess he has 0.01% to win the next game.

"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 21:47:46
July 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#3734
On July 07 2012 06:37 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:34 TheBB wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:24 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:21 TheBB wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:17 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:12 TheBB wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:05 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:59 Zane wrote:
[quote]
Just like they accepted before GSL October. Or before last GSL.


Win one GSL and suddenly you're the best player in the world. Good logic. I remember when the thread monsters were slobbering all over Jjakji because of one fantastic run. Where did his other championships go?

No, win 4 GSLs and you're the best player. That's the point, just because he doesn't win every single tournament he enters doesn't mean he's suddenly not the best player anymore.


He isn't the best player anykmore because he cannot consistently beat everybody else, which is what the best player does. Honestly it's embarrassing when people just call x or y the best player, do they understand how utterly dominant you must be to be considered for the title? Mvp doesn't possess that dominance anymore.

I don't think this holds. At any one time, someone must be best (by definition), even if we can't clearly tell who. However, it is not given that at any one time someone must necessarily dominate everyone else. Whatever happened to the first-among-equals situation?


That's a false assumption. "Being the best" is a judgment call created by people based on outside evidence, not some intuitive ranking system that naturally exists. If there is no sustainable argument for any single individual then nobody occupies that position. Right now anyone can trash anyone in the KR scene and they are doing it on a regular basis.

But there is an objective ranking system. Let's say a hypothetical N-round robin involving every player played under identical and simultaneous conditions. Of course this is not realisable, but that's not a problem. I put it to you that as N goes to infinity, the winner of such a hypothetical tournament will be stable, e.g. P(this player winning) will approach 1 as N grows.


That doesn't still prove anything since part of labeling someone "the best player" is succeeding despite circumstances.

Prove what? I'm not trying to prove anything.

I also disagree with this labeling. Best simply means best. Not dominant, not succeeding under these or those circumstances, simply best on average, period, end of story.


You said that the hypothetical situation could identify the best player in the world by placing everyone under identical and simultaneous conditions. My objection is that such a situation would only prove who is the best player in the world under those conditions.

You disagree with my assertion yet agree with it immediately afterwards. I don't get it.

Why would you need to qualify "best" according to conditions? I think they are self-evident: room temperature, quiet, equipment and set-up according to personal preference, zero lag, both players awake and alert. Did I forget something? Of course the best player under subzero temperatures and howling blizzard might conceivably be someone else, but I don't think that's very relevant. Instead I would introduce a matchup parameter, if anything.

*shrugs*
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#3735
wow MVP derping his ghosts into nightends army
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
July 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#3736
On July 07 2012 06:46 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:44 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:43 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:43 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:42 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:40 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:40 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:39 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:38 Iyerbeth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:37 Iyerbeth wrote:
[quote]

1 Reactor Rax 1 Tech Lab Rax. Factory started and Stim too.
Bunker at natural for MVP.
Tech Lab on Factory.


Robo for NightEnD and 2 more gas.
I assume Siege Mode is researching but can't see on the cast.


MVP moves out with Marine and Siege Tank army.
Robo Bay started, but when the army is seen it's cancelled and replaced with Gates.
Immortals incoming.


MVP just moved back and took third without engaging.
NightEnD chrono'ing Zealot charge and starting Templar Archives.


NightEnD moves across the map and sees the third but can't engage it and falls back with FFs.


3rd base coming for NightEnD.
Finally production tab is back!
NightEnD spots a drop and doesn't quite get the kill, but could have with Feedback according to casters.
Storm finished too.
MVP adding bunkers to third, NightEnD nearby.


Huge Storms at the third of MVP but Siege Tanks hold the line.


Moves in again, all Storms hitting really well, and MVP forced back to the bunkers.
Quite a bit of damage on both sides.
MVP pursues NightEnD but FFs prevent the chase.
No Conc Shells yet.


Ghost production and upgrades coming for MVp.
Robo Bay and 2nd Robo coming for nightEnD.


MVP upon seeing the army outside his third moves it away without a fight.
A lot of Storms in the army of NightEnD available and Colossus incoming - no vikings on the map.
MVP catches NightEnDs army without the HTs and gets a few Sentry kills in the middle.


MVP tries to push the third but HTs push him back.
Ghosts get good EMPs but also die.
Both maxed and pull away.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#3737
Uuuuuuuuuuuuugh, awful ghost control there :<
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
July 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#3738
Very nice control by DBS
Moriarty
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom286 Posts
July 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#3739
Jesus give someone else Obs, this is horrible to watch. Motion sickness.
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 21:48:09
July 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#3740
I have no idea how mvp can play like :O feels like breathing would be more difficult
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