This thread will be updated with other information between now and the event taking place, so make sure to check back.
SC2 WCS France Nationals 5th - 8th of July 2012 The 2012 StarCraft II World Championship Series: France Nationals will be the next stop after the UK on the road to the WCS Europe Finals and will be held in Paris, France from July the 5th to 8th, 2012. It will feature 16 players with a prize pool of around $15,000 and seeds to the 2012 WCS Europe Final later this year.
1st, 2nd and 3rd place will qualify onward aside from Prize pool to participate in the WCS Europe Final.
On June 27 2012 22:09 opterown wrote: ooOOO stephano seems the overwhelming favourite here
There are 9 zergs and some are not bad at all ( Kenzy, Minimath, Bsk , Eeel , Moman ) so Stephano , even favourite, can easily lose some zvz here still he is not confident in this match up.
Edit : ToD didnt try because it's the same date as HSC i think.
On July 02 2012 02:32 McKTenor13 wrote: Oh I'm excited for this. It's Stephano's tournament to lose. I'd like to see how some of the other french players do.
Upsets would be appreciated I think : D Despite being a fan of Stephano's play, every WCS thus far has had some nice upsets, why break the trend now !
Adelscott should stay out, but he doesnt Dayshi pretty awesome terran Note that EVERYONE else besides Push and gato (i dont know about those 2) are at least top master or GM.
On July 02 2012 02:36 KalWarkov wrote: stephano clear favorite.
After that there are many even players imo:
Adelscott should stay out, but he doesnt Dayshi pretty awesome terran Note that EVERYONE else besides Push and gato (i dont know about those 2) are at least top master or GM.
Gato's new nick is "FireCake" ! Maybe you know this one ?
On July 02 2012 02:36 KalWarkov wrote: stephano clear favorite.
After that there are many even players imo:
Adelscott should stay out, but he doesnt Dayshi pretty awesome terran Note that EVERYONE else besides Push and gato (i dont know about those 2) are at least top master or GM.
Gato's new nick is "FireCake" ! Maybe you know this one ?
yep, i know firecake hes pretty high up there in gm, but hes pretty cheesy as well
On July 02 2012 02:32 McKTenor13 wrote: Oh I'm excited for this. It's Stephano's tournament to lose. I'd like to see how some of the other french players do.
Upsets would be appreciated I think : D Despite being a fan of Stephano's play, every WCS thus far has had some nice upsets, why break the trend now !
The only serious possibility would be 2 lucky ZvZ all-ins. Aside from that, nobody is at his level in France right now. If he loses, it'd going to be a shitstorm I can guarantee that.
On July 02 2012 02:32 McKTenor13 wrote: Oh I'm excited for this. It's Stephano's tournament to lose. I'd like to see how some of the other french players do.
Upsets would be appreciated I think : D Despite being a fan of Stephano's play, every WCS thus far has had some nice upsets, why break the trend now !
The only serious possibility would be 2 lucky ZvZ all-ins. Aside from that, nobody is at his level in France right now. If he loses, it'd going to be a shitstorm I can guarantee that.
Adelscott has sick PvZ. He beat Dimaga, Livezerg, violet, Bly, Morrow in the past months. Ofc Stephano is still well favored against him, but I wouldnt count him out.
On July 02 2012 02:32 McKTenor13 wrote: Oh I'm excited for this. It's Stephano's tournament to lose. I'd like to see how some of the other french players do.
Upsets would be appreciated I think : D Despite being a fan of Stephano's play, every WCS thus far has had some nice upsets, why break the trend now !
The only serious possibility would be 2 lucky ZvZ all-ins. Aside from that, nobody is at his level in France right now. If he loses, it'd going to be a shitstorm I can guarantee that.
Adelscott has sick PvZ. He beat Dimaga, Livezerg, violet, Bly, Morrow in the past months. Ofc Stephano is still well favored against him, but I wouldnt count him out.
They played each others in the final of the qualifier that Stephano won. They didn't play for a long time, because Stephano was in USA for several weeks :
Stephano : "Still 1 gate expo 5 sentry push?" Adel : "No ! I change all my build" Stephano : "Really?"
Adel was right, it was in fact a 1 gate expo 6 sentry push ^^, destroyed by Stephano. He knows Adel perfectly, i don't see him lose to Adel, nor any other protoss or terran in this list.
On July 02 2012 02:32 McKTenor13 wrote: Oh I'm excited for this. It's Stephano's tournament to lose. I'd like to see how some of the other french players do.
Upsets would be appreciated I think : D Despite being a fan of Stephano's play, every WCS thus far has had some nice upsets, why break the trend now !
The only serious possibility would be 2 lucky ZvZ all-ins. Aside from that, nobody is at his level in France right now. If he loses, it'd going to be a shitstorm I can guarantee that.
Adelscott has sick PvZ. He beat Dimaga, Livezerg, violet, Bly, Morrow in the past months. Ofc Stephano is still well favored against him, but I wouldnt count him out.
They played each others in the final of the qualifier that Stephano won. They didn't play for a long time, because Stephano was in USA for several weeks :
Stephano : "Still 1 gate expo 5 sentry push?" Adel : "No ! I change all my build" Stephano : "Really?"
Adel was right, it was in fact a 1 gate expo 6 sentry push ^^, destroyed by Stephano. He knows Adel perfectly, i don't see him lose to Adel, nor any other protoss or terran in this list.
ZvZ is, imho, the only match up he could loose.
this game was epic and trully shown how stephano is above the whole french scene :o
On July 02 2012 02:32 McKTenor13 wrote: Oh I'm excited for this. It's Stephano's tournament to lose. I'd like to see how some of the other french players do.
Upsets would be appreciated I think : D Despite being a fan of Stephano's play, every WCS thus far has had some nice upsets, why break the trend now !
The only serious possibility would be 2 lucky ZvZ all-ins. Aside from that, nobody is at his level in France right now. If he loses, it'd going to be a shitstorm I can guarantee that.
Adelscott has sick PvZ. He beat Dimaga, Livezerg, violet, Bly, Morrow in the past months. Ofc Stephano is still well favored against him, but I wouldnt count him out.
They played each others in the final of the qualifier that Stephano won. They didn't play for a long time, because Stephano was in USA for several weeks :
Stephano : "Still 1 gate expo 5 sentry push?" Adel : "No ! I change all my build" Stephano : "Really?"
Adel was right, it was in fact a 1 gate expo 6 sentry push ^^, destroyed by Stephano. He knows Adel perfectly, i don't see him lose to Adel, nor any other protoss or terran in this list.
ZvZ is, imho, the only match up he could loose.
this game was epic and trully shown how stephano is above the whole french scene :o
I had a lot of fun casting it indeed! meet you guys there (I'll arrive on Friday)
On July 04 2012 22:53 opterown wrote: wow didn't realise so few terrans
Yeah was expecting to see guys like AureS and Sarens make it to the finals, but the open qualification format (16 qualifiers, with only the winner qualifying) caused quite a few upsets
Yeah the problem with Moman lately is that he's not been focused on SC2... ...But he managed to earn his spot nonetheless, so who knows how well he'll do
On July 05 2012 16:17 endy wrote: Where are all the old BW guys ? Sarens, Tuzer, Aures ? Not that I like them, but I expected to see them participating nonetheless.
Stephano has this for sure. He's the new Elky.
Also, Push is back ?
I think Tuzer dont play anymore, for some reason Sarens didnt try, it seems he is more Eclypsia coach than a player, Aures just didnt manage to qualify despite he is talented, but bo1, many zerg and a lot of upcoming new talented french player was too much for him.
On July 05 2012 16:17 endy wrote: Where are all the old BW guys ? Sarens, Tuzer, Aures ? Not that I like them, but I expected to see them participating nonetheless.
On July 05 2012 18:11 Shellshock1122 wrote: would be hard to see anyone beating stephano
People sayd the same thing about Holland in the European cup. Thats the cool thing about sc2 and football there is allways upsets:D Personaly i think he could lose a ZvZ since he is abit weak in that matchup
On July 05 2012 19:51 Psyclon wrote: Btw, i'm not sure it's such a good idea to show every match and spread the event over 4 days. Why did they decide to do this?
I guess because it's during a big event in France named "japan expo and comicon" with a lot of stuff and they have to keep their stand open during all event and spread some game everyday , but, yes, it's a bad idea =)
On July 05 2012 19:51 Psyclon wrote: Btw, i'm not sure it's such a good idea to show every match and spread the event over 4 days. Why did they decide to do this?
Hm not sure but it may have some advantages
- because they can - every player gets his deserved exposure - more audience because you can easier watch this tournament plus others (GSL, TSL, HSC) and pick your favorite games. - more days, more party
I think the main reason is that the WCS France take place in a big convention : The Japan expo which last 4 days. So everyday new visitors will see the WCS even if they don't know what eSport is. So more people will see the stage and discover the competition and so on
On July 05 2012 19:51 Psyclon wrote: Btw, i'm not sure it's such a good idea to show every match and spread the event over 4 days. Why did they decide to do this?
Hm not sure but it may have some advantages
- because they can - every player gets his deserved exposure - more audience because you can easier watch this tournament plus others (GSL, TSL, HSC) and pick your favorite games. - more days, more party
stephano and adel should do this pretty easy 3rd place is a closer call, honestly stephano just overshine everyone SO much that everyone else looks bad
On July 05 2012 20:35 NeonFox wrote: Typical Stephano defence, not a single drone lost.
8 is not "not a single"
We are not watching the same game? Kaelaris showed the drones lost tab.
I was watching the french stream , no drone kill during the attack but english caster probably miss the 2 banlings morphing in main base and kill 8 drones
On July 05 2012 20:35 NeonFox wrote: Typical Stephano defence, not a single drone lost.
8 is not "not a single"
We are not watching the same game? Kaelaris showed the drones lost tab.
I was watching the french stream , no drone kill during the attack but english caster probably miss the 2 banlings morphing in main base and kill 8 drones
Stephano manage to recover is drone count by better macro than Minimath but Minimath is probably one of the worst zerg here, it's not a good news when he will face Bsk/Kenzy/Eeel etc who are far better I think.
On July 05 2012 20:40 Vira wrote: Stephano manage to recover is drone count by better macro than Minimath but Minimath is probably one of the worst zerg here, it's not a good news when he will face Bsk/Kenzy/Eeel etc who are far better I think.
He did beat Violet and Nerchio recently, we'll see! I agree he seems on the line a lot in ZvZ, winning very closely.
Is there a schedule for this? How many rounds are being played today? Are they playing the second round today? When are they playing the loser's bracket first round?
On July 05 2012 21:34 revel8 wrote: Is there a schedule for this? How many rounds are being played today? Are they playing the second round today? When are they playing the loser's bracket first round?
On July 05 2012 21:34 revel8 wrote: Is there a schedule for this? How many rounds are being played today? Are they playing the second round today? When are they playing the loser's bracket first round?
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
Dayshi 80th GM, Bsk 150th GM
Surely you know better
Hmm, oddly enough, a few Frenchies has the same question when watching the WCS UK. Turnabout's fair play and all that. Otolia and the rest of the arrogant masses can't call the UK a shitty amateur scene when there are players like this representing france. Dayshi's even supposed to be among the better ones.
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
Dayshi 80th GM, Bsk 150th GM
Surely you know better
Hmm, oddly enough, a few Frenchies has the same question when watching the WCS UK. Turnabout's fair play and all that. Otolia and the rest of the arrogant masses can't call the UK a shitty amateur scene when there are players like this representing france. Dayshi's even supposed to be among the better ones.
You claim everyone is bad, but we are the arrogant ones
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
Dayshi 80th GM, Bsk 150th GM
Surely you know better
Hmm, oddly enough, a few Frenchies has the same question when watching the WCS UK. Turnabout's fair play and all that. Otolia and the rest of the arrogant masses can't call the UK a shitty amateur scene when there are players like this representing france. Dayshi's even supposed to be among the better ones.
If you weren't as narrow minded as you are, you might have asked me why I thought the french amateur scene was a good one. And I would have answered you that there are more infrastructures as well as separate initiative from casters, upcoming teams and tournaments.
Will that pay off immediately ? Maybe, maybe not. Will that pay off in the long term ? Absolutely. As such the french amateur scene is currently superior to the UK, because the scene is not only the players but also the environment they grow in.
As for the quality of games, aside from JonnyREcco, Ziktomini and DeMusliM, none of the englishmen objectively shined through the WCS UK tournament.
PS : The fact that you are still mad about what I said is really sad.
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
Dayshi 80th GM, Bsk 150th GM
Surely you know better
Hmm, oddly enough, a few Frenchies has the same question when watching the WCS UK. Turnabout's fair play and all that. Otolia and the rest of the arrogant masses can't call the UK a shitty amateur scene when there are players like this representing france. Dayshi's even supposed to be among the better ones.
Otolia speaks for Otolia, not for all the french. Avoid generalisations plz.
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
Dayshi 80th GM, Bsk 150th GM
Surely you know better
Hmm, oddly enough, a few Frenchies has the same question when watching the WCS UK. Turnabout's fair play and all that. Otolia and the rest of the arrogant masses can't call the UK a shitty amateur scene when there are players like this representing france. Dayshi's even supposed to be among the better ones.
You claim everyone is bad, but we are the arrogant ones
Those players represent nobody but themselves
Lastly, Stephano
Nope, I just called Bsk bad, and Dayshi was playing mediocre. And congrats on Stephano, as he is a professional, I fail to see how it has anything to do with the amateur scene. And yes, they are representing themselves, but they also represent the amateur scene in France, vying for a spot in the WCS for Europe. Those games were hardly decent, and if the WCS UK was snidely dismissed for producing a poor amateur scene, what is this?
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
Dayshi 80th GM, Bsk 150th GM
Surely you know better
Hmm, oddly enough, a few Frenchies has the same question when watching the WCS UK. Turnabout's fair play and all that. Otolia and the rest of the arrogant masses can't call the UK a shitty amateur scene when there are players like this representing france. Dayshi's even supposed to be among the better ones.
You claim everyone is bad, but we are the arrogant ones
Those players represent nobody but themselves
Lastly, Stephano
Nope, I just called Bsk bad, and Dayshi was playing mediocre. And congrats on Stephano, as he is a professional, I fail to see how it has anything to do with the amateur scene. And yes, they are representing themselves, but they also represent the amateur scene in France, vying for a spot in the WCS for Europe. Those games were hardly decent, and if the WCS UK was snidely dismissed for producing a poor amateur scene, what is this?
It's a troll show produced to make english haters rage
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
Are you going to be mean, disrespectful and a Dick during the whole tournament? Please stop posting and let people enjoy the matchs.
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
Dayshi 80th GM, Bsk 150th GM
Surely you know better
Hmm, oddly enough, a few Frenchies has the same question when watching the WCS UK. Turnabout's fair play and all that. Otolia and the rest of the arrogant masses can't call the UK a shitty amateur scene when there are players like this representing france. Dayshi's even supposed to be among the better ones.
You claim everyone is bad, but we are the arrogant ones
Those players represent nobody but themselves
Lastly, Stephano
Nope, I just called Bsk bad, and Dayshi was playing mediocre. And congrats on Stephano, as he is a professional, I fail to see how it has anything to do with the amateur scene. And yes, they are representing themselves, but they also represent the amateur scene in France, vying for a spot in the WCS for Europe. Those games were hardly decent, and if the WCS UK was snidely dismissed for producing a poor amateur scene, what is this?
From what I seen between the HSC games the french players seems to be higher skill lvl then there english counterparts
On July 06 2012 21:31 Falconblade wrote: Those nukes were so poorly handled. Really bsk, that's just terrible. What are the leagues of these players? Bsk can't be masters.
Dayshi 80th GM, Bsk 150th GM
Surely you know better
Hmm, oddly enough, a few Frenchies has the same question when watching the WCS UK. Turnabout's fair play and all that. Otolia and the rest of the arrogant masses can't call the UK a shitty amateur scene when there are players like this representing france. Dayshi's even supposed to be among the better ones.
You claim everyone is bad, but we are the arrogant ones
Those players represent nobody but themselves
Lastly, Stephano
Nope, I just called Bsk bad, and Dayshi was playing mediocre. And congrats on Stephano, as he is a professional, I fail to see how it has anything to do with the amateur scene. And yes, they are representing themselves, but they also represent the amateur scene in France, vying for a spot in the WCS for Europe. Those games were hardly decent, and if the WCS UK was snidely dismissed for producing a poor amateur scene, what is this?
From what I seen between the HSC games the french players seems to be higher skill lvl then there english counterparts
Everybody that visits this thread that isn't from France is probably just checking if Stephano won already . But with so many zergs, maybe an upset is possible.
On July 07 2012 04:02 Eshra wrote: I was looking for an info regarding one of the 4 fans playing versus Adel and Stephano. An info I should never have hoped to find there.
don't know if it's what you're looking for, but Psyko/YellowStar was playing. I think he was the only "notable"
I think, with all this very close battle roach , the first one who switched have a big chance to lose the next battle and the game , so , it wasn't that easy, you have to at least put some spine to switch.
On July 07 2012 18:45 ACrow wrote: Can't believe they wouldn't make infestors when they are floating 2.2k and 1.2k gas respectively. Only roaches, so one-dimensonal :-/
Yeah I agree but it's also a situation where they attack all the time and keep losing their armies, every roach counts, so maybe they felt like it would be to big a risk. But they should pull from gas at least yeah. Anyways incredibely back and forth game.
On July 07 2012 04:02 Eshra wrote: I was looking for an info regarding one of the 4 fans playing versus Adel and Stephano. An info I should never have hoped to find there.
don't know if it's what you're looking for, but Psyko/YellowStar was playing. I think he was the only "notable"
yeah psyko/yellowstar is the top lol carry AD, he was one of the top eu player at the late stages of wc3.
On July 07 2012 18:57 AgentChaos wrote: the girl is hot but shes not very good at casting T_T
She also loves eSport - she's likely just standing in because nobody else was available. Usually, she's doing interviews/hosting, not casting and she's been around for all sorts of other stuff, such as WoW Arenas (IEM, etc.) and works at a German eSport agency.
Sure, her game knowledge is terrible (she can shout "a nice fungal going down" whenever more than 5 roaches are fungaled.. that's a start), but if she receives some constructive feedback and positive comments from this, she might be the first proper female caster we're getting ..and I doubt anyone here doesn't enjoy looking at her.
the roach control of of bsk shows really cute multitasking. love how he maintains his concave while sniping drones, queens and infestors with separate roach squads
On July 07 2012 18:57 AgentChaos wrote: the girl is hot but shes not very good at casting T_T
She also loves eSport - she's likely just standing in because nobody else was available. Usually, she's doing interviews/hosting, not casting and she's been around for all sorts of other stuff, such as WoW Arenas (IEM, etc.) and works at a German eSport agency.
Sure, her game knowledge is terrible (she can shout "a nice fungal going down" whenever more than 5 roaches are fungaled.. that's a start), but if she receives some constructive feedback and positive comments from this, she might be the first proper female caster we're getting ..and I doubt anyone here doesn't enjoy looking at her.
She is already better than a lot of other lesser known casters (including half of the french casting line-up for the event).
On July 07 2012 18:57 AgentChaos wrote: the girl is hot but shes not very good at casting T_T
She also loves eSport - she's likely just standing in because nobody else was available. Usually, she's doing interviews/hosting, not casting and she's been around for all sorts of other stuff, such as WoW Arenas (IEM, etc.) and works at a German eSport agency.
Sure, her game knowledge is terrible (she can shout "a nice fungal going down" whenever more than 5 roaches are fungaled.. that's a start), but if she receives some constructive feedback and positive comments from this, she might be the first proper female caster we're getting ..and I doubt anyone here doesn't enjoy looking at her.
I'm do not follow starcraft for a casters "look". I want someone with experience and is actually able to give some professional insight. If i wanted to see a nice looking woman, i'd browse for it. I just quit watching, just because i couldn't stand her blabbing non sense, and quite sometimes she makes snide remarks to co-casters, which even makes her look more bad. This is just my opinion. I'll just wait until HSC starts, for some proper casters.
On July 07 2012 18:57 AgentChaos wrote: the girl is hot but shes not very good at casting T_T
She also loves eSport - she's likely just standing in because nobody else was available. Usually, she's doing interviews/hosting, not casting and she's been around for all sorts of other stuff, such as WoW Arenas (IEM, etc.) and works at a German eSport agency.
Sure, her game knowledge is terrible (she can shout "a nice fungal going down" whenever more than 5 roaches are fungaled.. that's a start), but if she receives some constructive feedback and positive comments from this, she might be the first proper female caster we're getting ..and I doubt anyone here doesn't enjoy looking at her.
I'm do not follow starcraft for a casters "look". I want someone with experience and is actually able to give some professional insight. If i wanted to see a nice looking woman, i'd browse for it. I just quit watching, just because i couldn't stand her blabbing non sense, and quite sometimes she makes snide remarks to co-casters, which even makes her look more bad. This is just my opinion. I'll just wait until HSC starts, for some proper casters.
Hm, her game knowledge isn't any worse than let's say TotalBiscuit's, and between them I'd prefer listening to Zoe any day! Give her some credit, she is really into SC2, just look at her ESV and NASL work, she's also been at most European WSC qualifiers.
She has the weirdest dialect i've ever heard, did she talk like this always? Remember seeing her on some IEM-event, and i'm pretty sure she didn't sound like this, it's soo weird :D
On July 07 2012 20:48 monie wrote: She has the weirdest dialect i've ever heard, did she talk like this always? Remember seeing her on some IEM-event, and i'm pretty sure she didn't sound like this, it's soo weird :D
it's like a french girl who really try to have an english accent but she fails at it and it becomes his own weird accent. But she's cute
On July 07 2012 20:48 monie wrote: She has the weirdest dialect i've ever heard, did she talk like this always? Remember seeing her on some IEM-event, and i'm pretty sure she didn't sound like this, it's soo weird :D
it's like a french girl who really try to have an english accent but she fails at it and it becomes his own weird accent. But she's cute
What's her nationality? Is she French? The accent made me curious too
On July 07 2012 20:48 monie wrote: She has the weirdest dialect i've ever heard, did she talk like this always? Remember seeing her on some IEM-event, and i'm pretty sure she didn't sound like this, it's soo weird :D
it's like a french girl who really try to have an english accent but she fails at it and it becomes his own weird accent. But she's cute
What's her nationality? Is she French? The accent made me curious too
I think she is swiss from russian origins. Gschwind-Penski (her last name) seems more Polish (or Prussian) than Russian to me though. And she lives in Berlin.
It was found to see a transitions to carriers on late PvZ, nice victory for Master, but that zerg, really, as Grubby pointed at least ten times, he lost because he was a victim of the one control group syndrome.
On July 07 2012 18:57 AgentChaos wrote: the girl is hot but shes not very good at casting T_T
She also loves eSport - she's likely just standing in because nobody else was available. Usually, she's doing interviews/hosting, not casting and she's been around for all sorts of other stuff, such as WoW Arenas (IEM, etc.) and works at a German eSport agency.
Sure, her game knowledge is terrible (she can shout "a nice fungal going down" whenever more than 5 roaches are fungaled.. that's a start), but if she receives some constructive feedback and positive comments from this, she might be the first proper female caster we're getting ..and I doubt anyone here doesn't enjoy looking at her.
I'm do not follow starcraft for a casters "look". I want someone with experience and is actually able to give some professional insight. If i wanted to see a nice looking woman, i'd browse for it. I just quit watching, just because i couldn't stand her blabbing non sense, and quite sometimes she makes snide remarks to co-casters, which even makes her look more bad. This is just my opinion. I'll just wait until HSC starts, for some proper casters.
As has been mentioned before in this thread, the fact that she is attractive does not take away from her ability to cast games. Im sorry that for you, the only time you want to see a nice looking woman is on the internet when you are alone...
If you actually knew what you were talking about yourself, you would know that Soe has ample experience with e-sports, the fact that she hasnt been commentating much recently, (mostly hosting and presenting like someone also said), does not mean that her professional insight is not valid. Im sure she works very hard to boost her knowledge as much as possible before each tournament, after all, it is her occupation! Remarks to co-casters, who are also personal friends of hers, does not constitue being "snide", infact the opposite, in England, we call it banter, and it is at all times, appropriate!
In conclusion, I am glad you have "quit watching", as hate only breeds more hate, and your point sir... is invalid.
In my opinion, Soe's casting style is perfect for the current situation, she is fun to listen to, provokes insight from her co-casters by asking suitably loaded questions about gameplay, which then allows Grubby or Kaelaris in this case, to take control and talk mechanics if there is a need for a more in-depth perspective. She follows the game well and injects enthusiasm and excitement... need I go on?
On July 07 2012 18:57 AgentChaos wrote: the girl is hot but shes not very good at casting T_T
She also loves eSport - she's likely just standing in because nobody else was available. Usually, she's doing interviews/hosting, not casting and she's been around for all sorts of other stuff, such as WoW Arenas (IEM, etc.) and works at a German eSport agency.
Sure, her game knowledge is terrible (she can shout "a nice fungal going down" whenever more than 5 roaches are fungaled.. that's a start), but if she receives some constructive feedback and positive comments from this, she might be the first proper female caster we're getting ..and I doubt anyone here doesn't enjoy looking at her.
I'm do not follow starcraft for a casters "look". I want someone with experience and is actually able to give some professional insight. If i wanted to see a nice looking woman, i'd browse for it. I just quit watching, just because i couldn't stand her blabbing non sense, and quite sometimes she makes snide remarks to co-casters, which even makes her look more bad. This is just my opinion. I'll just wait until HSC starts, for some proper casters.
As has been mentioned before in this thread, the fact that she is attractive does not take away from her ability to cast games. Im sorry that for you, the only time you want to see a nice looking woman is on the internet when you are alone...
If you actually knew what you were talking about yourself, you would know that Soe has ample experience with e-sports, the fact that she hasnt been commentating much recently, (mostly hosting and presenting like someone also said), does not mean that her professional insight is not valid. Im sure she works very hard to boost her knowledge as much as possible before each tournament, after all, it is her occupation! Remarks to co-casters, who are also personal friends of hers, does not constitue being "snide", infact the opposite, in England, we call it banter, and it is at all times, appropriate!
In conclusion, I am glad you have "quit watching", as hate only breeds more hate, and your point sir... is invalid.
In my opinion, Soe's casting style is perfect for the current situation, she is fun to listen to, provokes insight from her co-casters by asking suitably loaded questions about gameplay, which then allows Grubby or Kaelaris in this case, to take control and talk mechanics if there is a need for a more in-depth perspective. She follows the game well and injects enthusiasm and excitement... need I go on?
#my2cents
Did you even read my post? Clearly you haven't or you are too thick to comprehend. She does NOT give professional insight, because she does NOT have proper knowledge of the game. I will not reciprocate on the rest of your arguments, since it was my OPINION and therefor it is not INVALID.
Oh and the thing about her appearance. It was a reponse to the post i quoted. So the first thing you directed at me, is totally utter bullshit, and a great way to start a discussion by making it personal.
Jesus, i'm not sure if i am irritated, or just plain sad because i share the earth with great guys like you. (/banter)
Dayshi has been doing fine, but I still think the the odds of a certain zerg taking this 10-0 are less dependant on Dayshi than on said zerg's showing up in a condition to play.
Wow I must say I loooooooove the french casting here, really up-to-date about technical details ! Fascinating to hear the casters analyzing the precise timing of the cyber core and spawning pool and what it does mean :O
On July 08 2012 19:00 HonorZ wrote: Wow I must say I loooooooove the french casting here, really up-to-date about technical details ! Fascinating to hear the casters analyzing the precise timing of the cyber core and spawning pool and what it does mean :O
link to french cast plz?
I wanna see my boy stephano being cast in french^^
On July 08 2012 19:00 HonorZ wrote: Wow I must say I loooooooove the french casting here, really up-to-date about technical details ! Fascinating to hear the casters analyzing the precise timing of the cyber core and spawning pool and what it does mean :O
link to french cast plz?
I wanna see my boy stephano being cast in french^^
This is the link to ESL TV French cast with Anoss and I don't know the second caster !
So Kleenex beats Eel in Round 2, who then works his way through the Loser's Bracket to eventually get his revenge and knock Kleenex out of the Loser's Bracket and eliminate him from the tournament!
On July 08 2012 19:21 revel8 wrote: So Kleenex beats Eel in Round 2, who then works his way through the Loser's Bracket to eventually get his revenge and knock Kleenex out of the Loser's Bracket and eliminate him from the tournament!
On July 08 2012 19:00 HonorZ wrote: Wow I must say I loooooooove the french casting here, really up-to-date about technical details ! Fascinating to hear the casters analyzing the precise timing of the cyber core and spawning pool and what it does mean :O
link to french cast plz?
I wanna see my boy stephano being cast in french^^
This is the link to ESL TV French cast with Anoss and I don't know the second caster !
On July 08 2012 20:06 groms wrote: I feel bad for you if you're watching the english stream
The french stream has been amazing all week and Moman is now on there and he's fkin hilarious
Yeah I'd bet. Feel more sorry for me for the fact that I can't speak French. Missing out on Moman's antics
looooovin the fact that I can understand french ^^
Is Moman one of the guys that cast the IronSquid in French?
Well I know bonjour, "comment tu t'appelle?", je m'appelle, "je suis Kommander, j'habite a Philippines" "merci beacoup! De rien!" and I know how to count 0-10 in French. But that's about it
On July 08 2012 20:52 efren wrote: wow the crowd is actually pretty big for this event
After seeing Iron Squid, I'm not too surprised. The French are passionate about e-sports.
I heard that the French culture looks down on e-sports though. At least according to the liquipedia article on it, they seem to gather a large crowd every time though.
On July 08 2012 20:52 efren wrote: wow the crowd is actually pretty big for this event
After seeing Iron Squid, I'm not too surprised. The French are passionate about e-sports.
I heard that the French culture looks down on e-sports though. At least according to the liquipedia article on it, they seem to gather a large crowd every time though.
Some of your fellow countrymen were upset that I judge the french scene superior to the UK one but having a big following composed of different public (from the occasional viewer to the deeply immersed fan) is a part of SC 2 success in France.
On July 08 2012 20:52 efren wrote: wow the crowd is actually pretty big for this event
After seeing Iron Squid, I'm not too surprised. The French are passionate about e-sports.
I heard that the French culture looks down on e-sports though. At least according to the liquipedia article on it, they seem to gather a large crowd every time though.
Most ppl shit (rightly) on our "intellectuals" and elite opinion, and well, when you're 20ish you don't care about the moaning of some elders :D
Music was Vitalic - second life. Watch the uncensored clip on youtube, it's pretty... sorry, don't have description... weird ? funny ? Something like that.
Also, you can notice Dayshi seems to be way ahead from others players, except stephano who seems to be way ahead dayshi... But, seriously, I'm impressed by Dayshi's macro. He fail at positionning and upgrade, but he seem strong.
On July 08 2012 21:50 Shackadeemus wrote: They shouldn't have even had the tournament, just give default win to Stephano
Make SC2 more popular in each country? Giving players a chance to win some money with their hobby? God I hate trolls, but have to correct them....fml!
Yes, i don't usually follow the french scene, and i was gladly surprised by the overall level. They may not be top european level yet, but the talent pool impressed me. I only heard about Kleenex because he was for a long time a laughing stock in Mill or aAa chat rooms (lots of french fans are dicks), but he played really well, and he certainly deserves his place on a good team. Dayshi is a very good terran, and Eeel surprised me. Master, Censuré, they also were good. It was an excellent tournament, and the idea of organizing it in the Japan expo was good. Even if i live in Paris, i didn't go there because it is far and i don't like weeaboos. But i'm already a fan of SC2. It is way more important to expose new people to this game and try to make SC more popular among casual players and observers.
Also, you can notice Dayshi seems to be way ahead from others players, except stephano who seems to be way ahead dayshi... But, seriously, I'm impressed by Dayshi's macro. He fail at positionning and upgrade, but he seem strong.
Indeed. Haven't been following the French scene at all, but based on the matches vs Stephano and Eeel, Dayshi seems to be pretty decent. Might have been nerves in the Stephano match 1, hopefully he'll be past any possible stage fright for the finals.
Stephano trying too hard to sound like a dick. He's always been a little arrogant, and he certainly can as he's probably the best foreign player, but i have the feeling he's pushing too hard a character now.
On July 08 2012 23:37 legaton wrote: Stephano trying too hard to sound like a dick. He's always been a little arrogant, and he certainly can as he's probably the best foreign player, but i have the feeling he's pushing too hard a character now.
On July 08 2012 23:37 legaton wrote: Stephano trying too hard to sound like a dick. He's always been a little arrogant, and he certainly can as he's probably the best foreign player, but i have the feeling he's pushing too hard a character now.
What did he say?
I don't understand Zeratul's comment because Stephano sounded very relaxed and genuinely glad he won the tournament. He thanked his fans and was proud of the trophy size...
On July 08 2012 23:37 legaton wrote: Stephano trying too hard to sound like a dick. He's always been a little arrogant, and he certainly can as he's probably the best foreign player, but i have the feeling he's pushing too hard a character now.
It cockiness was originally to mask his nervousness when he was younger. But I agree with you, the person seems captive of his own character Stephano which could be due to his huge success and the necessity (real or not) to keep things alright in order to maintain the same state of mind (so important for him).
On July 08 2012 23:37 legaton wrote: Stephano trying too hard to sound like a dick. He's always been a little arrogant, and he certainly can as he's probably the best foreign player, but i have the feeling he's pushing too hard a character now.
It cockiness was originally to mask his nervousness when he was younger. But I agree with you, the person seems captive of his own character Stephano which could be due to his huge success and the necessity (real or not) to keep things alright in order to maintain the same state of mind (so important for him).
I don't see it as arrogance, mostly frankness. He didn't say that his opponents suck, but that it is an easy tournament for him, and this is true. If you talk about the smack talk during game, it is mostly for fun...
It doesn't bother me. He's the first one to admit that someone is better than him, and the first to say that he's (much) better than some opponent. What's wrong with that? His achievements are extensive, he's one of the few foreigners that Koreans fear.
can you people stfu about this cockiness from stephano? starcraft is a 1v1 game. Its like saying Muhammad Ali is a douchebag for being confident against his opponent. As long as you can back up what you say,There is nothing wrong with it .. Its good for publicity.
And inb4 douchebags say Mohammed Ali was not disrespectful . This is some of the quotes from the most respected boxer of all time.
-"Frazier is so ugly that he should donate his face to the US Bureau of Wild Life" -"I am the astronaut of boxing. Joe Louis and Dempsey were just jet pilots. I'm in a world of my own." -"I am the greatest, I said that even before I knew I was" -"I'll beat him so bad he'll need a shoehorn to put his hat on"
Thats just a few arrogant cocky quotes from the greatest boxer of all time. I would not change stephanos attitude for anything.
Except according to KleeneX and Adelscott it isn't really his personality. It's more something he did to appear calm on stage, and once he bite he didn't stop. Whether or not it's good for him is irrelevant to what I said.
Sorry if this was asked before, but can anyone explain why Germany and now France were given direct seeds to World Champ? Is this decided on Blizzard whim, or there is some good explanation behind this? Is outhere somewhere any list of countries which receive direct seeds?
On July 09 2012 04:22 Roman666 wrote: Sorry if this was asked before, but can anyone explain why Germany and now France were given direct seeds to World Champ? Is this decided on Blizzard whim, or there is some good explanation behind this? Is outhere somewhere any list of countries which receive direct seeds?
Yeah. It's kinda lame for seeds to given past a tier of championship.
if you go through the countries etc here, you can see which ones have a direct seed so far i see france, germany, china, russia. i expect kr will have a few?
if you go through the countries etc here, you can see which ones have a direct seed so far i see france, germany, china, russia. i expect kr will have a few?
Does KR need a direct seed? They will dominate Asian tourney anyway. If Blizzard would provide any reasoning on those seeds I would be willing to understand, if not agree on those depending the reason. But to give countries way to jump over one tier of competition undermines the whole idea behind those championships.
On July 09 2012 13:17 opterown wrote: I can understand if they give it to countries with very big name players, but when Sweden doesn't get one, it's a bit arbitrary, isn't it?
A little bit, considering that Sweden has the highest number of pros in the Europe.
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