On August 12 2012 10:09 Capped wrote:
Taeja is undoubtly the best player on liquid atm (or just today / recently even) but saying this is taeja's win is wrong.

Have you not seen him speak to the TL players after every game? he immediately leaves his seat to speak to his team and take advice / criticism from them.

Do you think taeja would have won had he played from game one of the 2nd b09? sure, TL were just "cannon fodder" in your eyes but zenio took a game which everyone bet against, Hero hasnt even played, who is probably their 2nd best bet at winning this thing. They put themselves in the line of fire so taeja could get the much needed rest so he could come out and wreck faces again, his exhaustion is showing with the younghwa game. (epic micro btfw WAOW) how do you think he will fair now? theres a reason he was sent out 4th this time with Hero as backup.

Teamliquid are supporting him every step of the way, wether it be inspirational support, tactics / strategy advice / cannon foddering so he can have more time to recover, whatever. Its a team effort.

In all team games, you have a star player, but they cant win it alone (most of the time) - for example my FPS team has a fucking beast of a sniper, but he cant win it without the rusher calling locations, the team locking locations down, taking players out and allowing him to scout regular locations and take them out too. Alone, he would be located and fucked in the butthole, its much the same for taeja IMO.

lets address this.

He takes advice / criticism from them? It could be or it could just be congrates/generic messages about you can do it etc. that means just not much.Do I think taeja would have won had he played from game on of the 2nd BO9? So far he is showing pretty well that he could of. Hero is their 2nd best bet, but that is pretty much it with maybe zenio/ret who could take a game (which zenio did, but honestly would have rather seen taeja from the start).

Taeja is showing exhaustion when he is displaying great micro still doesn't make much sense when I havn't really seen much exhaustion from korean players like ever or really even just sc2 pros. They should be used to playing a ton of games. Taeja seemed to not even need to recover, and he should have even recovered during all the downtime. There is no way in hell you can compare a FPS to a RTS. I mean a competitive FPS is a team game while RTS is a single game, but this tournament just has a team aspect. How was the rest of the team not just cannon folder when taeja/hero/maybe zenio are only really taking games?

last thing: I hate everyone who is saying that team liquid is the best FOREIGN team. It would be like EG being the best FOREIGN team with only puma/jyp getting results..it just makes no sense for me.

McFeser

United States2458 Posts

August 12 2012 01:20 GMT

#7686

On August 12 2012 10:19 pmp10 wrote:

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So the tournament took so long that blizzard patched the game?

Taeja's profile has been nerfed. And they have removed the ability to micro marines.

Porcelina

United Kingdom3249 Posts

August 12 2012 01:20 GMT

#7687

On August 12 2012 10:19 pmp10 wrote:

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So the tournament took so long that blizzard patched the game?

Ok, that got a smile out of me at least.

INNI

Sweden249 Posts

August 12 2012 01:20 GMT

#7688

2GD: "When an australian speaks to you, you assume he wants to fuck you, put on a bbq and then leave"

Makro

France16890 Posts

August 12 2012 01:21 GMT

#7689

On August 12 2012 10:20 Chunhyang wrote:
greatest Liquid player of all time?

well on starcraft 2 there was huk, but i don't understand why peoples always have to try comparison and debate after each good performance of a player ..

Eufouria

United Kingdom4425 Posts

August 12 2012 01:21 GMT

#7690

On August 12 2012 10:20 Fionn wrote:
KT never got carried THIS hard to a title.

Their Zergs would always show up in the playoffs. Even if Flash was off his game, the Zergs came to life.

They're going to need to change to winners league format at this rate.

Merfyn

United Kingdom945 Posts

August 12 2012 01:21 GMT

#7691

On August 12 2012 10:20 MCDayC wrote:

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talk incessantly about DeMuslim's stream
Which, by the way, is still hilarious.

That Severus Snape story :D

TheMenace

Germany244 Posts

August 12 2012 01:21 GMT

#7692

Wow, how hard can it be to plug in your keyboard and mouste, log into the game and lose vs. Teaja? Its 3:20am here and this break took like 30 minutes? It annoys me to no end. Gotta get up at 9 am. IPL I hate you!

Picklebread

808 Posts

August 12 2012 01:21 GMT

#7693

On August 12 2012 10:20 INNI wrote:
2GD: "When an australian speaks to you, you assume he wants to fuck you, put on a barbayQ and then leave"

Fixed

glzElectromaster

Japan2474 Posts

August 12 2012 01:21 GMT

#7694

I like seeing all-kills, but in order to decide on the best team they really need to implement the Proleague format, just one on one. That way no team will be carried hard. But again, sc2 teams don't have the depth like the BW scene has (or had, atleast up to 2010)