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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7621
On August 12 2012 10:12 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:09 Fusilero wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:08 zefreak wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:08 Torra wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:04 Sc2Null wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:03 Torra wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:01 AgentChaos wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:59 Klipsys wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:58 INNI wrote:
Best player in the world right now. You can't argue against it.



This.

tell me that when he wins back to back gsl

No. There's no question about who's the best player in the world atm.


i'm questioning this? How does winning in teamleague == best player?

That means losira is the second best player in the world..see where the logic falters?

Yeah cuz he's only won team league games...I mean...He definitely didn't win MLG summer arena and ASUS ROG.
He's basically won everything the last month.


Reminds me of MKP, and DRG after that. Hope Taeja can last longer than most 'best in the world' players.

I'll give him one more month before someone else replaces him, I've got my money on IMfirst.

He wins TSL 4 in my Bracket (First). Maybe a little bit to soon but I have the same feeling.

I've somehow got hack winning the whole thing but first beats taeja, dunno why just got a feeling.
Glorious SEA doto
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7622
On August 12 2012 10:11 the p00n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:09 Kznn wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:08 the p00n wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:04 the p00n wrote:
Forgive me but a google and tl.net search (including his fanclub) didn't give me any relevant results... why exactly is mvp in surgery? From what I found it was 'something with his neck' but nobody really elaborates on it.


Anyone?



he has a problem on the wrists for a long time now


Repetitive strain injury? And thanks, I got the impression it was about his neck


a lot of nerve problems that effect hands/wrists originate from the shoulder or neck
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7623
2GD is 2funny ahahaha
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7624
On August 12 2012 10:11 theteam wrote:
wtf another break


To take time out to sort through the thousands of emails demanding a refund.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7625
On August 12 2012 10:11 starception wrote:
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On August 12 2012 10:08 Tppz! wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:05 LighT. wrote:
This Liquid team so strongly resembles my KT team in so many ways
An ultimate weapon:
Flash vs Taeja

KT Zergs (Action, Crazy-hydra, Hoejja) vs LIquid Zerg (Zenio, Sheth, Ret)
the 2nd in command toss:
Stats vs Hero


gosh you are so right :D


Yea, but Flash, Action, Crazy-hydra, Hoejja and Stats aren't as good as any Liquid players so I don't know why you would compare those two teams. If they were to play right now, even with Pro League format, KT would lose to TL.

well he was referring to the BW only time i think
VictorX
Profile Joined April 2011
United States773 Posts
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7626
Hey what's the current score?

I had to go out to eat and I just got back.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 01:15:28
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7627
On August 12 2012 10:11 S_SienZ wrote:
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On August 12 2012 10:09 Capped wrote:
Do you think taeja would have won had he played from game one of the 2nd b09? sure, TL were just "cannon fodder" in your eyes but zenio took a game which everyone bet against, Hero hasnt even played, who is probably their 2nd best bet at winning this thing. They put themselves in the line of fire so taeja could get the much needed rest so he could come out and wreck faces again, his exhaustion is showing with the younghwa game. (epic micro btfw WAOW) how do you think he will fair now? theres a reason he was sent out 4th this time with Hero as backup.

also known as, cannon fodder.


But yet, for a reason. Is my point, yes they couldnt win..but they were there for a reason. (not to imply they werent trying to fucking all kill IM themselves.)


On August 12 2012 10:11 Heavenlee wrote:
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On August 12 2012 10:09 Capped wrote:
Taeja is undoubtly the best player on liquid atm (or just today / recently even) but saying this is taeja's win is wrong.

Have you not seen him speak to the TL players after every game? he immediately leaves his seat to speak to his team and take advice / criticism from them.

Do you think taeja would have won had he played from game one of the 2nd b09? sure, TL were just "cannon fodder" in your eyes but zenio took a game which everyone bet against, Hero hasnt even played, who is probably their 2nd best bet at winning this thing. They put themselves in the line of fire so taeja could get the much needed rest so he could come out and wreck faces again, his exhaustion is showing with the younghwa game. (epic micro btfw WAOW) how do you think he will fair now? theres a reason he was sent out 4th this time with Hero as backup.

Teamliquid are supporting him every step of the way, wether it be inspirational support, tactics / strategy advice / cannon foddering so he can have more time to recover, whatever. Its a team effort.

In all team games, you have a star player, but they cant win it alone (most of the time) - for example my FPS team has a fucking beast of a sniper, but he cant win it without the rusher calling locations, the team locking locations down, taking players out and allowing him to scout regular locations and take them out too. Alone, he would be located and fucked in the butthole, its much the same for taeja IMO.


No, it's pretty much Taeja's win any way you want to put it. This isn't an FPS, it's a 1v1 RTS.


As i said, how would he have done had he played from game 1 of the 2nd Bo9? or had nobody to discuss his worries or take advice with?

Its the same concept, just applied in different ways.
Useless wet fish.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7628
On August 12 2012 10:11 trackts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:08 Killerkrack wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:06 Rammstorm wrote:
Taeja best player in the world? lol ... and more lol ... hardly close MKP, DRG and others.
He is using a mix of MKP(greed) and MMA(drops) style/builds ...

In his current form I'd say he most certainly is either the best or one of the top 2-3 players in the world.


People mix up "best player in the moment" with "most accomprished player". And we can do nothing to change that.


But but.. the best player at the moment isn't the most accomplished, and so isn't the best player in the moment.
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
INNI
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden249 Posts
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7629
Atleast the games have been long to make up for the supersized breaks.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 01:14:54
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7630
On August 12 2012 10:04 shawster wrote:
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On August 12 2012 10:02 Herry wrote:
If i was Boxer, jessica and Cella i would be so pissed. They CREATED him brought him up from nothing now he kills them and single handedly wins the finals for another team.


you're acting like he was a shit player before he found a team.

good players are 80% talent and 20% practice... don't think you can give players talent.



a good lot of 'good' players probably wouldn't think the same thing any longer.
many pros stated that they practiced little or disliked practicing as much as their peers, and many of those same players are now saying that competition is tough these days.
genius switched over to slayers, a team that is well-known to have a strict practice regiment.

i'm just gonna throw it out there. talent only brings you so far, there are many, many great players who let their practice do the speaking. bisu, flash, fantasy... a whole roster of broodwar players, and i'd wager that many of the top SC2 players put a lot into their practice as well---regardless of how much learning/playing ability they have---this is their job after all.

you can be so good at the game that it seems/seemed like you have some sort of obvious talent.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#7631
On August 12 2012 10:12 Chunhyang wrote:
um...there's a lot of downtime. I'm kinda bored.


Listen to DeMuslims stream, it is amazing :D
2GD explaining how he had to turn a girl on by talking like snape!
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
August 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#7632
On August 12 2012 10:09 Kznn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:08 the p00n wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:04 the p00n wrote:
Forgive me but a google and tl.net search (including his fanclub) didn't give me any relevant results... why exactly is mvp in surgery? From what I found it was 'something with his neck' but nobody really elaborates on it.


Anyone?



he has a problem on the wrists for a long time now


How is your health lately?

I thought the reason I couldn’t exert any force on my wrist was because of the wrists themselves. However, I recently got in touch with GGPlay (T/N: the name MVP mentions has two results in TLPD, the other, Jjando, just looks very unlikely to be whom he is talking about). He told me that he had the exact same symptoms that I have. At the time, GGPlay retired and I continued. After GGPlay got out of the army, he had an examination which revealed that the problem wasn’t in the wrist but in the cervical disc. So, I am planning to get my cervical disks examined shortly.

Source http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328864
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 01:14:24
August 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#7633
On August 12 2012 10:11 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:08 the p00n wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:04 the p00n wrote:
Forgive me but a google and tl.net search (including his fanclub) didn't give me any relevant results... why exactly is mvp in surgery? From what I found it was 'something with his neck' but nobody really elaborates on it.


Anyone?


Uhhh I remember someone linking to a story about it once upon a time. Think it was a leveltory article. Will try find it for you


Quoting myself with the answer: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328864

How is your health lately?

I thought the reason I couldn’t exert any force on my wrist was because of the wrists themselves. However, I recently got in touch with GGPlay (T/N: the name MVP mentions has two results in TLPD, the other, Jjando, just looks very unlikely to be whom he is talking about). He told me that he had the exact same symptoms that I have. At the time, GGPlay retired and I continued. After GGPlay got out of the army, he had an examination which revealed that the problem wasn’t in the wrist but in the cervical disc. So, I am planning to get my cervical disks examined shortly.


EDIT: Haha beaten to the pinch!
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
August 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#7634
Taeja broke bnet

jk

but its good for taeja he gets to rest some more!
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#7635
Wow I thought I was gone for a long time and was wondering whether it would end before I got back with SC2 games being shorter on average and all, but I guess the long downtimes stretched it out
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 01:14:20
August 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#7636
On August 12 2012 10:13 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:11 S_SienZ wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:09 Capped wrote:
Do you think taeja would have won had he played from game one of the 2nd b09? sure, TL were just "cannon fodder" in your eyes but zenio took a game which everyone bet against, Hero hasnt even played, who is probably their 2nd best bet at winning this thing. They put themselves in the line of fire so taeja could get the much needed rest so he could come out and wreck faces again, his exhaustion is showing with the younghwa game. (epic micro btfw WAOW) how do you think he will fair now? theres a reason he was sent out 4th this time with Hero as backup.

also known as, cannon fodder.


But yet, for a reason. Is my point, yes they couldnt win..but they were there for a reason. (not to imply they werent trying to fucking all kill IM themselves.)


Cannon fodder does tend to have a reason.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
August 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#7637
If TaeJa can win the next GSL (which will be at IPL5), he will forever remembered in esports history. If he can keep the momentum, he'll be near the same level of legendary as iloveoov (ofcourse not at the level, but close enough).

If he can't, then he's another MarineKing -.- (not to take anything away from MKP, he's just MKP...you know what I mean)
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#7638
thats like what?

8 hours now?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Torra
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway469 Posts
August 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#7639
Why are people even trying to discuss the fact that Taeja is the best player in the world right now.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32751 Posts
August 12 2012 01:14 GMT
#7640
On August 12 2012 10:12 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:10 SwizzY wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:07 starception wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:04 Fionn wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:03 FabledIntegral wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:02 Pandain wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:00 Mohdoo wrote:
Is anyone still saying Taeja isn't the best player in the world?


I think DongRaeGu can challenge him.

Has the best macro on the planet with the play of a champion. I think DRG is the only one who could challenge Taeja.

Edit: Note I'm not sure who would win


At the moment however, DRG has been performing awful. I think he's lost his last 5 important matches in a row?


Lost to Hero at IPL Car Show.
Lost to MC in GSL Semifinals.
Lost to Leenock in GSTL Semifinals.
Lost to Polt in WCG Group Finals.
Lost to Creator in WCS Korea WR1.


Because Taeja is better than Polt and Polt beat DRG, Taeja would beat DRG.


Yeah, that's the obvious conclusion from everything that has been quoted/stated. Fionn is stating that DRG is slumping like hell lately and has been playing like shit, citing his notable losses.


I still don't believe that a authentic slump in ZvP carries on to his ZvT. So much more of ZvP is about reaction and reacting to your opponets builds, while ZvT you can force yourself into what you want.

I think DRG could take down Taejaa, regardless of his zvp results.

retreats into the MVP_DRG fanclub realm


It's mostly a matter of consistency, and DRG has been looking very weak recently. As stated before, he lost to Polt 2-0, so his ZvT at the highest level is weak. TaeJa is looking like the better player than Polt, so it is a reasonable inference to say that TaeJa would beat DRG.
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